* Update 2: Definitely see our updated post on this one - Could be a photoshop and we've got some follow up details on the Pluto project you'll want to read. *
*Update: So we've got a bit of question mark on whether or not the 9900 will ultimately hit the market with a SurePress display (screen that moves and clicks) or just a standard fixed touchscreen. We've known that earlier prototypes of this model have had the SurePress Storm-styled clickable screen, but are also hearing that part of what Vodafone/Verizon sealed up with their Storm exclusivity deal was the SurePress technology, at least for a while. So for now we're going to leave a question mark on this. And in the comments you can let us know what you'd prefer - a Touch Bold with a screen that clicks (a la Storm) or a fixed touchscreen. Ahh...gotta love the rumormill games! *
Holy FRAK. Here ya go. Just when we're starting to get excited for the CDMA BlackBerry 9630, here's a first real image of the BlackBerry 9900 (looks like the image itself used in the Rogers document is from a RIM device simulator). This is what has been referred to as "Pluto" for sometime now.
So what's the BlackBerry 9900 all about? We're talking about a BlackBerry Bold style-device with SurePress Touchscreen. Like the Bold, it'll be a 3G device and use the same speedy processor. What it will not have is a trackball. Crazy. Wicked.
According to this document it's slated for Rogers Q3 release, though we wouldn't be suprised to see it hit in Q4. And of course, like the Bold, we'll see this rollout to GSM carriers around the globe. Excited much??!!!
kenlundy17 Mar 14, 2009 at 10:30 am
finally. could this be the epic phone. the phone to kill all phones? i guess we can only stay tuned.
lakerz4lyfe Mar 14, 2009 at 10:30 am
Looks awesome
Crucial_Xtreme Mar 14, 2009 at 10:31 am
Nice pic there Kevin..... :D
JBB89 Mar 14, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Why is it when I see this post from CX, it almost makes me think he took the picture. :P haha
berrycrack Mar 14, 2009 at 10:31 am
mmmmm
jcdaniels Mar 14, 2009 at 10:31 am
i'll probably never get one of these. but my father is looking to make the switch to a Smart Phone... maybe I'll have him wait it out for this one!
ipod screen Apr 10, 2009 at 1:16 am
Your dad will not look back after he's made the plunge to the Smart Phone.
Maven454 Mar 14, 2009 at 10:34 am
Congratz, I think you just redefined SWEET!
--Maven
Andy348 Mar 14, 2009 at 10:35 am
Wow Crackberry is on the ball this morning!!!
Looks good but I love my trackball too much to give it up for a touch screen =[
hastings Mar 14, 2009 at 10:36 am
No trackball? Bad move.
Having both would be fantastic. After using the Storm since it came out I can safely say the device would be 100x better with a trackball.
gtstang462002 Mar 14, 2009 at 2:51 pm
The G1 on T-Mobile has both the touchscreen and the trackball on it. Everyone that I talk to about having both features has stated that they never use the trackball because they have found that it is simply easier to navigate with the touchscreen.
bduschel Mar 14, 2009 at 10:40 am
Now that is something worth getting excited over. Full Keyboard and touchscreen? Best of both worlds!!
rbecerra Mar 14, 2009 at 10:42 am
This is awesome! I just may retire my storm early... :)
Forte Mar 14, 2009 at 10:49 am
Pretty nice I like it a lot comning the goodness of the bold keyboard and the thing that surepress does best selecting stuff! :)
GKang Mar 14, 2009 at 10:50 am
I just don't want to think about it... got the Bold.. don't want to think about spending for another one.. damn RIM... relax your production... lol Proud to be Canadian :)
Leo.brazuca Mar 14, 2009 at 10:52 am
It looks like a Storm with a keyboard... I like too bad it is GSM :(
dgs2000 Mar 14, 2009 at 10:53 am
To me, the entire advantage of the Storm vs conventional blackberries is the ability to have the virtual keyboard hidden to free up all that gorgeous screen real estate. That won't happen here, and as far as I can tell, there is no other advantage ON THE BLACKBERRY OS to having the touchscreen vs the traditional trackball interface.
es_bih Mar 14, 2009 at 10:54 am
Without hardware 5-way controls you will be disappointed... touchscreen are a fad - not a functional one either. I'd take a non-touchscreen Windows Mobile phone over a touchscreen any day. It could possibly work with a trackball, and coding the software to be hardware keys/navigation based - with click features and using the touchscreen mainly for quick access to icons and selecting text.
