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Posted by buzzdar Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

this is not available on the 9650 bold for verizon

 
 
Posted by danGDSGDES Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

i tried to install it on my bold 9650 & it said unauthorized!

 
 
Posted by Connor83 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Facebbok?

 
 
Posted by ComputerWolf Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Not offered for me, and I'm a member of the beta zone. I have a 9700...

 
 
Posted by aparkins30 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

9700 and not available...wtf

 
 
Posted by MarcSMASH Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Same here... I cannot find it. 9530 Storm

 
 
Posted by RevJar Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

It was listed under my eligible programs. I applied for it and everything went well. When I went to download it, it wasn't under my current enrolled programs, nor did I have the option for it again.

 
 
Posted by Candyapple4u Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 644 days ago

It was underneath my programs so I applied and downloaded. But when I went to install it asked me for a keycode. They didn't email me one..but they did email me why it was pulled. Bad for me because I already uploaded to my phone and I couldn't use it. Now I gotta delete and install the old Version.

 
 
Posted by jwhelan Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

It is not showing for me.

 
 
Posted by waker Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

it is not. sadly. :(

 
 
Posted by sk8er_tor Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

If anyone wants version 1.8.0.31, just google "facebook 1.8.0.31" and you'll see a way to download it and install it without any key required - just follow the steps. It will be the second link on the Google search from a site called blackberryrocks.com

 
 
Posted by imsorowdy08 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

thank you for this downloading now!!

 
 
Posted by MarcSMASH Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Downloading now. Thanks for the heads-up.

 
 
Posted by LoSt180 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Too late. Wish I noticed this work around this morning when I downloaded from BBZ! Now stuck waiting on a keycode that probably won't show up since FB 1.8 got pulled from my programs.

 
 
Posted by aparkins30 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

thanks man

 
 
Posted by Baldy246 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I did the walkaround and it shows I have 1.8.0.31 installed but the app doesn't look any different? Should I notice a difference?

 
 
Posted by scuebydue Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

The only real difference is the response time in loading. That's about it.

 
 
Posted by Ntchwaidumela Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Thank you sk8er. Downloading now. Great info.

 
 
Posted by juwaack68 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Thanks.

 
 
Posted by mr67man Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

The one installed on my 9650 is version 1.8.0.31 ...

 
 
Posted by Connor83 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I don't see it. not sure whats up with that.

 
 
Posted by rmcmann Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

It seems that v1.8 has been retracted for the time being. No one has it available anymore.

 
 
Posted by lraed74 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I've been using 1.8.031 and works good!

 
 
Posted by Jimberry Storm Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Just happened to be in the beta zone early this morning downloaded asked for key code up and running in no time. new version looks good.

 
 
Posted by flyingspatula Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

not showing up in the beta zone for me. That's annoying.

 
 
Posted by womby Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

:-T

 
 
Posted by millyblick Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I already have version 1.8.031, its been about two weeks since. And i'm happy with this version, so i'm not changing it

 
 
Posted by ixa Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Can anyone tell me how the notifications work in this version? Do they use the new Push API that RIM had mentioned before?

Or does it still use email notifications? :)

Thanks!

 
 
Posted by AndresMor Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

i don't see anything ugh! I think i missed it :/

 
 
Posted by AndresMor Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I just received a notification saying: version 1.8.0.49 now available :)

 
 
Posted by Guatiao Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Not for my 9700 yet... bummer!

 
 
Posted by d.nyce Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Its not there for me

 
 
Posted by linkkoriri Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Not Available yet under my BBZ. Was it possibly pulled?

 
 
Posted by alicklee Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I running this and it runs good it really does notify me when i get message and alerts finally all the other version of facebook never work on my storm like that. now only if they will put chat in it. they will be 10/10 in my books

 
 
Posted by Iluvbb Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I am a member and I have a 9700, yet FB isn't offered. Oh well :(

 
 
Posted by BajanDude Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Thought it wasn't only showing up for me

 
 
Posted by SeanBest Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Not available for me with a 9700.

