Saudi Arabia stops BlackBerry data service for a few hours; RIM stock drops $2.7 billion
As of today Saudi Arabia had officially blocked data service to all BlackBerry devices, but it seems that after only 4 hours service has been restored. Details are still sketchy at the moment, but earlier today it was noted that users were only able to make and receive calls and not use any BlackBerry data service. Due to these events and facing bans in other countries, RIM stock has lost $2.7 billion in just two days. In addition to the ban in Saudi Arabia, this comes with the heat of facing bans in both the UAE and Indonesia. Stocks sank 4.46 percent this past Wednesday closing at $54.24. Just a few weeks ago the news of the bans didn't seem like they would turn out the way they have thus far. As RIM continues to work toward a solution with the nations involved, only time will tell which way things are headed for the future of BlackBerry.
Source: IBN Live/ Yahoo!
mvm549 Aug 6, 2010 at 12:48 pm
sk8er_tor Aug 6, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RIM's stock has ALWAYS been volatile so 2.7 billion in two days is nothing new.
gtirsmiley Aug 6, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Living in Dubai, I'm praying they can come to a resolution by October 11th because I really want the slider !
Plazmic Flame Aug 6, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I don't see how they can just "cut" off services like that. Wouldn't there be a huge outcry from the people?
elvin1983 Aug 6, 2010 at 1:34 pm
That's the problem with living in a country like that, the people have no say. The government pulls the trigger on whatever they want to do and the people just have to sit by, bend over, and take it. They unfortunately don't have the same liberties that we enjoy daily.
MILLYBLICK Aug 6, 2010 at 1:36 pm
ours are soon to be taken too... don't get comfortable.
Society1x Aug 6, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Glenn Beck will never let the fascist, socialist, corrupt, godless, regime take our BBM!!!
Plazmic Flame Aug 6, 2010 at 1:57 pm
LOL @ Glenn Beck, the most bi-polar man in history. I hope no one takes that guy seriously.
Jonneh Aug 6, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I don't know who's worse, Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly.
crysis63 Aug 6, 2010 at 7:57 pm
seconded
intheb0x Aug 6, 2010 at 9:44 pm
how about saying the same about
Obummer or Pelosi..
DevonB. Aug 6, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Third.
Law2138 Aug 6, 2010 at 12:52 pm
RIM better think of something quick to make up for that loss. That 9800 better sell like hotcakes.
FunkyDog Aug 6, 2010 at 12:54 pm
All we can say is fuck these regimes who snoop on their own citizens. You can't even vote them out in an elections. Either they have no elections or its rigged.
So fuck these cheap crap terrorism-supporters and its going to be their loss!
jlb21 Aug 6, 2010 at 1:30 pm
You now.....the US does too.....
buritoslicer Aug 6, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Money talks, RIM will definitely look for a solution.
House_Ape Aug 6, 2010 at 12:56 pm
@ BerryGuy25.... These are "Kindgdoms".... Yup... just like midevil Europe...
If the King says, you all need to wake up @ 3 in the morning and take a leak... You do that.... No questions asked....
That's why things over-there can be banned overnight and nobody has the power to do anything.... except his Highness...
Not much of a democratic process going on there....
bobalooski Aug 6, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Oh my, someone stubbed their toe in schlemenkia, hurry, sell, the world is ending...panic!!! We don't need any new products, we NEED a NEW Stock Market. It really gets old hearing you give me a dollar, I'll make you three dollars, I make ten dollars and give you back 33 cents. Get a clue!
unthink11 Aug 6, 2010 at 12:58 pm
the government claims they want to cut off data services from RIM because they have no means of eaves-dropping on the conversations. if they are really that concerned about it, they probably shouldnt have let it be publicly known that they have a blind spot. then work w/ the company to be allow access to those transmissions.
sounds like a bunch of ego-maniacs flexin muscle, letting the public (and RIM) know what happens if they are not pleased.
MrWireless31 Aug 6, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Good. Screw RIM. They get what they deserve.
sk8er_tor Aug 6, 2010 at 2:26 pm
You're a fool!
