First Foxconn-built BlackBerry is codenamed "Jakarta" - possibly out in April

By Kevin Michaluk on 20 Dec 2013 08:17 am EST
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That's the word from BlackBerry CEO John Chen on this morning's BlackBerry earnings call.

Codenamed "Jakarta", it's said to be a low-cost BlackBerry that will feature 3G, is based on BB10 and will target Indonesia first. He pointed to March and more likely April as the launch timeframe.

So much for no forward looking statements on earnings calls. I like this guy! Leak it before CrackBerry does. Smart. :)

156 comments

BB10user07

Awesome

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anon5129477

hmmmmmmmmm Those markets need our phones!!!

IJKBB10

Kevin replace Mr Heins pic under arm chair ceo in the forums with this articles pic of John Chen, thanks :)

redsaph

I've been waiting for that to happen!

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PineappleUnderTheSea

Well....not really. Motorola for years has farmed out phone design and assembly to companies like Compal or Flextronics, and that got them nowhere in terms of market share. Hopefully these BB devices will be dirt cheap so they can move lots of units.

BK_NY_RAY

Awesome indeed. But let's hope its actually low cost unlike the Q5 which is not. And it better come out in the US or at least let te US customers order them online or something. Actually low cost I say!

Sergeant_Im

in some countries, the Q5 is actually cheaper than a Curve

FrankDLR1972

Yeah, let's get going with this. Keep moving.

BBM Channel: The Group Ride C00055B7C

Tariq Nasir

Stock up 3 percent. Strange! I predicted they would take a beating if they didn't meet expectations.

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birdman_38

It's all in the presentation. It's a good presentation.

jordandrews90

But will it run BB10!?

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ERFrizki

low-cost usually BlackBerry OS 7. since BBOS still pretty popular here and enterprises here still using BES instead of BES10 due to various reasons.

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Bla1ze

"Codenamed "Jakarta", it's said to be a low-cost BlackBerry that will feature 3G, is based on BB10 and will target Indonesia first."

sickyute

Lol - beat me to it

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jordandrews90

lol yeah I just heard that and came back to post but - to slow!

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jordandrews90

Lol oh it does say I there, so much news to read!

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TrueKulcha

Thanks for clarifying too.. I had to read three times to make sure what I saw was right

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scalemaster34

Can you build a truly low cost Dual Core 2GB Ram devices?

wincyUt

Don't you think that Foxconn knows what they are doing? Do you think they wouldn't have done a feasibility study prior to embarking on this project?

chrizrun30

Oh yeah!
This is what i'm waiting for ;)

ERFrizki

my head is pounding while reading all the news.
I hope this will mark bb10 hype among indonesians next year!
*gotta start promote "no battery pulls necessary" from now

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arvind1983

Thats fantastic if its based BB10. I am seeing a few Z10s in Indonesia recently.

chrizrun30

By seeing Foxconn currently built their manufacture plant in Indonesia, I don't think it's an legacy OS, since 9720 is the latest OS 7 device.

ERFrizki

yeah, I (admit) did speed read last 4 news on crackberry. lol

lesson learned.
J series then?

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sickyute

Didn't read the post did you?

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Elite1

So the "J Series"? Sure, why not!

dphjeff

Hopefully its not going to be J series. I can hear the haters now BlackBerry makes a cheap device and J stands for junk.

Elite1

Meh. There's a derogatory word that starts with pretty much every letter.

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redsaph

True, like C for cheap.

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ERFrizki

pun intended? lol

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dphjeff

There is no sense in making it easy for them. :)

anon5387384

Think positive. Think about the lovers. We say J for Joy

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BBUniq01

Maybe now I can afford one for my kids.

BB Uniq BB Bold -Z10

sianto

Yeah, like 200$ is too expensive!

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Boy Ertanto

I'm from Indonesia, i sure what does he has thought. I love his mindset

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Jerale Hoard

???? I understand the last sentence

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SirJes

Ur warming up chen, u are

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ibpluto

Yes, the force is strong with this one.....

CB10'n it via da Z

TrueKulcha

You know eh.. I can see the outline of a shoreline in the distance. We Will Make It!

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sayf777

Ask him for some more info on the specs, Kevin.