 
 
Posted by yASMiN37 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I have 1.8.031 and it works fine for me

 
 
Posted by Rolandh Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I've just registerd with Beta Zone and the Facebook Beta is not showing up.

Roland

 
 
Posted by NoahFecks Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

The version pre-installed on the Torch is 1.8.0.39, so I don't understand why they're beta testing older versions (unless .39 is OS 6 specific).

 
 
Posted by BajanDude Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Thought it wasn't only showing up for me

 
 
Posted by johnsoj2us Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Hello everyone. I was able to get it from blackberryrocks.com. I have the 9700 Bold and I have been using it since this past saturday. Just go to that site and follow the instructions and you will have this fb version installed.

 
 
Posted by millyblick Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

word!!.. i got it elsewhere, but i'm not sharing where... muahahaha(evil laugh)

 
 
Posted by LoSt180 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Signed up this morning, downloaded, don't have a keycode though, can't use it. It's been removed from "My Programs" as of this afternoon.

My guess is the "scheduled update" last night somehow made this available to more people than they had intended. People are reporting in the BBZ forums that it disappeared from their program list as well, so not just my bad luck.

 
 
Posted by LoSt180 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I was right! Just got an email that basically blames scheduled maintenance for "inadvertently" making 1.8 available. Then goes on to say you're not getting it, and to sit tight and wait for some future release...

 
 
Posted by buschbrothers218 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I was about to download this version when I realized that my Facebook version is 1.8.0.47. So, why is 1.8.0.30 just now beta?

 
 
Posted by LoSt180 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

You must have a Torch then. I heard FB 1.8 came pre-loaded on those. Now why don't you dump the .cod files with BBSAK or something so the rest of us can give it a try! lol

 
 
Posted by buschbrothers218 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

If there is updates I am not seeing them. Didn't even realize it was a different version than what I had on my 9700. Dumping .cod files is way over my head. LOL

 
 
Posted by tnhrocks Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I had the leak running for a couple days on my 9650 but wasn't getting very good notifications, some came through while most others didn't. As far as speed it rocked! Hope they get released for everybody soon.

 
 
Posted by cannon83 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Ok so I have FB 1.8.0.31...not sure what the updates are. If u downloaded the app and have no keycode seacrh the web for the keycode walkaround it works :)

 
 
Posted by jfsalewicz Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

not there...I went to the beta zone and nothing......I have a Storm 2 so not sure if it not for the 9550 ....

 
 
Posted by Papa.pompous Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

No dice. Not available for the 9550 for Verizon either. My guess is it was pulled.

 
 
Posted by SJRod55 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Signed up
Downloaded
Went for code and it was no longer available!
Sent email and asked for code - will wait and see!

 
 
Posted by scuebydue Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

YOu don't need a code. Sign out. Once you download, don't reboot. Load it, accept the EULA, then sign in. Walah!

 
 
Posted by javdvd Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Not showing for me...it looks that they pull back the program...so saaaddd... :-(

 
 
Posted by boman06210 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I wish u weren't a liar lol

 
 
Posted by sg4real76 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

i found it it's downloading i did an ota after i did what sk8er_tor posted to do. the link on bb beta zone was gone for now. so this should be good and if anything needed updated it's Facebook for blackberry.

 
 
Posted by RedBank Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I visited the Beta Zone and noticed it was available and downloaded it before they removed it. Didn't have a key...so I emailed them and recv'd key within 5 minutes.

You guys aren't missing too much...so dont sweat it.

The biggest improvement would be that how quickly it updates your friend list...almost immediately (used to take foreverrrrrrr).

GUI is exactly the same

 
 
Posted by sg4real76 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

what is this keycode shit!

