CrackBerry Live tomorrow at 11am EST w/ special guest, Chris Wade - talking DingleBerry and PlayBook rooting

CrackBerry Live Podcast
By Kevin Michaluk on 30 Nov 2011 03:46 pm EST
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The blog post title says it all on this one folks. Tomorrow at 11am EST we'll be firing things up for another CrackBerry podcast. You'll be able to watch it live here on the blogs, but if you can't make it, we'll bring you the video replay soon after.

We'll be kicking things off with the topic of DingleBerry and rooting the PlayBook. We showed you the video evidence of root access being gained on the PlayBook, and joining us tomorrow will be Chris Wade, who is one of the three individuals working on the DingleBerry tool that, when released, promises to give PlayBook owners a lot more control over their BlackBerry tablets.

PlayBook root access is obviously a hot topic for Research In Motion, which is a company that touts security as one of its fundamentals. Though as Chris told the Globe and Mail, "This is the Mack truck of exploits, it's a huge hole in the PlayBook - it's one that RIM should have known about and should have fixed and it's sort of a joke that RIM ... somehow managed to get certification from the government." RIM has already responded with a statement on this one, so it's going to be interesting to see how things pan out. One thing is for sure... you won't want to miss this podcast!

35 comments

lengend

Sweet! I will be up to watch it!

greatwiseone

well, what was the effect of the root on bridge? I think RIM managed to get government certification because of the bridge structure.

lnichols

The FIPS certification does not guarantee the box is not exploitable. I've worked with many FIPS approved devices where huge security issues are discovered and the vendor has to fix it and resubmit the fixed code. The testing is really the crypto module and boundaries. So if they exploit this and could get to encrypted data on the device and decrypt it then that would be an issue. Turning an LED on/of and changing the color does not imply that the data on the device is compromised. I'm interested to hear what else they can do with the "root" other than LED's and loading android apps

rcheung135

Thanks for explaining!

dcburke789

That's exactly what I was thinking...

Maybe Mack Trucks run fairly small where he comes from :D

balding1

Looks like the circus is in town.

dsquared2

Who would want to download some guy's software and install it on their computer AND their tablet????? Not me!

EchoTango

I find it intriguing that certain enterprising folks take the time to "crack" these devices. I am of two minds whether this type of activity is moral or not. I fully understand the need companies have to protect their investments and have a right to take action when that revenue stream is threatened.

On the other hand, once you purchase the product you expect a certain privacy or freedom to use the product for any use you see fit. If you want to "break it" as a intellectual challenge and don't expect a warranty, then why not.

If you are aware of the current copyright laws and the pending Canadian bill (C32), you will know that the concept of "ownership" is currently being re-written. Just because you purchase a product, does not give you the right to use the product in any way you see fit. Most will recognize the "Terms of Use" agreements in most software products, but are you expecting to see this type of agreement when you buy a car or groceries ?

Well folks, get ready because it's coming......

ghostzapper

I'm trying to understand what the players are trying to gain from this podcast, CrackBerry for hosting and Chris Wade for being a guest.

123berryaddicted

They want crackberry nation to login to crackberry.com and click on links.... Duuuuhh! Lol

mikegcox

Exactly, so lets punish them by not returning to this site. It is looking more and more like the fearless leader of CB Nation has an axe to grind.

Jimcmf

All he did was turn lights on and off. Show us something good, like pull data from it, or gain full control. What he did was no big deal.

BTW - He is a very poor speaker. They need to get someone who has authority in their voice when they speak. - Like Kevin CrackBerry.

HabsSuck

how is compromising your own device a mack truck of exploit? maybe if they can hack Kevin's playbook remotely then that would be news

HofstraJet

I agree - I don't see how rooting is a security issue unless they can access a locked PB or a bridged locked BB. If all you can access is data which is already unlocked, what have you really accomplished?

PS - LOVE your name!!! That's awesome.

maddie1128

RIM really doesn't need this BS right now and frankly I don't understand why we (as Crackberry) would want to be a part of helping give them more bad publicity!

ghostzapper

Bingo!

Kevin is hedging his bets. Just in case.

IMO so many podcasts come across as if the participants are sitting around a bong.

WillieLee

I don't see why Crackberry is giving these guya the press.

tumer

thats right why is kevin giving this guy the spot light he is a criminal he should not be giving the time i am disapointed that this guy was giving the spotlight

joski

I've heard this referred to as "rooted" (Android) or "jailbroken" (iOS). Whatever it gets decided on to be called, doesn't dispute the fact that this "exploit" is pretty much useless. It's like back in the day when you had to convince someone to download the convincingly renamed Sub7 client, you open their CD tray, and the next day you're a hacker.