BBThemes Aug 6, 2010 at 1:02 pm
could be the time to buy, live share price right now? up +0.71% @$52.60
and to add, aapl = -1.07%
so things go up and down all the time
storm83 Aug 6, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Everyone thier mama are running toward the robot. I ran 2 months ago. My storm is used as a back up music player. RIM should pay attention to last week's poll about BB users planning on leaving BB for Droid. A very high percentage. To simply put it, BB has no life. Even with OS6 I think people will still run. That new Torch is noot enough. Especially when word on the street is that even teh storm 2 might not be able to handle OS6.Been burn too many times.
MILLYBLICK Aug 6, 2010 at 1:39 pm
the robot shall replace the human... RIM stand for more than these ego companies
MILLYBLICK Aug 6, 2010 at 1:01 pm
You lose 2.7 billion in two days... RIM definitely gave iphone and driod suckas a reason to critic now.
bilmaga Aug 6, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I don't see why they would block BIS. I'm sure terrorists have other means to communicate. Be that code words or languages not known. Not to mention their own encryption. Although come to think of it, I recall all of those videos leaked with terrorists bragging about their latest victories, they all had blackberries in their hands haha!!! So stupid
mykey2k Aug 6, 2010 at 2:45 pm
http://www.beinformedjournal.com/beinformed-journal/2010/3/18/dubais-hyp...
Boo.. the link gets chopped. http://is.gd/e6lVU
See, UAE and probably SA don't care about terrorism (or about as much as the US does), but that's how they get the world behind their schemes.
The problem with these countries is the radical religious fanaticism that abounds. These countries want to spy on their population, frightened that the enlightened West is up to their evil ways and are seeking to lure their women to open their eyes.
"Think of the terrorists" is the grown-up version of "think of the children" defense.
eaie Aug 6, 2010 at 1:03 pm
You never know.I sure hope everyone learns their lessons :)
Ronin916 Aug 6, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Yeah...that's gonna' leave a mark.
Timothinho Aug 6, 2010 at 1:08 pm
The Indonesian government will not block any BlackBerry service in the country. It's just a mere bluff so that RIM would set up its data center in indonesia. Although the rumor spreads like a disease on the news, the communication minister has officially stated that they have no plan of blocking BB service at all.
jiggy55 Aug 6, 2010 at 1:15 pm
I live in KSA, and let me tell you that this report is completely false. There are 3 mobile operators in KSA with blackberry services, today early morning one of them made system updates and maintenance. Hence, the BB service was down for some users of this mobile operator. This coincided on the same day as the supposed ban, making people believe it was cut. Other users from the mobile operators experienced no such issues. It was just a routine service upgrade.
I personally called customer service this morning and was told it would be back up and running in a few hours time. They told me the BB would not be suspended as reports had mentioned. BB service was up within the few hours period mentioned by customer service.
People are making such a big deal of this and blaming it on the government or lack there of, and that this is a Kingdom. Please don't make comments on such issues if you have no idea what is going on. Please stop these moronic comments, this was a decision taken for the security of the country and which have been rightfully raised by many other countries across the world. We all know SMS's and phone calls are monitored across the whole world, so this is nothing new.
Plazmic Flame Aug 6, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Always good to get the real perspective. What a difference from what the media and blog sites in North America have posted. Crazy...
mykey2k Aug 6, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Strange that the BBC, Australia, China (yes, China!) and India are reporting it the same way.
North America sure has grown last I checked...
jiggy55 Aug 6, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Thank you @berryguy25.
@mykey2k, Yes it is weird honestly. A simple phone call to that mobile operator would have made it clear to them. All BB services are working in KSA right now, and apparently a solution between RIM and the Saudis could be made very soon to solve the issues.
Jev Aug 6, 2010 at 7:09 pm
thanks for the info, and i am one of the few who prefer to support the national security of my country rather than insisting on using BIS...
FunkyDog Aug 6, 2010 at 1:20 pm
As far as it goes, I think Indonesia's threat is just thin. Indonesia has the largest berry market in SE Asia, and possibly one of the largest in East Asia. Its incredible to see with my own eyes during my many visits there that everyone has a berry.
A ban will cause a real public outcry and chaos. Indonesians will not think twice to cause public unrest all because of a mobile service.
And RIM will also think twice as that market really makes them big bucks.
Let RIM suffer a bit for what they are doing to us local followers not getting love for OS6.
And could be a sign that Torch could be a swansong in an earlier article that RIM could even be up for sale!