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chrisstlaurent

All Hail Chen!

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vibhor

I am becoming a fan of this guy.... he is damn smart...

The best phone in the world

goku_vegeta

Sounds like those smaller looking Z10 leaks turned out to be accurate.

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NickNick43

Phones are usually A year and 1/2 between design and development and release on a carrier . How is this phone going to do all of that in three months?

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birdman_38

Perhaps they started working on this deal quite a while ago.

milo53

They did, Thor started this project a while back.

JWWDUKE

I'm sure they didn't just decide this morning to come out with this phone.

Z10 10.2.1.1055

Prem WatsApp

I guess it's the Z5 in a modified version that never saw the light.

See, there were initially 6 devices announced for 2013, as far as I am aware.
Fill in the gaps: *Z5*, Z10, Z30 / Q5, Q10, *Q30*.

John Chen talks "very high end devices", one is missing and I know I want it.. Wooohooo!

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

Jerale Hoard

"Q30" was never said to be the 6th device it was the "T10" which was supposedly a tablet peripheral. Q30 wasn't talked about until Chen took over office.

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Prem WatsApp

Thanks for filling in my gaps and the info about the T10, but how could Q10 have "moved to mid-tier", if there was nothing in the pipeline?

Not trying to be a smartie, just curious and open for correction. I value new info more than "being right". Appreciated! :-)

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

bbry4life

This morning Chen said he held the device in his hand and it was running BB10.
So it's pretty far along in terms of R&D, design, specs, parts. Foxconn will need to negotiate and source the parts and train the people on the assembly lines, and fulfil the supply chain. BlackBerry will need to engage the carriers, tweak the OS, and market the device. It's quite realistic that it will launch on time and then be available within a couple of weeks after launch with Foxconn's help.

ramaputra

Jakarta? no hope for indonesia market. Since bbm went cross platform, teens prefer to buy android instead of BB. maybe another story if next BB integrated with playstore.

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RedxD

Direct Installing apks and BB10>Android.

wincyUt

They only preferred Android phones because they were cheaper. Foxconn will produce cheaper phones.

cwalt2166

don't under estimate the Android ecosystem

arvind1983

BlackBerry craze is still there in Indonesia. The problem is a lot of people are not aware of BB10 phones. I would blame it on the pathetic marketing. Teens these days are buying Android phones cause its affordable and has ALL APPS but they still love the BlackBerry brand. If BB can't sell phones in Indonesia then they can forget selling phones altogether.

CrackFachry

That is so very true. BB10 was quite successful here in Indonesia. The Z10 were sold out in many stores when it first launched here.
But then... BBM going cross platformed have made a substantial amount of users switched to Android due to the lower priced phones and apps.
The apps are catching up, so there's hope that Jakarta (if being priced right) will be quite successful. I do hope it will be priced as low (if not lower) than the Lumia 520.

farskija

March, April, could be May. Let's say "Spring" 2014...

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tvst28

Apple has been pretty strict with deadlines and Foxconn has delivered well for them for years now. If they bring the same to the table with BlackBerry (and of course assuming BB meets its own software deadlines), then BlackBerry's famous "Coming Soon" might start meaning something.

parabola

This sounds like the end of high-end phones in other markets. I'm also wary about how much BB10 innovation there will be if it's only going to be used in these low-end phones. I'm extremely happy with my Z30, but I'm more convinced this will be the last BB device in mature markets.

Puz_zled

Hope you are.....not right.

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wincyUt

No it will not be the end of BB "highend" devices. Did you listen to Earnings Call this morning? If NO, go and listen to it.

parabola

Yes, I did. Please direct me to any quotes that discussed the future of new, high end BB10 devices. Thanks.

sianto

15:12. "The device group is gonna continue to build out best of class technology in software, aswell as some very high end phones, and our designers are already working on that. So this will give us more pipeline of te phones, going foward, with minimum exposure as I said, for finanicial."
This gives me hope for the future
Please release a Z50!

LopeZ10

I guess that he read the open letter that Brian Blair sent him

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Spades1234

So Z30 is the last phone made my BlackBerry likely.

