CrackBerry Podcast 088: Crying for BlackBerry

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By Kevin Michaluk on 29 Jun 2012 01:57 am EDT
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If you missed RIM's Live Webcast of their Q1 2013 Earnings Call, you can catch it right here along with CrackBerry commentary by me, Chris Umiastowski and Adam Zeis. Adam's newborn Cassidy even makes her podcast debut towards the end of the show, where she chimes in with some tears. Clearly, she's crying for BlackBerry knowing it will be 2013 before she gets her hands on a BlackBerry 10 phone.

Disclaimer: I called in from a hotel room with poor bandwidth for this one, so no video for me and there's quite a bit of audio dropping in and out. Apologies on that. Still worth a listen!

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CrackBerry Podcast 088: Crying for BlackBerry

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Following today's new after hearing about RIM "possibly" going with Windows 8 or even Android, i think thats a bad idea.

i think Amazon or Sony should buy RIM.

First lets look at Amazon, they have an ecosystem system that is second to Apple's. You think Amazon and only thing about retail, simple minded. Amazon has music, books, and videos to compete with Apple and Google Play, they have their own app store which is Android based which they could get developers to convert in order to work on BB10.

Sony also has an ecosystem, they are a huge company with bad management but they are not making any money from Android and their devices suck. They can buy RIM and base all their devices on BB10 like what Microsoft is currently doing. Sony can intergrade their gaming consoles with the mobile devices all on the same OS. they make Windows based computers, with android phones, tablets and their own OS on the Playstation consoles. Microsoft is trying to have all devices on the same OS and this would be a great way for Sony to do this also.

RIM needs an ecosystem. They will not benefit in the long run with Android and Windows 8 simply because they will have to compete with other OEMs to sell devices running the same OS. Look at HTC, Sony and LG to name a few. IF they go with Android they are competing with Samsung and if they go with Windows 8 they are competing with Samsung and Nokia.

Its either they continue with BB10, and i wish them all the best or they partner up with Amazon or another company that could provide them with an ecosystem or get bought out by either companies i stated.

They are crying for BlackBerry. Apparently crying for a 7.1 update too.

Sent from my playbook that I still love.

Now I guess I'm crying too.

Dear Canadians,

We have to support RIM until the very END. RIM has become a symbol of pride to every Canadian. I am a Canadian and I don't care if other companys are better than us in technology. I just care that our jobs in Canada depend on this company. If RIM stays alive then we will prosper as a nation. It's not about being faithful to a brand anymore. It's about being loyal to the Canadian flag. Backberry has become our flag of pride. If Blackberry dies, a BIG part of Canada will die too. I will be ashamed to be a Canadian if Blackberry goes under. Everyone in the world will think Canada is a technological ill country. They will think that Canada is not prosperous and we will not benefit from trade with them. I will support Blackberry to the very end. Now is the time to show RIM our support. My current phone is a Blackberry, and my next phone is still going to be a Blackberry.

Loyal Canadian

I'm not Canadian but I can understand your frustration. I was/am/will be a hardcore blackberry supporter as I know how RIM revolutionised the smart phone market and they will do it again with BB10. Couple of months more will not kill me. OS7 9900 are good enough and don't mind waiting till BB10. I keep saying this in all my posts : RIMPIRE will strike back. Just a matter of time. Period.
BTW I'm from India.
Cheers.

In terms of jobs, I agree entirely. Canadian jobs will be cut until RIM gets their "shit" together by releasing BB10 to remain relevant, AND to have a solid product to convince the market of any competitive advantage it may still have, even if this means working as a niche product.

If BlackBerry goes under, I don't think it's a matter to be ashamed about. Companies go down and rise with the cycle. We are trying to fix our problems, but it may be more important to be pragmatic and come to our senses that it just might be beyond saving.

To put this in a different light, we have to think about opportunity costs. We shouldn't use just emotion but also consider our quality of life with what can be offered with the products available on the market to increase our productivity. There is no indication that if RIM stays a live that we will prosper as a nation. The company could get sold, taken apart, and with other possibilities depending on the welfare of the shareholders and management's view on the health of the company. To be cynical, this does sound like emotional blackmail.

Skeptical Canadian

Dear Canadians,

We have to support RIM until the very END. RIM has become a symbol of pride to every Canadian. I am a Canadian and I don't care if other companys are better than us in technology. I just care that our jobs in Canada depend on this company. If RIM stays alive then we will prosper as a nation. It's not about being faithful to a brand anymore. It's about being loyal to the Canadian flag. Backberry has become our flag of pride. If Blackberry dies, a BIG part of Canada will die too. I will be ashamed to be a Canadian if Blackberry goes under. Everyone in the world will think Canada is a technological ill country. They will think that Canada is not prosperous and we will not benefit from trade with them. I will support Blackberry to the very end. Now is the time to show RIM our support. My current phone is a Blackberry, and my next phone is still going to be a Blackberry.

Loyal Canadian

BB users south of the border are feeling it too. Many of us still respect a reliable and efficient mobile device.

Hang in there and the BB support here will do the same.

Kevin,
Hang in there and do NOT cut your hair!!!! I've said this before. If RIM goes away there is one less choice for consumers. Consume data is all the rage these days. I see it a bit differently.

With a BB I consume but I also communicate. I reach out with precision an poise. I communicate with out hesitation, knowing my words will travel. Remember, while others play we speak and speak well.