I'll be sticking to the 2nd generation 8900 with HSDPA radio - am happy with my standard non-touch 8900 Berry.
DaX05 Mar 14, 2009 at 10:54 am
Mother of God! Research In Motion are looking for world dominiation, lol. That's S-W-E-E-T !! It's great to see that RIM aren't resting at all. Keep 'em coming!
rallypig31 Mar 14, 2009 at 11:00 am
SWEET!!! i love the swipe to scroll on the storm but CANNOT stand the virtual key board, yet i wonder if would still be a pain to selct/copy paste as the storm???
northstahr Mar 14, 2009 at 11:00 am
Now this is sweet!!
dusteater#CB Mar 14, 2009 at 11:03 am
I don't understand what they are trying to do here....
Keyboard, but no trackball...
Touchscreen with a tiny screen?
This device makes no sense and seems rather unpractical.
kingzee Mar 14, 2009 at 12:49 pm
I agree with dusteater. Without a trackball, you still face the myriad of problems you have with the Storm - copy/paste, highlighting, selecting with precision, using forms online is a pain, etc, etc. Unless it's not a surepress screen and comes with a stylus, I don't know how this will turn out. Well, UNLESS they improve the touch technology we will still need a trackball.
gtstang462002 Mar 14, 2009 at 2:54 pm
If they integrate the new copy and paste tool into this phone as they have with the storm's new OS's that are getting leaked it will be a very usable feature.
dboone2 Mar 14, 2009 at 10:54 pm
this is true. i use a .113/.114 hybrid and the copy/paste feature has been greatly improved.
Moto19 Mar 14, 2009 at 11:04 am
I hope tis is the size of the Bold and not the 8900.
ALCie Mar 14, 2009 at 11:06 am
Another leak today? Nice
Whats with the no trackball? That makes absolutely no sense!
But it did get me excited. And I want to see more of whats on page 99...
ConverseMan Mar 14, 2009 at 11:13 am
wow, now I could totally blow my bank account on that! Pretty sweet idea!!
Crucial_Xtreme Mar 14, 2009 at 11:13 am
Using this device is actually sweet. It's much faster because there is no scrolling. You just touch the icon you want. Then type. Makes for very fast navigating. Very good overall experience.
jdoc77 Mar 14, 2009 at 11:44 am
Nope. Nope. Nope.
I use epocrates every day several times a day and the "touch screen" experience of selecting input fields is sorely lacking. Anyone wanting to actually use their phone quickly and unobtrusively will be disappointed without a trackball... I'm serious. Before you give me your "used it more than thou" pronunciation, download epocrates, go to the medical calculators section and time yourself on doing an anion gap. Sure, I can do it with the regular calculator... but that's not the point! I used to be able to do it on the curve in 10 seconds.
gtstang462002 Mar 14, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Not every device that is put on the market is going to satisfy every person in the world. If this was the case they would make a single phone that everyone would buy and that would be the end of the phone market.
jdoc77 Mar 14, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I was responding to his blanket (and wrong) statement that a touch screen makes "very fast navigation". This device is SO not for me... I guess, but if that's the case, it's not for anyone that wants to actually be happy with their blackberry experience.
loudsystem Mar 14, 2009 at 11:18 am
ibcompletePOSliketheStorm
chopsticks Mar 14, 2009 at 11:23 am
I hope they have fixed the Surepress when the 9900 comes out. I want this and the 9630! :)
AaronZ Mar 14, 2009 at 11:31 am
Can we get a shot of page 99?
Lower left hand corner states "turn to page 99 for more information."
Monty17 Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 am
This device looks sick!!! I wish they would have both the trackball and the touchscreen because when using the device one-handed, I think the trackball comes in handy. All in all, this is another step in the right direction.
mcm180 Mar 14, 2009 at 11:38 am
i am at a loss for words
jdoc77 Mar 14, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I know.. it's that depressing, isn't it?
ixl333 Mar 14, 2009 at 11:39 am
Touchscreen is an inferior interface whose primary advantage is to allow for a large screen. This seems like the worst of both worlds.
Treatz Mar 14, 2009 at 11:45 am
I dunno
the trackball is right where my thumb is
having to move my thumb UP to the screen and back down the keyboard may prove annoying
hernandezjc11#cb Mar 14, 2009 at 11:46 am
I have the bold, but can't wait to get my hands on this one too!
solosmooth Mar 14, 2009 at 11:53 am
Very NICE!! Touch Screen & Keyboard!! ME WANT!!
wirelessgal Mar 14, 2009 at 11:55 am
WOW!! I didn't expect to see any pics of the 9900 until Q3!