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drewread

BlackBerry has always designed the phones, very few are actually made by 'BlackBerry'... most of the manufacturing is outsourced. ;)

Waterloo builds when more supply is required and also builds development devices. Generally they are made in Mexico...

walt63

Are you eluding to last hardware made by BBRY. If so, Im okay with the last hardware by BBRY. In reality, what's inside really counts.

Think about it....

The iPhone and Galaxy are nice looking devices, but you don't really see that because one may have a case on it. I know they're are gold iPhones out there, but I've yet to actually see one in public use. I know its an iPhone but dont know if its gold.

So...as long as I can get the BBRY QNX OS experience, I'm okay.

Kobe Barksdale

I'm happy for this news, but would hope for a Feb - March release not just launch, oh well I believe in #BlackBerryChen

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dnav5

Conference call mention it will be BB10

RedFoxOne

Wow! I'm surprised Chen recognizes the importance of Indonesian market right away. But many people swtiched to Android already..

Prem WatsApp

For lack of a better option, ...

I am convinced a lot of Indonesiens will be happy to wield a competitive Berry again and dump the "landfill droids" (pardon the pun).

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

Prem WatsApp

* Indonesians

(installed second language auto-correct got me there)

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

RedFoxOne

If the price is right, BlackBerry could still make a return and i hope they could. BB10 and affordable, way to go!

Atmarix

Ok chechen, where is our high end phones?
We Americans demand more even if we can't afforr

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Atmarix

"Even if we can't afford it" is what I meant to say lol

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timmy t

Great. Now suicidal employees will be tied to BlackBerry too.

reddude3000

I hope they will not bring those here. I will never own a Foxconn-made Blackberry. :(

wincyUt

You need not worry about that. :) BlackBerry will have different phones for this market.

al750n

Finally..Proud to be Indonesian..The truth of BlackBerry Nation..

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anon5781939

It wud be like a low budget BB10 fone running 10.2.1.XXXX out of the box...with all the advantages of downloading androids apps easily...seems legit! win-win situation..sales wud be good for sure..indonesia is a right place for the start..

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usman_hidayat19

yess Jakarta!

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riyanast

Yay my country! Where everybody still using bb...legacy

R Field

Where are the people who said no more hardware would be made and were so dead set that none was being made despite proof?

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m1kr0

They will find something to put a negative spin on it, as usual.

GoJaysGo

You can't base your entire business on Indonesia. Seems like they are the only country that wants a BB device... BB7 device that is...

Bishkin

Look what happened when they waited for the customers to come to them ....

geHuC

Something along the lines of the Moto G doesn't sound all that bad to be fair. Considering how well the hardware runs Android it should have no problems with bb10 ~ the same as the s4 z10 and even better than the OMAP z10.

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chindoberry

I love you, John Chen!
Shout out from a proud #Jakartan #Indonesian

Zwiped up from my AndroBerry 30

BBPandy

Chen said that he has already held the device in his hand! (During the Q&A)

Bishkin

Take a back seat Zs and Qs, the next few years will be the Js. And the Js shall be the budget phones to flood the market and bring home the bacon for the next few years and then the Zs and Qs will rise once more .... just my 2 cents ....

Prem WatsApp

Hope I can buy a couple as gifts for my friends and relatives (BBM, yeah) and they are available somehow in the developed world (Europe, Australia, ...)

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

Prem WatsApp

Some are still on flippin ' flip-phones, gotta get them off those...

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

riyanast

Btw, maybe berryleaks should invite mr chen to join in lol

Notcho

Foxconn in China? I don't support slave labour. #DeathByChina

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Bsbudd

Yet, you are holding a blackberry device which is probably manufactured, assembled in Mexico where the average annual income is lower than China.

Notcho

the average salary for Mexican workers was $2.10 per hour in 2011, up 19 percent from $1.72 in 2001. By comparison, the average wage in China swelled during those years to $1.63 per hour in 2011 from 35 cents per hour in 2001.

