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Posted by bbqsanchez Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

hahahahahahahahahahahaha finallyyyyyy for what is worth ..FIRST!!!!!!!! 111111111111.

IM BEING A DOUCH I KNOW I KNOW

 
 
Posted by exzibit3 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

Better listen up RIMM, developers are the ones who are going to make or break the company. The mobile and tablet consumer market demands quality apps, not just games, and to think otherwise is yet another nail in the RIMM coffin. Give them the tools and support they need and they will produce the goods, the consumer will respond and you will get your sales.

And yes bbqsanchez, good that you recognise that you are one.

 
 
Posted by advcomputer Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

I just sent an email to alec.saunders@rim.com and so should everyone else here on the crackberry.

Maybe it's the only way RIMM will understand that "it's developers that matter stupid"

Just my 2 cents.

-Jeff

 
 
Posted by Jake Storm Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

No. A select few articulate people who actually know what they are talking about should send him an email.
I guarantee you he's not going to even try sifting through hundreds of hate mail if we all flood his in-box.

Next time keep your 2 cents. You could be doing more harm than good.

 
 
Posted by blackmoe Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

+1

 
 
Posted by psarhj Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

It's not developers, not really.

The key is to see your users as your customers, rather than carriers, partners, OEMs or developers. Develop a platform that gives users what they want in terms of experience and makes it easy to develop apps that are appealing to use. Build the user base, and the developers will follow.

Microsoft marketed Windows Mobile as a developer-friendly platform and it failed because it concentrated on making things easy for devs at the expense of the user experience.

Admittedly this is a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem: you need users to attract developers, and you need developers to build apps to attract users to the platform. The PlayBook is a good start, though RIM crippling the platform such that users avoid it doesn't instill developer confidence.

In that sense, the PlayBook wasn't really built for end-users: it was built for RIM's convenience. To their credit I think they've learned since then.

 
 
Posted by skxj Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

"Seriously, someone needs to be fired over the power button... "

+1,000

I just about threw mine against the wall.................

 
 
Posted by exzibit3 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

+infinity. There are people in the forums still trying to defend the button design. It's an awful design, there is no tactile feedback, and the response time to boot up is sufficiently slow that my button has been mashed unnecessarily. But back on topic.

 
 
Posted by JasonGallagher Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Really? Infinity? I got my playbook in late September and I believe it was one of the updated models with a less-recessed power button, but even with it being easier to push than the first batch, I've used it maybe twice in two months? I don't understand the hoopla over a button that's rarely if ever used.

From the homescreen you can power off, sleep, or restart in two taps. TWO TAPS. I use this daily and its easy as sh*. Is that too much for people? Is that cause for backlash or even comment?

Lets focus on better apps, more apps, bug fixes with keyboard and app-crashing, more accessories (HDMI/Power dock for TV, OEM Keyboard, etc). These are the items that will hurt RIM and not the depth of a rarely if ever used f*ing power button.

 
 
Posted by mikegcox Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

I have had 4 playbooks - Bought 3 for staff and one RMA, the power button was fine on two of them so it seems they did fix that issue.

 
 
Posted by Superfly_FR Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Yes, on mine (French distrib ?) the power button works so nice I don't consider anymore soft power alternative, unless for restart. [FYI, sorry for the out of topic]

 
 
Posted by psarhj Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

The power button isn't really so bad. For one, it's not often you need to use it, and it'd be completely obviated if RIM added a multi-finger swipe-down-to-sleep gesture.

It's really no worse than the power button on the iPad, which is also difficult to locate and use.

Now, the lack of system-wide autocorrect/autotext, that's something someone should be fired over.

 
 
Posted by Mathrin Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

I am glad to hear that the development of app for the playbook are not as bad as people would like you to believe. I think that it is in RIM's best interest to keep on top of devs who are doing the work now because it will only benefit the smartphone market for the qnx phones when they come out. I can't imagine that the difference between the playbook and new blackberries will be that drastically different. I think that rim has a great place to put its foot down and set themselves up for a great launch with blackberry hosting a new os. Let's see if they do the right thing and support all developers regardless of size.

 
 
Posted by supraking Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

Glad to hear you sharing your story, hopefully other devs do the same! RIM has surely been making big strides to help you guys, but I think this is uncharted territory for them, so feedback from the developers is so important.

Email Alec! Tell him your story! And ask him about your problem, I'm sure he'll find someone to address it (when you show him this post).

alec.saunders@rim.com

 
 
Posted by HabsSuck Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

alec.saunders@rim.com, send him an email

 
 
Posted by Jake Storm Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

... if you have something constructive to share with him.
He's the VP of Developer Relations.
It's not going to help developers if he's stuck at his desk, staring at an inbox with 1000+ email saying "hey fix the power button".