Regardless, it seems pretty useless, and I'm with the others wondering why Kevin is giving it any airtime. It seems like no one knows what to expect from the douchely-named "DingleBerry" app, but I have a feeling it's going to sizzle like fart.

HabsSuck

me too, don't do it Kevin otherwise i may have to change my name to KevinSucks.

infinus

What if RIM gonna do what SONY did to GeoHotz?
Isn't is bit risky....
I don't believe in exploits...
They help 0.1% and for rest its just way to get pirated apps/ games...
But RIM shouldn't bother...
They don't have any apps...

rcheung135

I'm confident in Kevin to give us the real deal. He's objective and does an awesome job as the #1 BB fanboy.

Chris Wade is based in Melbourne, Australia no?

martinjdub

maybe they can fix Kev's bricked 9900?

world traveler and former ceo

Seriously .. Kevin needs to get a new job if this is what he wastes his time on

... Kevin, why not spend more time telling us about what is coming in 2.0 of Playbook ?... that would be noteworthy! ... giving props to this group is a waste of time!!

ayekon

Hopefully RIM takes as much time to patch this as it's taken for my Playbook to real attain 2.0...
Then i'll be able to do this to my London Surfboard also...
Really, really, really, hoping a dev uses this exploit to make a dock...

Besides, if you read up on QNX, you'd realize that the integrity of the tablet hasn't been compromised, just a portion of it...
It is still secure

Style + Playbook 64gb

ayekon

Oh yea... Laying money on the exploit being an SSH session as root with Blackberry as the password... Or something similar =)

Style + Playbook 64gb

congz

Seriously? Kevin, how about some more important news. Like the progress of BBX/playbook 2.0 OS, new device leaks for 2012 and such?

Besides, security is not compromised because the user actually has to root his OWN playbook. Which means as long as I don't mess around I'm 100% safe.

q649

So in your view, Kevin is ignoring other important news about "the progress of BBX/playbook 2.0 OS, new device leaks for 2012 and such"?

So let's have it, what's the more important news?

Kevin is reporting on a news story involving BlackBerry, and is going to interview one of the three people claiming to have hacked the PlayBook. To me, this is pretty big news.

And if the PlayBook can be rooted, isn't it possible to physically steal someone's PlayBook and bypass a user password lock?

Cpt.GargameL

Wow, do some of you want cheese your your wine? What was shown in the video doesn't showcase any potential harm in data decryption. What you see is what the "root" is. Nothing to cry about really, oh and let's just say if the Playbook were to be "rooted" to the likes of an Android device I'm pretty sure there would be a sh!tload of us users still using the PB. BB or PB rooted or not I'll stick to my BB regardless. The only thing the jailbraking community does is open up possibilities which were already there, we just have certain limitations. If nothing illegal is beeing done than why worry or have hissy fits over something that can benefit us all in many ways? Remember, we all have the option to root an already rooted device if we choose to. So let's stop crying over petty sh!t. :) (as long as piracy isn't condoned I'm all for this) let's unleash the beast within the PB! Lol

WillieLee

Passive-aggressive much? We're part of the Crackberry community and are voicing our displeasure at giving more attention to a guy who is running around saying he cracked RIM's security when all he's shown is a video of some command line functions that change the brightness and browser ID.

He's feeding into a negative press idea over RIM by suggesting he's gotten access to the encrypted areas of the OS. We have enough stupidity floating around about RIM and some of us don't care to see more of it. The only one whining is you.

Cpt.GargameL

Passive-aggressiveness? No. I understand completely where you're coming from. My response just shows optimism in the idea of welcoming new/extra functions within the PB. Now if you read again you will see that I am not whining. I guess my idgaf attitude comes off as it lmfao

I agree with your second paragraph's first sentence though.

maddie1128

My point is, whether it is a real security risk or not- everyone is perceiving it as one. And those that wish to see another nail in the so-called coffin of RIM are gleefully extolling on this! Ex:http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/30/research-in-motions-new-os-isnt-secure-any....
I personally don't think it is the security risk that these guys and others would want you to believe- but by the same token- I don't want to be part of giving these guys credit for doing this. That is just my opinion. There will always be hackers-should we be patting them on the back.
Get that patch out there RIM!

And Willie-kudos- I couldn't say it better myself!

mikegcox

BGR only posts the negative, they did not even mention the latest handset releases as far as I know. I stopped going there regularly and only glance at their RSS feed now. CrackBerry is nearly as bad, actually, CrakBerry Kevin is nearly as bad as BGR.