EU and South Korea working together to develop 5G networks

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By Harish Jonnalagadda on 16 Jun 2014 08:29 am EDT
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The South Korean government announced today that it will collaborate with the EU in developing new technologies, set standards and allocate radio frequencies for next-generation mobile information and communication networks.

Under the terms of the agreement, a new joint working group will be established, which will "plan and set up joint research and development projects." The joint venture would ensure global interoperability of 5G networks, as well as create a set of global communication standards for 5G networks while providing ICT services for the cloud and the Internet of Things.

South Korea has always been at the forefront of mobile technology, becoming the first country to implement LTE-A networks. Earlier this year, the South Korean government mentioned that commercialisation of 5G would occur as early as 2020.

Handset vendors are also testing out methodologies for successfully implementing 5G services, with Samsung stating earlier this year that it made a breakthrough in the development of 5G technology. The South Korean manufacturer mentioned that it found a way to transmit large volumes of data using a much higher frequency band.

In addition to handset manufacturers like Samsung and LG, mobile carriers like SK Telecom, KT and LG Uplus are hard at work in becoming the first carriers to offer 5G services. Overall, over $1.57 billion will be invested over the next seven years to bring 5G networks to life.

The EU's involvement would significantly bolster South Korea's efforts, while being mutually beneficial to both parties. EU digital commissioner Neelie Kroes said that the collaboration on 5G networks would put the EU back in the driver's seat. She said, "In the '90s we were in the driver seat, talking about GSM, so it would nice to be back in that position." While the EU was slow at implementing the 4G standard, the European Commission is investing over $948 million to drive research into 5G technologies "without delay."

Are you as excited as us about the upcoming 5G standard?

Source: Yonhap News

49 comments

guygardner73

Sweet!

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stackberry369

Sweet? The one world government is coming, what's so sweet about that?

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tranquil45

'coming in 2024'

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guygardner73

Lol

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rickster2611

Lovely... all that speed and still no brakes...

Project Ion..here we come.

BlackBerry...Get it done!!! ©

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NursingNinja

I hope that they phase out 2g and 3G by then

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goku_vegeta

2G is being phased out, by 2017, it should be mostly phased out at least in North America. I think 3G will last longer though.

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Prem WatsApp

They promised that for 2010 in Europe, way back... in the early days of 3G

Not gonna happen for a while, too may still on flip phones and feature phones, at least here in Australia

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Yoshimitsu

Damm! 4G is already better than my wi-fi i guess 5G is gonna be a beast!

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LeroyP09

Video upload in 10 second or so. 1000 times faster than 4G. Hence 5G, 1k greater

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ErnstMach

And here I was thinking that "long term evolution" meant that we'd be sticking with 4G for a while lol

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uberfunk

This is cool but unless you work for a company that pays for all of your phone services I can still only use 2 gigs of data on my plan and LTE has taken it's time coming to in my area. Hopefully North America in general adopt this quick when the time comes.

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Puz_zled

True. Unless capacity is unconstrained, there isn't much point reaching your data limit in a tenth the time.

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Sure we are paying for all the growth in speed with a (of course time-/technology adjusted) decrease in data allowance, someone's gonna pay for it somehow...

Any other ideas?

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uberfunk

Not sure to be honest. But I'd happy with them investing in expanding the LTE networks and not necessarily putting so much into new technology. LTE is already quite fast as it is. So it would be cool to stream youtube (as an example) in HD for more than 10 minutes or whatever before the plans data gets chewed up. Basically stop spending so much on r&d so they don't have to charge us so much. Sounds crazy when I type it out actually, haha.

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Prem WatsApp

Good points. LTE is pretty fast as it is.

How much does anyone want drive up pixel count on videos and bitrate on music, so these faster speeds are required? I know, 4K screens are becoming mainstream, now 1080p is standard, but on a phone? Video-on-demand for the home movie experience will probably not be powered over the mobile network anytime soon, at least not as a mainstream solution.

As you mentioned, I'd rather see an expansion into the third dimension (larger area covered, also more users covered) than into the fourth (time to download content decreased - for the few that have access in a limited area).

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uberfunk

Now I'm probably wrong all over the place with this but if someone did want to stream 4k, isn't it "only" 20mbps or something? I think most carriers advertise 75-150mbps with LTE. Though I'd be surprised if anyone actually got those speeds. But if they did, 4k still might not be that big of a deal. But that's just me using Google and basic math, haha. I'd think most people might get around 20-30mbps if I had to guess real world numbers. Definitely correct me if I'm wrong though!

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uberfunk

So I decided to potentially use a good chunk of my data use that speed test thing. Not very scientific I know but it whatever, haha. Anyway, for one it said I was in Montreal when I'm 45 minutes outside of Halifax. I have decent LTE signal out here and I had a ping of 273. Then an average of 5.7mbps for incoming and 6 outgoing. Guess 4k is out of the question for me! Has anyone else tried this?