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Bsbudd

Not sure where you get your numbers from.
As per January 2013
China hourly minimum wage : $1.19 anual income of $2,472
Mexico hourly minimum wage: $0.58 anual income of $1,454

Before you make statements like above. Have a look where all the components inside your blackberry come from.

arvind1983

This going to be built by Foxconn in Indonesia. Hopefully Foxconn wont be cruel to Indonesian brothers.

walcolm

i just hope low end Jakarta will not be so low end in performance that it wont be able to compete with similarly priced androids...i'd prefer low end BB that sits at the top of the performance table when compared to androids of similar pricing

Jeandry Brito

Plus one. Thank you my friend!

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arvind1983

price it similar to Moto G and spec it better.

mhhH4RI

Brilliant moves,Chen. With more than 5m users in Indonesia (most legacy devices), Blackberry needs to release cheaper BB10 device to push them to switch their legacy device to BB10 device. It should be $150 - $200 to compete with local / Chinese ICS / Jelly bean Android devices with BBM app pre-loaded on them.

chrizrun30

It will be great if the price for the first release are around $150 - $200, I'm sure the legacy users will trade their devices. It will makes a competition with Lumia 520/620 which have been sell quite well.

BagusTiko

Chen, listen to them. They made good point on Indonesian market.

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drkpitt

It will be key to know what they consider a low cost phone. At this time the Q5 and even the magnificent Z10 are basically entry level devices and could wind up selling for almost nothing already. Not sure how a 3G phone could be cheaper than almost nothing but my guess is $50 off contract. I think 3G based phones will just hurt the brand so please keep them out of the US and other developed markets or else people will continue to think of BlackBerry as junk devices.

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chrizrun30

I guess you don't understand the importance of emerging market like Indonesia which still highly sensitive with price.

chrizrun30

In Indonesia, Q5 are $350-400 & Z10 $400-450 off contract and it still considered as high priced for those legacy device users,

Prem WatsApp

Nokia Lumia 520/620/720 are 3G, and not exactly junk devices. Also, Samsung is still selling $150 3G Gingerbreads here in Australia, and these are definitely junk (landfill Android) . 3G won't be too much of an issue in my opinion.

I had the choice, either up to 1GB 4G data per day, or unlimited 3G/HSDPA+, so I went for 3G. Might change, depending on how my usage pattern and the market evolve.

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

Siya10

Jakarta... C10?

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Siya10

JOHN CHEN!!!! YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!

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BB10dude

I sort of hope they put a home button on it

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Prem WatsApp

Scrap that. Keep BB10 pure!

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

masterful

LOL why home button?

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Pravin1

Q30! Show yourself!

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LopeZ10

So sad. I'm waiting for a high/mid tier phone less than 5" to upgrade from my z10. I love my phone but 8 months already with it. TOO MUCH

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Siya10

8 months... wow.. are u f*ing kidding me?

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Prem WatsApp

CrackBerry addicted, what can you say...

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

TZRick

I saw an article just yesterday where the author was pushing for blackberry to target low-end in emerging markets. Interesting that Chen announced today.

I agree...they need people to adopt the platform. Numbers talk. Customers aren't investing only in a phone, or even a platform. They are investing in the ecosystem and that is where Blackberry currently falls short.

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Carjackd

I really like Chen, straight up to the point, and appears honest. Not like the smoke and mirrors of TH. I'm certainly not hoping on the "Chen will be the savior of this company bandwagon" like many were with TH, but he has a solid, down to earth approach and I can't wait to see what else he has up his sleave. However, at this point he is still in a interim position. So hopefully he is around long enough to make this company turn. It's great to see some positive news over the last 3 days.

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milo53

I agree, like the guy, but will give it some time before I join the premature-ridiculous love fest going on here.

24 months ago 14.2m BB devices sold, and the sky was falling. 1.1m BB10 sold this quarter and orgasms all around....

Yes, ameteur hour is over regarding the CEO and his recent hires, it seems. BOD was done playing around, they finally decided to bring in the Yanks to save the day, of course.

christoph77

C0038297E Quote of the Day! Pls follow! :)

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christoph77

C0038297E Quote of the Day

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wincyUt

John Chen is simply on the ball!!

blackseed1

Disappointing to hear that. I'm against Foxconn policy in their treatment of their employees. One of the reasons why I don't support Apple and Samsung.

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Bikram Kochar

Great news.. plz bring more n more apps..