 
 
Posted by Iluvbb Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Followed sker tor's advice and checked out Blackberryrocks.com. It doesn't look different, is the UI supposed to be different, or is this more of a behind the scenes, improved perfomance update? I haven't had a chance to fiddle with it just yet.

Thanks for sharing that info Sker!

 
 
Posted by r0gueleader Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I have version 1.8.0.39 installed. I'm guessing this "beta" was for non-OS 6 phones only?

 
 
Posted by Smiley2169 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

but I dont see what I can get into the Facebook beta zone.

 
 
Posted by Smiley2169 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

but I dont see where I can get into the Facebook beta zone.

 
 
Posted by Ramsy Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I am already running Facebook 1.8.0.47 on my Torch. This version came packaged with the recently leaked OS 6.0.0.161.

 
 
Posted by YepItsSher Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I got the leaked version and it works great!

 
 
Posted by john_991 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Does Facebook 1.8.0.30 require BIS? (As I don't have a bb bis plan)

thanks

 
 
Posted by rizzzzoooo Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Yep...don't think it is showing yet....can't seem to find it too.

 
 
Posted by bronko213 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I probably use the FB app more than any others on my BB. I was able to visit crackberry during my lunch break and it is too little too late. If anyone finds an OTA or link, please post. I am a beta member, but as you all know, it is long gone.

 
 
Posted by johnsoj2us Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

http://blackberryrocks.com/2010/08/18/facebook-version-1-8-0-carrier-pre...

 
 
Posted by sg4real76 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

its over with im going back to the old version i cant get it at all. share the keycode people

 
 
Posted by CubanoGT Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

So I went to download it and it turns out I already have it lol... I just signed up for beta and I haven't upgraded my Facebook app in awhile I wonder where I got it at...

 
 
Posted by womby Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

FB on socialscope ftw. jus' sayin.

 
 
Posted by scuebydue Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I know right??!!

 
 
Posted by CubanoGT Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I got 1.8.0.31 not .30

 
 
Posted by WolfmanRobby Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

@sg4real76 - RE: your "Share the keycode" request.

There is nothing to share. Each "KeyCode" is generated based on your devices PIN. It' a security feature in the beta zone.

While I missed the window on this, I have KeyCodes for other programs I'm participating in for the Beta Zone. I could post every one of those keys and none of them would do anyone any good. They will only work on my device. The Beta software uses a security "Hash" that checks the code aganist the PIN on the device.

Sorry!

 
 
Posted by Baldy246 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

.

 
 
Posted by Baldy246 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

The only visable notice I see is while viewing pictures the display is a little different and it shows number of "likes" and comments above photo.

 
 
Posted by ffac789 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Yeah I've been running 1.8.0.31 for a while. It's a blessing it's much faster than 1.7.

 
 
Posted by s2kneSs Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I went to the BBZ and it was pulled as everyone is saying but I googled it and downloaded it from bbrocks and I'm currently running version 1.8.0.31.

The changes I've noticed:
Increase in news feed load time,almost instantly as I scroll.
When you go into the friends area it loads instantly
When you click on a picture a pop up box comes up asking if you "like" "want to comment" or "view comments" on the picture
You can scroll for a WHILE on the feeds, no need to quickly hit "view more"

Overall it is a good solid improvement over the previous version.

 
 
Posted by Jude526 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

it isn't available for my Bold on Verizon

 
 
Posted by kayceeee Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Got it thru blackberryrocks.com

Didn't need a code just follow the instructions..seems like it loads faster..scrolls better..bb 9700 rogers

 
 
Posted by Cynamonne Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Here's a link o get it (leaked version) I'm running it right now and works well. Just follow the instructions.http://blackberryrocks.com/2010/07/12/facebook-app-blackberry-beta-version-1-8-0-31-leaked-keycode-workaround/

 
 
Posted by thickwdimples Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

There is no program for facebook when i went into my Beta program

 
 
Posted by drlake Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

The new beta for Facebook is no longer available in BB's Beta area.

