Now this is why I never go to bed... 2:30am and master Verizon tipster Kevin Byrne just posted in the CrackBerry Forums final word on what Verizon's BlackBerry Storm will be packing come its official release in a post titled "Final post for a While." No BS... here are the deets straight from Kev:
- EVDO Rev A: (1900/800 MHz)
- GSM/GPRS/EDGE: (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
- UTMS/HSDPA/HSUPA: 2100MHZ
- WiFi: None
- Size: 112.52 x 62.2 x 13.95 mm
- Screen 3.25 " HVGA+ 480x360 Multi-touch, Gesture Touch
- Battery: 1400mAh (removable! take that iPhone!)
- Memory: 1GB flash for media/ 192 meg ram
- Camera: 3.2 MP camera, vanity mirror,
no Auto-flash (darn printers!)
- Audio: 3.5mm jack, bluetooth stereo, Rhapsody OTA purchase and tethered subscription capable
- Browser: Every feature the IPhone safari webkit has, minus support for tabs. No flash support.
And with a stamp of tipster authority, Kevin signs off with this... "This has been a wild ride. I can't wait to talk to you all again soon. Until November rolls around, I bid you all adieu."
So. What are everybody's thoughts here? Loving it? Wanting more? Buying it no matter what?! Sound off in the comments or in the forums!
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I'm still gonna buy it, but I'm a little disappointed that RIM didn't really try to blow the iphone out of the water.
No wifi, no camera flash, no flash support, no tabbed browsing. Seems like if they included these details there wouldn't be anything for people(cough...bgr...cough) to complain about. None of them are a deal breaker for me, but they would be nice. Still can't wait for it to come out and check out the app store too. Hopefully we'll be able to harass customer service into orders the end of October.
I told you all RIM was going to blow this one too when it coes to internal flash memory. 192MB. WTF RIM? Are you fracking retarded!?!?!?!?
I'm waiting for the HTC Touch HD to make its way to CDMA. Frack RIM and their half**ed hardware.
it has 1 GB internal flash memory, with 8 GB MicroSD card in box AND upgradeable to 16 GB.
The reason this phone should have wifi is the following.
You can make free international phone calls using the Wifi feature (UMA). That's why this feature is a must on all blackberry's. Knowing Verizon they want you to have a crazy data plan. It's wack. When I travel overseas my blackberry is amazing because I can turn off my mobile network and talk on wifi all day and it wont cost me a dime. Im sticking with tmobile. fuck that!
P.S.-They need to remake the phone with wifi and put Skype on it as well. Now thats a smart phone!
can you tell me how you turn off the mobile network and what you use when you connect to wifi to make free overseas calls? i'm an idiot at this stuff so sorry if i really sound like an idiot. thanks
No WiFi or camera flash make this a deal breaker in my opinion.
oh wow. are you guys kidding me?? What verizon has to offer theres no need for wifi. Putting wifi with this kinda device would actually lessen it than it already is. you dont stay home all do you??
Go away Verizon shill, nothing beats WiFi for connectivity speed. And newsflash from the year 2000, you can find WiFi in probably something like 90% of business offices.
Remember as with iPhone you can switch off the wifi when you don't need it and save power.
I think they want you to spend more money on cellular data.
You guys are hopeless. I've got good money that VZW will deploy an EVDO revA femtocell unit before the end of the year. Wi-Fi is NOT A MOBILE PHONE TECHNOLOGY because it eats up too much battery power. EVDO is the way to go wireless with data until LTE pops up.
I lilke haing WIFI for connectability. I have low sigal strength at my home. I connect on WIFI (UMA) to ensure i dont miss calls. Also data speed is faster.
I agree that if this doesnt have wifi, it is a 2nd rate device. This is a deal breaker for me.
you don't need wifi with verizon! the network will give you good signal strength anywhere
not really. I have verizon and i live about 10 minutes outside of philadelphia in a pretty well populated area and my service sucks. I have to be outside or next to a window to get service if i want it.
No cell phone provider can guaruntee service indoors.
you will not find ANY service provider that will say "you will have service in your home or any other structured area"....it is not possble, trees blooming can block with tower signals......think about what CELLULAR service actually is....greedy being
receiving calls has nothing to do with wifi... voice is on a whole other network. your calls arent going to come through wifi. period. if anything, your connection to wifi will be temporarily disabled while on a voice call, and you're chances of missing calls are raised when you have wifi connected.