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falkalak

Good news!
PS. Neelie Kroes is a highly appreciated EU commissioner, and she's a women :)

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Mike_Luchia

Cool, that means TELUS should have 5G by about 2128 then!

webber27

Oh no. They'll upgrade to it right away, then lower your data allowance so that you burn through it faster than ever and have to upgrade to their newest "$200 for 4GB" plan or something.

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Harrison Cole

We don't technically even have 4G yet. We should work on getting that

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tayl0rd

Technology is NEVER fully utilized before it's tossed out for the next "best" thing. For instance, 100mbps routers and network cards are still viable devices for home internet service in the States because the fastest service we can get IS 100mbps until Google fiber becomes widely available. Yet you'd be hard pressed to find a [new] consumer router/network card these days less than 1gbps, and 10gbps routers and cards are starting to hit the market now, too.

miguel89to

Oh USA, slowly you are becoming like z Britain in the 19th century...old and obsolete..

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toppatoptobz

4G runs sweet on my BlackBerry Z30 but 5G would surely bring it up another level.

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martinjdub

Not excited until I know what 5G has to offer...right now it offers winged unicorns and eatable rainbows.

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Writer5

Fuck the "eu"

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the cnut

I'm all for investment but what about making 4G available right across the country and do away with fibre optic? I just hope we get the balance between spreading 4g and bringing about 5g

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raino

"Are you as excited as us about the upcoming 5G standard?"

Only if it doesn't result in further fragmentation of global spectrum deployment...although looking at history, the trend has always favored fragmentation (4 GSM bands-->multiple UMTS bands-->even more LTE bands being used.)

xiaohuaxing

Wtf is 5g when the current 4g doesn't even achieve the technical standard for 4g?

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Nayalm

+1

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Xandrex_BSCF

Because using theory to design a new protocol takes several years for each partner. Then you have to make all the partners to jontly jointly decide on the universal specification (takes years too).
And then you have to match those wonderful ideas on paper with what cellular antenna manufacturers and other ICT experts (like phone manufacturers including Qualcomm and other SoC makers) are able to do in real life with non-prohibitive pricing.
And then you have to see with each country's telecom regulator to make them establish rules and bandwidth ownership.

And at last when all that is done, you have to decide who starts, how and where. And then the "when" is decided .

4G had been in the pipes for nearly a dozen years already.

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bigr3n

This is so far off and 4G isn't in a lot of places yet... technology just keeps on moving. I wonder what smart phones/ phablets will have to offer when this 5G surfaces.

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Yeah, oh battery life....

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todparsons

Nice to know the UK will be quick on the deployment of 5G :)

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mas.quemex

Is 5G a gigabit data network ?

Rootbrian

It's HSPA+ OR LTE. I find it to be a marketing gimmick.

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CaptainKinship

On the train from Glasgow to Edinburgh the majority of the signal I get is 2G or none at all. This is between Scotland's two largest cities. Why are 5G technologies being set for implementation when so many of us still don't even see full (i.e. non-urban) coverage for the old stuff?

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viennabb

Because if you're not in a metropolitan area, they don't care.

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barney009

Exactly. Outside of London I get 3G and if you go to the countryside you're lucky to get a signal at all! They really need to be pushing 4G across the whole country not just in major cities.

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Taren Capel

Fuck yes. Very excited.

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Sorg644

2020??? Thought would be sooner. Hmmm

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BCITMike

Diminishing returns. Higher frequency does not work well for cellular.

Good for vendors to sell higher density base stations.

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Konrad Andree Nordvik

"The South Korean manufacturer mentioned that it found a way to transmit large volumes of data using a much higher frequency band." What's new about that? Any electronics engineer knows that with higher frequencies you can transmit more information! With higher frequencies the shorter the range and the more sensitivity problems you will have.

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Rootbrian

So they're skipping 4G (aka 3G+/HSPA+) and going 5G (LTE/HSPA++), MEH, it's not going to be any different. Just marketing, clever, and gimmicks. I wouldn't be surprised if the data speeds were the same as other LTE's.

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cia_man

I think it is too early for 5G... 4G isn't really arrived now :( many people still only can use 3G or 2G -_-

JonCBK

I'm not too worried about added costs based on added data consumption. The networks are going to price the service at the most they can charge for the value they deliver. So if they deliver more value then they will charge more. And if they don't give you more value you won't pay them more. And also, I suspect, the Internet and telecommunications will have their prices regulated much like the electric companies by 2020 anyway.

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nataprawira

Whats 4G? Now 5G? Eeeuuuwww... whatever.... :D

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Tobster619

Didn't the UK & Germany already announce a collaboration for 5G earlier this year?:)

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