 
 
Posted by Hdesign3 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Got it from Blackberry Rocks! installed it following their instructions. it works!!!

 
 
Posted by bronko213 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Does this really work? Anyone tried it?

 
 
Posted by eggnoodle Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

followed sk8er_tor's instructions and it worked fine. After the install, I checked under Options>Applications>Add-on, it shows FB version 1.8.0.31.
I guess this works..

 
 
Posted by RedBank Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Last night, improvements were made to BlackBerry Beta Zone during a scheduled maintenance. While this update was being implemented, the Facebook 1.8.0 - Carrier Preview Beta Program was inadvertently made available on your homepage. This was done in error and the program has since been closed and is no longer available. Please disregard any keycodes sent to you as the application is not available.

BlackBerry Beta Zone Administrator

 
 
Posted by anguish79 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Got the email RedBank just posted. RIM giveth, and then they taketh away.

 
 
Posted by Ntchwaidumela Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Yep, they already pulled the file. Must be some last-minute tweaks. Hopefully, this will correct some annoying glitches.

 
 
Posted by bronko213 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

The key code work around is legit. Nice little update to the FB app. Seems quicker.

 
 
Posted by tucg15 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Put this link into your browser and follow the instructions and it works perfectly! Updates to the new version smoothly.

Here's a link o get it (leaked version) I'm running it right now and works well. Just follow the instructions.http://blackberryrocks.com/2010/07/12/facebook-app-blackberry-beta-version-1-8-0-31-leaked-keycode-workaround/

This new version makes the app usable! It's so so so much faster! Well worth the update.

 
 
Posted by tucg15 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Put this link into your browser and follow the instructions and it works perfectly! Updates to the new version smoothly.

Here's a link o get it (leaked version) I'm running it right now and works well. Just follow the instructions.http://blackberryrocks.com/2010/07/12/facebook-app-blackberry-beta-version-1-8-0-31-leaked-keycode-workaround/

This new version makes the app usable! It's so so so much faster! Well worth the update.

 
 
Posted by tucg15 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

my bad

 
 
Posted by tucg15 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I wanted to see if loading photos directly to FB was any better with this upgrade and it is tremendously better. It would take forever for your friends list to load to tag a photo and now its almost instant! This is awesome.

 
 
Posted by aparkins30 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

am I getting asked to put in a keycode even though I followed the instructions step by step?

 
 
Posted by greenii Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Wow, didn't take long for RIM to pull that beta!

 
 
Posted by XyKo Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Do I need a previous version to get the work-around? I just downloaded and installed it. There were no reboot required nor anything. Open the app and click accept, and got an "invalid keycode" message.

 
 
Posted by eggnoodle Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I didn't have the original beta version nor did I have the FB app. I just followed the directions given from previous post and it seemed to work.

 
 
Posted by tucg15 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Yes, you need to have had the latest version on your phone.

 
 
Posted by geoffjam78 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I downloaded the leak through blackberyrocks.com for my storm 9530 and it is 1.8.0.31...works great though. Its faster, photos load faster too...

 
 
Posted by eclipsegsohsix Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I downloaded the leaked version and must say the overall speedup of FB is much better! Much less lag than there was before. In comparison, loading time feels instant.

The only problem that I have noticed so far was that when viewing comments, there is the "Add Friend" link next to everyone, even if they are already your friend.

 
 
Posted by yodatom10 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

HERE IS A OTA TO FACEBOOK 1.8
http://www.geekymojo.com/ota/Facebook18/FB.jad

no need to thank me

 
 
Posted by Ballroom Dru Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I have one major issue with the facebook application for Blackberry. Once you exceed 1,200 friends it starts being really slow and laggy. And I have 1,550 (yes, I actually do know them all.) Does this new version perform better with the load of that many friends or no?

 
 
Posted by fsv57 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I did the workaround at bbrocks and it worked just fine. The UI is the same like everyone is saying and it loads everything better!!! Very nice.