 
 
Posted by Darlaten Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

That was well worth reading. I appreciate the honesty, humor, and the information on what I, for one, have less than zero knowledge about. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, at the lack of RIM support/comments to your questions. I think it's been painfully clear to just about everyone that RIM, to be blunt, sucks in this area. But, having watched DevCon, I am hoping that the lack of developer support will be in the past and RIM has learned, recognized, that they need to sharpen up and embrace developers - both for the Playbook and for their phones - if they are ever to succeed in remaining viable as a company. Oh, and as aside, if the game ever does make its way to the Playbook, I'll eagerly give you my money. Happy to support any developers - except a certain book "developer" that is - when I see them support the Playbook. :)

 
 
Posted by mundo472 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

LD has done some of the best games for BB so it's great news he's looking at the PB. Long Live The Indie Developer!!!!!!

 
 
Posted by Malachi.2.15 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

looking forward to when the game hits the streets! i enjoyed it on my storm 2...loved it on my 9930...and know that the playbook version is going to ROCK!!!

thanks!

 
 
Posted by willtothewong Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

great post.

i hope more devs come to the qnx platform.

more devs means potential more quality apps

 
 
Posted by rapsball4 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

Sounds about what I've encountered. I haven't done much - just a crappy AIR app that got me a free PlayBook that's actually finished at this point - but a big part of the reason was that I was waiting for the NDK. I don't really need it for the power of it, but I'm more familiar with C++ so I thought that would be a good start. After months of waiting, I tried it out. Tools look great, but documentation is useless. The documentation for the AIR SDK was pretty good: generally I could find anything I need. But NDK documentation was useless. After getting nowhere with it, now I'm trying out WebWorks and it is somewhere in between on the documentation front: I can find a lot of what I need, but not all of it. Some day I'll get back to the NDK when I try something more intense but it wasn't worth the hassle for now.

 
 
Posted by Xerxes10 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

Thanks for taking the time to share your experience developing for the PlayBook, as you said, it's a great piece of hardware (yes, except for the idiotic power button) and the OS is great too. I hope RIM gets back to you and provides the documentation & support that developers need so RIM can jumpstart the PlayBook and be ready to have some apps for a BBX phone. I'll keep my eyes open for Tank Recon on the PB!

 
 
Posted by Jimcmf Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

I never use my power button. What for. I always leave it on.

 
 
Posted by BaconMunch Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

This story is more telling than alot of RIM's own developer stories series...let's hope RIM does more than provide the tools but sets some individuals aside to walk with the developers!

 
 
Posted by vzwdavid Monday, Nov 07, 2011 198 days ago

Yeah I thoroughly enjoyed reading this story about this games development and I feel like the statement about RIM not responding to his question pretty much sums up how I feel they are treating the playbook. I bought one day one for my wife and don't get me wrong I am a hardcore gadget guy but every day I look and see that playbook collecting dust and think why did I ever buy this thing because RIM is not taking advantage of this amazing piece of equipment and not getting smaller developers on board to make the super cool apps we have all come to know and love.

The homebrew and smaller developers are the ones with the freshest games and apps... take Rovio for instance as proof of that.... and what is totally a shame is that in the small app development I am seeing more movement with the Palm TouchPad which is really sad since technically it is a dead piece of hardware.

 
 
Posted by Concession Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Oh that's cool. I remember first playing both Wrath and Tank Recon 3D on my nexus one well over a year ago.

I really hope you can get help with your problem, I'd love to blow up some tanks on a bigger screen :)

 
 
Posted by zensen Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Enjoyed reading this and hopefully RIM works on those negatives you pointed out. Looks like what RIM has created is a good thing and just needs to be tweaked a little

 
 
Posted by guerllamo7 Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Thanks for posting this. It helps us understand what developers go through. I like where RIM is going but a bit of fine-tunning is needed.

Keep working at it RIM, it seems the big pieces are in place now for the detail.

 
 
Posted by sk8er_tor Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Nicely said.

 
 
Posted by se1000 Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
Posted by koolrosh Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Do Not Worry!
Blackberry will rise again!

 
 
Posted by 19GhostRider71 Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 198 days ago

Why is RIM sitting on their hands and not helping out the smaller developers?
I have a PB and think it will be the killer tablet once they get OS 2.0 on it and then get the apps on board.
However you can't build a community of developers if you don't work with them to get through the issues that are blocking them to complete their work.

Most will lose interest and not finish their work if they don't get some kind of resolve to their issues.

Hey RIM,....does anyone at HQ read Crackberry? These are your faithful followers/users here!

Actions speak louder than words!

 
 
Posted by halifaxx11 Tuesday, Nov 08, 2011 197 days ago

Tank Recon is a really good game that I bought last year for my S2. I was just thinking the other day when they were going to have a version for the PB. I think that is a game that will work really well with it. Hope the developer finishes it. I'll buy it right away.