Well, this changes my phone purchase plans for this year.
Wow, I am speechless and this hardly ever happens! LOL
Phone looks damn hot! Way to go RIM! I'm excited lots!
BigSacAttack Mar 14, 2009 at 11:58 am
Well maybe this is RIM's way of putting this out there to gather consumer feedback. So if we all yell loud enough to have a trackball put in, they'll change it!!! Ya think!!
PUT IN A TRACKBALL PLEASE!!! There I did my share. ;D
mshawn11 Mar 14, 2009 at 11:58 am
WOOOOOWWWWWWWW now thats how you start a crackberry weekend!!!
missginacandy Mar 14, 2009 at 12:08 pm
hope t-mobile gets this one
johnnymac Mar 14, 2009 at 12:16 pm
people people - just because YOU may not like touchscreens, or YOU may want a trackball, don't take so much offense to what RIM is designing here. They're basically just trying to offer all sorts of options to capture MORE of the market.
Take my wife for example - she has a device (non-RIM, for now) that has both a full qwerty keyboard AND a touchscreen, and she tells me there's no way she'd use a device that did not have BOTH of those features. She likes the kb for data entry, and she likes the touchscreen for quick screen navigation. And she is a total non-techie.
I think RIM has heard over time that there is a portion of the market that wants both qwerty AND touchscreen - and as strange as that may seem to some of you/us here in this forum, those people exist out there. It may not be you, and it may not be the traditional BB user, but just relax a bit. RIM is seeking to EXPAND their market, and this device is just one more example of that. The Flip is another, and there are likely many more to come. Heck you may even see a slider or something like that (shudder). Who knows?
Just know that RIM isn't trying to offend you guys - relax and take a breath.
ausch Mar 14, 2009 at 12:21 pm
I think this device will either be a love it or hate it one for some people. Or it could be the best of two worlds. Full QWERTY Bold keyboard and Storm touchscreen (maybe storm like). And with the no trackball, I don't know why people make a big deal about it. The Storm doesn't have one either.
ausch Mar 14, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I think we should see what's going on page 99 "for more information please refer to page 99" :) Specs?
npunk42 Mar 14, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Around and around and around they go again. Wherever it stops a new/same phone pops out, lets call it a....BOLD! Yeah, thats the ticket.
cuban_dudeca Mar 14, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I think it would be more practicale to have a touchscreen instead of surepress. I mean the whole reason the surepress came out was so you think your clicking a button. But with this phone having a physical keyboard I think a touch screen like the iphone that does not click is more practical. Why put a trackball? You then just have a bold with a touchscreen that you would never use. A trackball on a touchscreen phone is pointless. Thats just my 2 cents. I'm happy with my Storm.
the free coupons Mar 15, 2009 at 4:20 am
This is not what is going to make me buy a new phone. I think that the trakpoint is fine. I had a problem with the screen of an other touch phone a long time ago and I would have given anything to have a trackball or anything else.
ppratik96 Mar 14, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Did you notice that Berry in BlackBerry is not capital? This tells me that either ROGERS doesn't care about Capitalization or it is FAKE!
carbide50 Mar 14, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Looks pretty fishy to me. You're absolutely right, the Berry would be capitalized if this were a RIM product. I believe the 9900 exists because of CX's comment, but I believe this picture is a result of Photoshop.
Bryan
roninark Mar 14, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I used to have an iphone with at&t....touchscreens are not as good as trackball. The screens have to be cleaned constantly and with a small screen like blackberrys hitting little icons with a big finger is a real pain.
grojas23 Mar 14, 2009 at 12:34 pm
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is what i have been waiting for. a touchscreen and a blackberry qwerty keyboard yay!!!!!!!!!!!! i wanted the bold but forget that ill wait on this :)
starfleet_k Mar 14, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I remember last year keven posted a patent for blackberry touch wih a landscape slide out keyboard.... has anyone heard of when or if it is coming out??
Please let me know .. i would love that one
http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/02/new-slider-patent-from-rim/
thats the pic
ab345 Mar 14, 2009 at 12:40 pm
It seems a little odd to me that Rogers will not properly spell BlackBerry, note lower case b in berry, either sloppy or fishy???
BlackberryStorm98 Mar 14, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Any chance that we may see this on a CDMA network like Verizon??