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littlesunda

What we need is Blackberry build the server here in Indonesia, or anything to make better and faster services. Blackberry mostly use for business conversation by small business enterpreneur (through BBM). Business market is Blackberry strongest, so please focused on that servises

BlackberryCanada

Go BlackBerry.

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Youssef

GET RID OF JOHNCHEN.

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Prem WatsApp

Who do you suggest BlackBerry hire?

My name is Prem, I'm using BBM ... from my QuZe10 ...whatarhyme...

Youssef

KEEP BLACKBERRY EXLUSIVE TO BLACKBERRY DEVICES AND OS.

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Eduardo S

Hmmmmm considering buying a Q10 or this, for a secondary device and personal use only?

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mklasse

Well in my point of view this is a little too late. Most bb users in Indonesia was "loyal" to blackberry brand because of BBM. Now that BBM is out on iOS and android, blackberry prices have been dropping significantly. Blackberry Z10 now can be had brand new, unlocked, and unsubsidized for less than $300. More than half the price since it has been released here last March. No blackberry handsets before in Indonesia's market history has been "price-corrected" that low in just 9 months after the official launch. Usually the price only corrected 15-25% tops within a year after release. So now if this new codenamed Jakarta handset released (with a supposedly lower spec than z10) with a price tag of more than $300 unsubsidized, then bb can just forget about it. So i guess we'll see

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MegaMoneyMan

Chen does have a realistic plan that investors connect with - it's as simple as that. It sure remains to be seen how things will pan out in the real sense, but I'm liking it so far!

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VLVL

The thing i also see is that it is a a good start of having third party to build the device and running our OS. A licensing model to go. I am so happy to see this movement :-)

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crohns

This is great news!!!! It may put to rest some of the rumors of them no longer releasing new hardware!

Bacon Munchers

So, with this Jakarta 'C' class touch phone being launched possibly in April, what do us in the East get? I am presuming that we will see a new phone, as that is a looong time in the world of mobile.

Bacon Munchers

Duh! Make that "us in the West"....

Wilsonia Goldens

This is a licensing agreement so no cost to Blackberry. Blackberry gets a margin (license fee) from each phone sold. No cost to Blackberry. Great deal. I am glad that I did not sell my shares. I might break even yet!

ILUMINATIUNDEAD

I'd f Chen

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Speedygi

Excited as heck over this...

zeevaluateur

Come on guys! Don't you see the writing on the wall?

BlackBerry is doomed...and Chen is only the next millionnaire to be in a list of CEOs to take control for a time.

Its Nortel all over again.....Number one IN THE WORLD then a bunch of saviors all jumping ship with a golden parachute until the stock is worth close to nothing then bankrupcy and one major shareolder that gets away with the "tought to value but very valuable" portfolio of parents while all the reste swallow's the big pill.

My guess....Fairfax will be the Lucky winner this time.

Debian BB Holic

Cool..should be better than Q5..

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zeevaluateur

Don't get me wrong....I still believe bb10 to be THE Best os on the marketing right now.

As Nortel was years ahead of Its competition when it falled but, as long as the stock market will be a playground for nerds thinking they will be part of the Lucky,the few,the crème de la crème of finance while the one percent continues to play muppets with them...great compagnies will disapear for good in the hands of the real experts.

zeevaluateur

Elop took over a company with 68% market dominance of the mobile phone...an undisputed reputation for building undestroyable phones, an OS perfectly adaptable to smart phones and stable as a rock and turned it into a loosing proposition within a year...scrapped the os...and turned it into a Microsoft division.
Now...he might become the next Microsoft boss....

I wonder how much he was personnally worth before taking over Nokia....and how much he is worth now. My guess is......probably more than T.H. wich is not bad...not bad at all.

Arno Pan

Is that Foxconn version just another Q5 but down played? Oh well, it'll be interesting to see! :)

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Hai Binh LE

Very wise strategy! I have a confidence that BB will be back in the dominant position very soon

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whatsever

Jakarta is Kopi,because Kopi is coffee in Indonesia but foxconn is cheaper so they chance the name in Jakarta.

Will be a cheap phone for indonesia and India.

They just chancel it because mexico/canda is more expensive to produce.

PowrrrPlay

I wonder if the gesture bar will say Blackberry or Foxconn! LoL