 
 
Posted by db1561 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Pardon my ignorance.. But all that I get is the option to save the .jad file when I use the link above from yodatom10.

I put it on my memory card and it asks for a cod file? What the hell am I doing wrong?

I have a Storm-2

Thanks.

 
 
Posted by hudss Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

open the url on your BB..not the PC

 
 
Posted by AndresMor Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

1.8.0.49 via notification. me exited :)

 
 
Posted by jabbs1 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

huh? you exited? and what notification?

 
 
Posted by AndresMor Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 644 days ago

First!

 
 
Posted by moyjoy Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Yeap, got it a few weeks ago from the forum with the workaround. nice improvements. :)

 
 
Posted by sabbotage Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Facebook 1.8.0.49 is now available for download in appworld! woohoo!

 
 
Posted by boman06210 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Cuz mine still says 1.7.0.22

 
 
Posted by Sanch0 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Probably already mentioned, but the beta release that many have already downloaded is 1.8.0.31, not .30. Could this be an older beta or the same thing?

 
 
Posted by lycan666 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Okay guys sorry I'm late but dnt be upset just go to app world and dload d latest fb 1.8.0.49 . They pulled it of betazone but updated app world.

 
 
Posted by DaedalusIcarusHelios Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Just get the 1.8.0.49 version from App World. I just got it.

 
 
Posted by geoffjam78 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I just checked app world and 1.7.0.22 is still showing...

 
 
Posted by db1561 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

went to app world and all i see is the older version?

 
 
Posted by sg4real76 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

and i just got that 1.8.0.31 version now there is a .49 app im gonna go check app world now.

 
 
Posted by sg4real76 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

yep all i see is the old version when i look at app world via my laptop but i got the new .31 version when i look at it from my blackberry. .49 is where now hmmmm?

 
 
Posted by tarotmusic Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Since the day it came out on Beta Zone. It works okay for the most part - nothing special beyond what was already out there in my opinion. I'm on Storm2, 5.0.0.713

 
 
Posted by veerthetiguy Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I just received a App World alert asking me to upgrade to 1.8.0.49, without doing anything on Beta Zone...

 
 
Posted by jamesuc Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I saw a posting on the blacberryrocks website that 1.8 does not work on phones with an OS below 5.0. Has anyone loaded it with OS below 5.0?

 
 
Posted by wolverine09 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I just downloaded the Facebook application from BB app world and I am running 1.8.0.49!? I'm confused...

 
 
Posted by haymond Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

anyone have the link for the new facebook

 
 
Posted by UniiqueChiq Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Not available for me to dl. :-(

 
 
Posted by Iron_Hide Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

Just browsing App World and just out of curiosity I clicked on FB and to my surprise, its at 1.8.0.49

 
 
Posted by babygirl1706 Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 645 days ago

I just got the new Facebook 1.8.0.49 from App World. After downloading Slacker Radio on my BB, I rebooted my phone. When it came back up I notice my icons were all messed up, That's when I realized my Facebook app was gone. I looked in all my folder and still did not find it, so I decided to just go and redownload it. When I found it, it said v. 1.8.0.49!!! Whooo hooo!!!

 
 
Posted by AJ_Franklin Wednesday, Aug 18, 2010 644 days ago

I'm a member of BB Beta Zone and when the App wasn't available for me I checked my new phone and found that 1.8.0.39 comes pre-loaded.

 
 
Posted by Alexd Friday, Aug 20, 2010 643 days ago

I tried downloading it through app world and it was 1.7

So I sent the link from beta zone www.blackberry.com/facebook and selected download directly from your bb browser. Sent the email to my phone. And it just finished~

Just letting yal know.

 
 
Posted by vampireCarden Monday, Oct 25, 2010 577 days ago

I have been trying for over 3.5 hrs to get beta to load... No luck. Are they down? Anybody else?