I'm happy that I cannot renew my contract for a year. It gives me time to enjoy what I have. I will not spend my time envying those that have, but I will enjoy what I love. I chose a Blackberry. It was my choice and I shall never look back. Only forward.

So RIM should not go away. It only leaves the world one less choice, and that's a bad thing.

I look forward to BB10 and remain positive.

Chin up and look forward. Carry on!

Wait, enjoy and appreciate what you have and be glad that you have it and be surprised when it's released! :)

funny thing my conatact ends is 2013 maybe blackerry relase 7.1 for people maybe that will hold us off i love blackberry thery just need to improve on battery life for real and updates realase the blackberry 9790 os 7.1 for rogers jezze

Instead of waiting forever for roDoGERS to release it, download the latest leaked 7.1.0.523 for the 9790 that crackberry blogged about! ;)

I'll listen to this tomorrow afternoon, download just completed over the mobile network @ 153-256 KBytes per second.

Goodnight/morning all. :)

This just makes me sad. I'm a BlackBerry die hard fan, but I'm sorry, I'm not willing to opt out of the advanced and current features that other platforms have to offer, when BB10 comes out (-if-), then I'll evaluate the possibility of going back, but right now, this, feels like a stab in the back, don't promise something and then change your mind because you can't handle something that's native to a company like RIM, they're held up by code flow? BS... Sorry RIM, I no longer believe in you, I still have passion for the brand, but you'll have a hard time winning me, and many, MANY others back.

SORRY, ITS NOT ABOUT CASH!! Its about TALENTS who can pull this off. But I seriously doubt now.

RIM had better hold on to all that cash cause with this delay no ones going to be lined up to get this. Maybe the 2nd generation will do well but the 1st will be a loss. I'm a die hard fan but even I'm looking at windows.

Remember, when the "Thor" was 1st brought on he said we MUST meet deadlines (specifically Playook 2.0 and BB10). And he articulated clearly the consequences of missing either. Sounds like the problems he was brought in to solve are still around.

Hey Thorsten, I'm sure you are sad that 5000 people are loosing their jobs while you try and save money.

Hey I just found a way for you to save $8,000,000 more. REDUCE YOUR WAGE!!

I'm sure you can live on only $2M a year for a while.

as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced

anyways :)

I've waited this long, I don't see why I can't a little longer. I mean I don't need a new phone every few months now.

There's still a good reason why I still use my blackberry.

On a positive note, a few more months to perfect it and get it right.

yeap keep up that pathetic excuse, RIM it just an other company that will be left behind, cuz they missed the chance to innovate in time.

lol... alright dude. yeah there's hardly any room for innovation in the mobile industry. I'll keep that one in mind.

someone probably said the same thing 6 years ago. whether RIM has the people to do so remains to be seen.

Time to move on. It's truly a shame but for those of you thinking that RIM will get out of this mess are living in fantasy land. They aren't going to make it and the RIM that you and I know is dead. I've been with them since 2005 and I'm really sad to see it this way, but they are to blame and they alone. Poor leadership and a refusal to adapt to the market have cause this. While I feel bad for us as consumers I don't have any pity for RIM. They sat on their hands too long and contunued to churn out subpar smartphones for years and it has ruined them.

As at BBWC. I suspect that his job has changed from baptizing babies to burying the congregation. By his tone he knows it, having previously thought he could pull off the turnaround.

I'd guess BB10 is simply not coming together and the integration is no longer considered feasible. So whatever happens next will happen in the next 6-9 months. Could be anything from W8 to acquisition to breakup. No clue.

yeah any confidence before this is pretty much shaken now with this delay especially if you go hopping around the blogs and reading the comments - a little more ammunition for those who like to see RIM come crashing down.

people have no idea there are new BB phones coming out...so just pushing it to Q1 2013 will only depress the blackberry fan base, the rest of the world thinks RIM died a long time ago.

So they should release a few phones to bloggers, techies in the media etc.....hopefully to keep the masses salivating til Q1 2013. Or they can at least start advertising the phone Q4 this year....

I have an android phone right now and even though I can do everything it is a chaotic experience compared to the playbook and I would jump ship in a heartbeat to bb10.

Their next release is the Playbook II, hopefully they align production and sales expections so they can breakeven while they await Skype (4G ain't going to help here). It's a crap shoot whether they are beat on BB 10, hard to tell. We want to believe they are only delayed, but it stands to reason that if QNX was BB 10 Lite, what's the big deal in creating a workable BB 10?

this podcast is painful, not because of the news, just the call quality from kevin, background noises etc. you all in the podcast were complaining how RIM wasn't prepared for their call, you guys weren't prepared for your podcast...

I'm not going to jump on trolls anymore..I have nothing to go agaisnt them. Ugh why did this have to happen

All we hear from Research In Motion is excuse after excuse. The ship is taking on water, the orchestra plays to keep up morale, meanwhile in the distance a raging storm approaches and the ship cannot get out of the way. Thorsten said no more excuses and no more delays when he took over as chief executive officer. Apparently, he took a chapter from the Mike and Jim playbook because the webcast proves the same tired failed policies of the previous administration continue.

I'm not due for a upgrade on my 9860 till June 2013 (which is a rock solid device) sure hope the bb10 with a physical keyboard shows up also!