Unknownesx Mar 14, 2009 at 12:44 pm
SurePress
kayben Mar 14, 2009 at 12:45 pm
I think this looks awesome and the B is capitol on the device itself. I can't wait. I hope verizon gets this too!
dwp1975 Mar 14, 2009 at 12:49 pm
I don't think the lowercase "b" is the fishy party, but why if it's a Roger's product don't they know the model #? It says 99xx which denotes they have no idea what model it is. Is that normal? I would think that a model number would already be hashed out by the time a carrier has agreed to carry it. But that is just me I am not in the wireless industry.
hate touch screen Mar 14, 2009 at 12:49 pm
hate the touch screen blackberry. I am looking to go back to the trackball. The touch screen is to slow for my texting and it makes mistakes all the time. I might switch to at&t for the bold which my uncle has and is super awesome!
Bison Mar 14, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Seriously I don't think it really matters or needs a conspiracy formed around it.
Back to the subject.
Based off the same looks as the Bold w/o trackball I see this device flopping except for the enthusiast crowd. Unless major changes are made in the coming months (they still have 6 monts). Smallest screen out thre for a touchscreen which is a no no if your getting rid of keyboard navigation for touch-screen ability. They would need to get rid of the classic row of buttons where the trackball used to be (call, end, menu, back).
In truth why the hell would you have those buttons anyways if its touchscreen? LOL that just seems fricken retarded and makes the product a further mutant. You said you would come out with a touchscreen with a keyboard so do just that nothing more and I think people were kind of expecting a Storm/iPhone layout with a slideout keyboard maybe as bulky as the G1 was. I could be wrong but thats the vibe I got reading about the 9900.
At least get rid of those buttons mentioned and add a little more screen instead. It already looks freakishly retarded if this truly is a touchscreen and an extra half-inch to inch is going to help sell this easier. Those are just a few things that can be done better from just looking at it.
I sure hope this is a fake. I will probably just go Bold when its time to upgrade at the end of this year.
Tried and True vs Frankenstein Modern Art retro crap.
Queen4111 Mar 14, 2009 at 1:01 pm
This is way over the TOP!!!
drunken0monkey Mar 14, 2009 at 1:05 pm
The device itself does not excite me that much (touch screen interface on a small screen appears a little strange to me personally). However, this does suggest that RIM is sticking with the touch screen technology; maybe not for all their devices but it does look like it's not just a passing trend.
Some people appear to be saying that they don't like touch screens at all. I would suggest that once refined and provided that you don't have to type using a screen, it really is a superior method of navigating a display. Smartphones are not the only devices going this way; just look at POS terminals, cutting edge home devices, Windows systems and I'd say most input devices going forward.
Good news for both worlds I would suggest. Those who like the touch screen tech will probably continue to see improvements (Storm users) and those wanting both or at least a physical keyboard will not be left behind.
Xopher Mar 14, 2009 at 1:07 pm
The thing I find intersting is that it looks like it just has silver side rails, similar to an 8800 series, just without the trackball.I wonder if it is going to be similar in size to the 8800 series.
ryanbracht Mar 14, 2009 at 1:10 pm
very nice, but yes, i agree, trackball needed!
pfastfoot Mar 14, 2009 at 1:15 pm
OK, full disclosure: I've spent little time using the iPhone. I really, really like my Bold. But, my two cents: it's not just the touchscreen that gets people excited about the iPhone. It's how well the OS works with the touchscreen. It's like all the people who used to harsh on ipods for not having a built-in radio, ability to delete songs, removable battery, etc.
I didn't get it until I got an ipod. It just worked so well, and so smoothly. I know the iPhone isn't as perfect as the ipod, but it's pretty close, and it's clear it was designed from the bottom up with a touchscreen in mind. Unless RIM re-boots its OS, it's not going to make a dent in the iphone's popularity.RIM needs to figure out how to fight the iPhone, and playing the "me too" card isn't going to cut it.
nafiz011 Mar 14, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Improved even surepress screen; unlike storm
spcurtis81 Mar 14, 2009 at 1:28 pm
I am not for one minute suggesting I don't like the look of some of these new models however does anyone else agree that RIM's priority right now should be improving what is under the hood? Looking at the work Apple and Palm are doing (particularly the Palm Pre), there are a lot of great new connectivity features coming through. Palm Pre's synchronisation between, im, internet, social web and just about anything else they can imagine is in my eyes a true step forward not to mention the future plans to integrate Flash into their OS later in the year. First impressions of the Pre's browser seems pretty special too while the Blackberry browser still leaves a lot to be desired. Not wanting to start the Pre vs. Apple vs. Blackberry battle too early I am just wonder what RIM has got up it's sleeve to keep up with the competition in OS department. The new models look great but as a Blackberry fan who has put up with some pretty poor OS issues I'd love to think that there is a decent level of investment going into improving the internal workings of the phones aswell.