Jev Aug 6, 2010 at 7:06 pm
if BIS is banned in Indonesia then the millions of people will turn to Android first, and iPhone second. now i am sure that apple has some expectations here ;-D
papped Aug 6, 2010 at 1:35 pm
TBH, RIMM stock has been so volatile in the last year it would take a much larger drop than this for it to mean anything other than another "day"...
sk8er_tor Aug 6, 2010 at 2:34 pm
You're absolutely correct. This is "normal" for RIMM stock. Always fluctuating up and down.
somatek Aug 6, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Hey guys,
Tobias from Nimbuzz here.
We have been seeing huge growth in BlackBerry users from Saudi Arabia on our platform. We used to get a few hundred per day, on Wednesday we got 8,000, and n Thursday 35,000 new registrations.
People use Nimbuzz instead for their texting and IM needs on BlackBerry it seems.
Put some thoughts together here: http://usa.blog.nimbuzz.com/2010/08/06/saudi-arabian-blackberry-users-fl...
belfastdispatcher Aug 6, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Anybody else start to think this was manipulated to get the shares down? I would keep an eye out on who bough or will buy lots of Rim shares when they're down in price.
belfastdispatcher Aug 6, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Anybody else start to think this was manipulated to get the shares down? I would keep an eye out on who bough or will buy lots of Rim shares when they're down in price.
alicklee Aug 6, 2010 at 2:07 pm
watch there i bet the saudi will try and buy em when it low enough and for rim i wouldnt sell my shares
WillieLee Aug 6, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Market capitalization is a rather misleading figure to use. Apple has lost close to $19 billion in market capitalization in less than two months. Is anyone frightened?
All this shows in regards to the Middle East is that many people, and too many analysts, don't seem to understand how encryption works and really don't understand how RIM's NOC works. So many myths around what RIM really does with their servers and so little actual information. And Indonesia has no plans to ban BlackBerry service. The Wall Street Journal has corrected that piece.
parabola Aug 6, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Gulf states order Blackberry users to cover their phones in a tiny burqa: www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/08/02/gulf-states-order-blackberry-users-to-cov...
kemayou Aug 6, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Now is the time to buy RIM shares...I'm sure it'll go back up!
jiggy55 Aug 6, 2010 at 3:23 pm
This here is the latest news on the issue:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6751Q220100806?utm_source=feedburn...(News+/+US+/+Technology)
BBM was not cut this morning, just a few hours of service updating. Most news reports have falsely reported todays news.
i2ollingstone Aug 6, 2010 at 3:50 pm
If countries cut the service, then multinational companies may be forced to pull their operations out of the countries that cut the service. Who really gets hurt in that scenario?
Jev Aug 6, 2010 at 7:15 pm
companies? i thought it was only RIM? hahahaha... anyway, nobody will get hurts. there will always be alternatives as there has always have been.
i2ollingstone Aug 6, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Many companies rely on blackberries to keep their operations functional. If a company can't communicate effectively with their coworkers in KSA or UAE, then they'll have to make changes. I'm sure there are companies looking to leave already.
greeneink Aug 6, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Big Brother SUX!!!
I'm loving RIM more and more!!!
BB_Newbie50 Aug 6, 2010 at 4:14 pm
CrackBerry was quoted in an article on this subject
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38592252/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/
vazgon Aug 6, 2010 at 4:58 pm
I hate places like that, sounds to me that they want to control every move people do, an that's no RITE,
HTC_Droid_EvO Aug 6, 2010 at 10:51 pm
"that 9800 better sell like hotcakes"
They should have made it worth the purchase...
Drooiddd
FunkyDog Aug 7, 2010 at 4:36 am
Many of these Islamic radicals are just plain hypocrits anyways. They restrict and keep the people in their countries from engaging in porn and everything else based on some sanctimonious religious grounds while at the same time they jet off to Paris, London or the US with families in tow to engage in shopping, porn, good times with prostitutes and liquor.
IMHO, Islam worshippers are the worse of the lot while behind others back indulging in porn, prostitution and drugs while they condone kidnapping and killing of innocent civilians in the name of becoming martyrs in the name of their sucky religion.
STR8WESTCOAST Aug 9, 2010 at 11:30 am
TO DAMN FUNNY. WHATS WORSE THE IPHONE ISSUE OR THIS SHIT
papercrane Aug 10, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Forget the Middle East ... RIM needs to look at expanding and popularizing their products in Asia. There's a gigantic market over the Pacific. That being said, they've got to step up their game to compete with Samsung and Sony Ericsson.