I'm sorry to hear there will be no Wi-Fi on this phone. No camera flash too? Well, the iPhone killer lacks of ammo. The same screen resolution as the javelin? For a bigger size? Not so crispy then...
good point though with the HSUPA... In my personnal match between the Javelin and the Storm, the Javelin just took the 1st place (for now)
Isn't the storm supposed to be Verizon's first 4G phone? In that case you don't need wifi because the 4G network is capable of speeds up to 5mbps!
Seriously, all they had to do was take the handful of major complaints people had about the iphone 3G, fix them, and they would have the best touch scren phone on the market. It seems like they just made a phone to compete rather than conquer. No flash? No wi-fi? I am really disappointed. I hope there is some error in this specs report.
Ok really.... the one thing (for me at least) that I truly love about iPhone is having multiple instantiations of the browser at once...! Come on BB, let's make the grade (or do they think that people always want to surf one page at a time?? Grrrrrr....
i thought crucial hinted at flash support
well I was kind of interested until I noticed the lack of wifi.
I personally don't mind not having wifi, since there is no way to have the storm without a data plan anyway and feel that the ev-do is fast. However, no flash is just plain stupid to me. Can't fit an l.e.d in there? Also, as many have said before, I like to surf multiple pages at a time.
is this true? you must buy a data plan for the storm? or can u get it without one
You don't need a data plan. The verizon people tell you you need one, but when you tell them that's BS, they will (in every case I've experienced) disable the data connection (so you don't accidentally open the browser and charge yourself obscene amounts of money), but leave everything else on. If you did this and the phone was capable of WiFi, the data streaming works over WiFi without a costly data plan.
on verizon wireless, data plans for BB are not optional. Per an agreement between BB and Verizon Wireless, customers have to have a data plan. Optional data plans only apply to PDA/Smartphone devices.
They actually do require a data plan with Blackberry devices now. There's no way around it. Trust me....i know :)
It isn't a deal breaker for me at all. I am very excited. I'm mildly upset about not having WiFi. It is really handy to have on international trips when your data plan doesn't work or is very expensive. Other than that who cares? You have a data plan pretty much everywhere in the States. I can't wait for this phone!
I was so excited about this phone, but not anymore. I think the only thing good about this phone is the screen quality. I guess its a good thing, I was going to pay full retail for this since I just got my Curve back in may, but my Curve will have to do for now
Here is my comparison of the Blackberry vs the iPhone.
iPhone has a bigger screen, but only by a quarter inch.
Blackerry's screen has slightly better resolution - 480x360 vs 480x320
Blackberry's camera is a hell of a lot better - 3.2mp vs 2.0mp
Neither has flash (for the camera)
Processor speed - no idea
Apple's browser has tabs, Blackberry doesn't.
Apple has wi-fi, Blackberry does not.
Blackberry has a removable battery and the iPhone does not.
Unknowns - supported media formats
- typing interface
Not very happy there is no wi-fi, but I probaby will use the camera much more. Also, carrying around a Blackberry is much more professional looking than an iPhone.
On a tangent. Deciding between the Storm and Javelin/Bold comes down to how you are going to use the phone. If you do a lot of emailing then the Javelin/Bold is the way to go but if you want the media features then it's the Storm. I would also say if you review a lot of word documents or spreadsheets, then the extra screen size on the Storm is appealing
No Wifi, No Flash , No Tab ...... Is that a nokia 3200 from 90's???
i am so disapointed
Wifi is very usefull when you are travelling all around the worl like me ... even when i m in the US don t wanna pay 200 euros bills
BB is for business people so what are they doing ... every smartphone have wifi
Hope my provider will ask for Wifi in it
No wi-fi, until the 9520 comes out. It's gotta happen, one day...
Come on, no WiFi? WiFi is a must for me and my little/no coverage of Verizon at home. I'm super disappointed.
check my rant at: http://blog.javadevelop.com/?p=865
Good Going RIM, offer no flash, well hell add no MMS messaging and you’ll have yourself a I-Phone! Lame...
I love that its only a little bigger than the curve! BUT Does any one know how heavy this is going to be?
Hey guys ... hopefully our are better than yours
but still no Wifi
7.2 mbps HSDPA/UMTS (2100/1900/850 MHz)
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
1GB of memory, 192MB RAM
1400 mAhr battery. Standby time: 528 hours
MicroUSB port
MicroSD and MicroSDHC expandable up to 8GB
3.2 megapixel camera, flash, 2.5x digital zoom, auto focus, and image stabilization
Video capture. Normal mode (480×320) and MMS mode (176×144)
Assisted GPS - Enhanced version of GPS that performs at a faster speed
Is it me or do the specs of the Euro Storm better than the u.s version.