siopow Mar 14, 2009 at 1:28 pm
it's BlackBerry not Blackberry
hussainfatal Mar 14, 2009 at 1:39 pm
boy genius says this is photoshopped =(
gtstang462002 Mar 14, 2009 at 3:17 pm
The proper term would probably be a CAD(computer aided design) drawing. Which is perfectly acceptable in my book. It is part of the R&D process. Typically one of the first steps.
carbide50 Mar 14, 2009 at 3:17 pm
As I stated earlier, me too. I've already got a copy fixed with the second B capitalized. Took about a minute.
CoryJay Mar 14, 2009 at 2:07 pm
My next Berry :)
blakeberry Mar 14, 2009 at 2:26 pm
It is great to see RIM looking at numerous options with phone designs. I am sure this will be welcomed by many.
As for me, and being a longtime user, I am not sure this is a fit for me. That is just me. I have the storm right now because of the size of the screen. The touchscreen was a way to have the large screen. If I was limited to a smaller screen, I would not need a touchscreen and would welcome the keyboard and trackball.
Hopefully it's a success and comes with a smoking os.
n8d Mar 14, 2009 at 2:40 pm
This is so fake it's ridiculous that it even made it onto the blog.
vbev84 Mar 14, 2009 at 3:36 pm
This is amazing, hope to see it on at&t!
Kostantinos Mar 14, 2009 at 7:21 pm
why not a track ball for quick uses while typing and stuff.
Matt_25 Mar 14, 2009 at 8:58 pm
The paper isn't even straight lol
bluehorseshoe Mar 15, 2009 at 12:12 am
The Rogers shot is certainly fake and photoshopped. All you need to do is look at the "Blackberry" error. S/B "BlackBerry." Oh well...
BaRTiMuS Mar 15, 2009 at 5:09 pm
I want to see page 99 lol.
tomáš.k Mar 15, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I know a couple of people who will be glad to hear about this (mainly my girl friend which whines about touch keyboards but then also whines about having to use the track ball to do everything) but its not for me.
mos Mar 16, 2009 at 8:33 am
This phone is gonna Kill the competition
mos Mar 20, 2009 at 8:17 am
I think its gonna be a HOT phone
KorbenDeck Apr 1, 2009 at 10:08 am
I guess i can hold off on buying a new BB till this one comes out
ria1 Aug 5, 2009 at 2:44 pm
A touch screen blackberry is the best thing, its awesome.
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darmar Aug 14, 2009 at 9:16 am
I'd like to see SurePress Touchscreen on this one...
As 9900 will still have real qwerty keyboard, then this SurePress would be OK for onMouseOver effects while surfing web...
For typing, SurePress is terrible... I'm an ex Storm user, and now I'm Bold :)
crod2224 Oct 27, 2009 at 3:42 am
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1693&c=rim_blackberry_bold_9900_ri...
i think this is the real 9900 i cant see the berry without a trackball....hate the storm
Figo666 Jan 17, 2010 at 2:54 am
any update?
BillyNYC Apr 23, 2010 at 11:23 pm
The NEW BlackBerry 9900 touchscreen 3G coming December 2010.
Hedge Fund Billionaire Philip Falcone's Plan to take over Verizon and AT&T building a massive 4G wireless network that cover the coutry in 2015.FCC formally approved the deal last week.
FCC has gaving a warning to Sprint to STOP there "ADVERTISEMENT" saying they have the "4G" network or will be find $10,0000.00 per day. FCC says the 4G Network will not be in the USA until after 2015.
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greenii Apr 14, 2011 at 1:10 pm
I just got this in my email today. Interesting!
http://www.bgr.com/2011/04/04/leaked-blackberry-bold-touch-videos-showca...
Unlockology Jun 16, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Blackberry needs to focus on the giving the consumer the biggest screen possible. The 9800 Torch offers the best compromise and gives you the best of both worlds. However, if the photos are real the upcoming 9900 seems like more of the same? RIM's competitive advantage over Android phones and the iphone will only come if it can differentiate itself from the pack.