I was about to hop the fence on this one. I was actually warming up to it. I will miss the wifi when I'm @ home or at a hotel or at an airport. Trust me you need alternatives. I flew into DFW last year for a wedding. Got off the plane and Verizon was down in North Texas. I was without a device for 3 days. If it would have had wifi I could have hopped on the airport wifi send a few emails, maybe a little voip. Who knows, but both my devices were Verizon so I was dead in the water. Actually had to use a pay phone (eww). So leaving off wifi is a big deal. But only when you really really need it. That being said, maybe having a flash is good, but then again, when do you need flash and is it going to be more than just a flashlight than an actual flash. The only time I need flash is probably in a dark night club, or outside @ night. To be honest I think most professional photographers prefer when they don't have to use flash. They like the natural light.
Other than that it's a nice looking device. I think they will still come out with better version and this first gen version will not kill anything or wound anything, but it might leave a bit of a whelp. Kind of like getting bit by a wiener dog, doesn't really break the skin but still annoying as hell.
I now have to wait for android and the touch diamond to meet.
They already did in HTC's G1 for T-Mobile. Only it has a slide out qwerty keyboard and internal compass. G1 looks much better than this or Touch Diamond. I just wish it were released for Verizon.
I know Kevin Brynes has always done us right with the scoop he has brought us. But I just don't know what to think anymore. I guess it just becomes a waiting game for 30 days. I am really surprised at the spec differences between the US and Euro.
When people discuss "no flash" are they talking about the camera or the browser. I understand now this phone has neither but no camera flash I really couldn't care less, no browser flash? AHHHHHHHHHHH!
is it me or does the verizon specs not mention microsd support?
Wow... No WiFi.. No Tabs... Those are the complaints that keep coming up. I had the iPhone for awhile, and those are definitely some great features. But.... The iPhone had no MMS, no turn-by-turn navigation, no full bluetooth support, no replaceable battery, the camera was shoddy, no copy and paste (making receiving picture messages in code very annoying to view on the phone), and some other features I'm probably forgetting. Sure, I loved the iPhone and I'm a little upset I had to get rid of it. But no phone is perfect...not yet anyway
All of the features of the world's number 1 smartphone maker, plus large touch screen with multitouch and gesture touch, removable battery, EVDO Rev A 3G Speeds, plus HSDPA/HSUPA 3G for international access, AGPS for Voice Activated Turn By Turn directions, sharper resolution, than the already incredible screen on the Iphone 3G, 3.2 megapixel camera, stereo bluetooth, removable/upgradeable memory(huge advantage), and a browser supposedly as good as the Iphone's, minus the tabs? Sounds like a sure-winner to me. Only thing it doesn't have if wifi, although wifi drains battery a lot, and isn't available in most areas in which you can use Verizon's 3G service. I know a lot of people like wifi, and can use it in their offices, etc. However, there is a LOT MORE EVDO Rev A coverage area than wifi, and it's very fast.
I do agree. As a verizon customer currently looking to get his first blackberry, I'm sold.
I think this is a mistaken rumor. All the latest smart phones have WIFI, as WIFI is available where most business people go. Namely, the office, home, and at Starbucks.
And WIFI is much, much faster than EDVO will ever be. Is it more power hungry? Yes. But the high communicate speed results in less radio chatter, resulting in overall power savings. Emailing a photo taken with that camera? Expect WIFI to upload it 25x to 50x faster. That's quite a difference.
Well RIM really screwed up with this one! Everyone knows every touchscreen phone is compared to the iphone so why bother making one with the BlackBerry name if it's not going to be amazing?! I guess I'll just stick with my Curve...Oh and I hate this damn captcha thing!
In the USA home of the chickens and land of the greed.
RIM had a chance to compete with the Iphone. but the fact is that VERIZON just does not care about the product they provided but only the money they can suck out of you.
Like all the VERIZON phones
WIFI
GPS
will be taken down and the customer will have to pay extra for every single extra item. Sad very sad.
I will continue to use my CURVE because I do not see a product that is better yet, yes it has a big screen but that is it for me.
Thanks and Goo DAy!
You guys are killing me just reading this i understand case and point with the wifi whole airport outside of the u.s. understood ball was dropped but to complain about FLASH and OMG GPS..flash is not a big deal if it had a 2.0mp camera with flash u would complain because it was not 5mp its getting a little stupid how u complain about every little thing and flaw and GPS come on they ask for 9.99 a month to give u dtl turn by turn directions with traffic updates if u dont want it decline it and get google maps quit crying already its getting old people wont be satisfied until the phone has 20mp free gps multi touch screen vib feedback cooks cleans and washes your clothes and a little side of wifi get over it already!