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Posted by bek816 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

Hey, the weather in Winnipeg is awesome now. :) I was tempted to leave my winter jacket at home this morning!

You listed one of the reasons not to switch as: "You want to port your number from your current carrier."

Why can't you port your number over?

 
 
Posted by j2hyphon Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

Great article. Thank you!

 
 
Posted by jlb21 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

He said the system wasn't ready yet for porting.......

 
 
Posted by KMD17 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

Big ups to TORONTO!!!!! Home sweet home!
This article makes me want to call Rogers and tell them where to shove it.

 
 
Posted by linkkoriri Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

Is this only going to be in Toronto for now? Like how Fido was only Toronto, Ottawa, etc... I'm smack dab in the middle, Kingston, and I am unsure if I want it here yet ^_^. I would never switch myself, but I am a cell phone retailer and we probably wont have Wind and therefore take from our sales. Plus Ma Bell has been making a comeback lately, meanwhile Robbers Wireless has been doing the opposite.

For those who can get wind, I am sure they will do great! I am also curious... who did they get their towers from?

And on the Weather... Here in K-Town it is FRRRRRRREACKIN COLD!!! I hate winter -_-;;;;;

 
 
Posted by Zipper Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

I too am wondering where they are piggy backing cell towers from? I doubt they were big enough to have surplus for their own cell towers etc...unless I'm wrong?

 
 
Posted by luloo Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

So I have a question, Wind said they won't unlock their phones, but since it is a blackberry wouldn't a 3rd party company be able to unlock the phone or would Wind have some way to prevent unlocking overall somehow?

 
 
Posted by Zafeer Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 785 days ago

Yes 3rd party companies can unlock the phones. I have already unlocked mine and there is no prevention of unlocking from WIND.

If you need a wind phone unlocked, you can visit unlockit.ca and send a comment saying that you want to unlock one. It costs $20

 
 
Posted by davidnyc Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

Why would WIND lock their phones if they don't have a contract?

 
 
Posted by leafs123 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 786 days ago

they wouldn't work anyways on telus, bell or rogers...the bold 9700 for wind has aws bands which are not supported and will not work on the big 3 networks. it is a different model than the one being sold by the big 3

 
 
Posted by cyberstorm Friday, Dec 18, 2009 787 days ago

Under reasons why you SHOULDN'T switch to WIND yet should be: YOU LIVE IN AN AWAY ZONE!!!

Any call you make in an AWAY zone costs your 25¢ a minute!! Ouch.

 
 
Posted by azntallie101 Friday, Dec 18, 2009 786 days ago

I think I read an earlier article, that said their backup towers would be piggy backing off of rogers/fido? I dono if that's at all helpful haha

 
 
Posted by AngryChineseDriver Friday, Dec 18, 2009 786 days ago

Hey guys,

Just to clear up a couple things:

1) The WIND team is all trained and ready to port numbers, but they claim it's an issue with Rogellus disallowing it.

2) They cannot unlock your phone because of "Canadian copyright issues", or else they would have followed through with the plan. However, they have zero issue with you bringing in unlocked phones.

3) Coverage is limited, of course, since it's a brand new network. If you sign up now, you better be in Calgary or GTA/Hamilton, and expect some network issues here and there!

But the WIND team is very kind and supportive, so any issues you have should be resolved quickly and efficiently. I'm happy with my CrackBerry! :D

 
 
Posted by luloo Friday, Dec 18, 2009 786 days ago

Thank you for the reply, just a couple of follow up questions. So on #2, they won't unlock the phone for you themselves but there is nothing stopping you from buying their BB 9700 from them with no contract and then unlocking it and using it with some other provider is there? Is there a way for WIND to stop anyone being able to unlock a BB any other way? I don't know too much about unlocking as I have a CDMA blackberry which can't be unlocked. Not too sure exactly how it works.

 
 
Posted by AngryChineseDriver Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 786 days ago

Just like Rogers back in the day (not anymore), WIND has nothing against unlocked phones or unlocking your WIND phone.

However, do keep in mind that their network is 1700mhz Band IV, which is INCOMPATIBLE with other 3G networks.

Therefore, you CANNOT take ANY unlocked Bold 9700 (other than from T-Mobile which runs on the same network) to use on WIND. Using an unlocked WIND/T-Mo Bold 9700 on any other network gives you only 2G EDGE.

That's why WIND would have unlocked their phones if they were allowed to.

P.S. Your CDMA BlackBerry won't work at all, WIND uses sim-cards.

 
 
Posted by luloo Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 786 days ago

Awesome, thanks. I was planning on buying the Wind 9700 for $450 and then unlocking it and using it on my bell contract but it doesn't seem like that would work. Thanks for the help, now only if I wasn't stuck in a contract I may consider moving to Wind.

 
 
Posted by Zafeer Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 785 days ago

It actually might work... according to the wind website, it supports all the aws and the gsm frequencies and the wind reps said that the phone is backward compatible. I have unlocked my WIND phone so I am going to try it with my brothers rogers sim card and will let you know if it works. If the rogers network works in the WIND 9700, you can get a sim card from telus and it will work aswell.

 
 
Posted by Matt555 Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 786 days ago

One thing that would detour me from going to WIND would be the fact that when you leave Toronto (home coverage) you roam onto ROGERs EDGE network @ $.25/min.

I guess if you never leave Toronto, and have a few hundred dollars to drop on a phone and want regular HSPA over HSPA+ WIND works for you. In the mean time, Ill stick to having my cell phone company giving me my phones for free and actually working other parts of Canada.

 
 
Posted by Zafeer Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 785 days ago

The launch has just happened in calgary and I went and picked up a 9700. They stated that they couldn't switch over my number until monday because of some technical issues. They did however give me a temporary number to use until the switch can be made. I tested the sim card in my unlocked 9700 and iPhone and it works on both but only on the EDGE network and it states that it is connected to WIND Away. I also managed to unlock my WIND 9700 but havent yet tested it on the rogers network. I will check it out and post back.

 
 
Posted by AngryChineseDriver Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 785 days ago

Just go out of Home Zone coverage and you'll be roaming on Rogers. Beware, you'll get charged!

Plus, roaming is slow as hell because you're just on 2G EDGE!

Btw, where did you get your BB unlocked so far? I didn't know there were unlocking sites already offering service for WIND BBs.

 
 
Posted by Zafeer Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 785 days ago

The phone is on EDGE even when I am in the home zone because of the unlocked phone it only works on their EDGE (away) network.
I unlocked it myself... you can go to my website http://unlockit.ca and send me a comment. Im unlocking them for $20.

 
 
Posted by Zafeer Monday, Dec 21, 2009 783 days ago

So after testing everything, it seems to be exactly what people thought would be true... When you unlock a rogers phone (in this case i used an iPhone), you will get reception but only on the EDGE network (WIND Away). When you unlock a WIND phone (my 9700), It will work with rogers but again, only on the EDGE network. I was surprised to see when I put my Rogers sim card in the WIND phone and manually searched for networks, it found a 3G network (302-something) although when I tried to connect, it only allows emergency calls.

 
 
Posted by BoldBigWorm Tuesday, Dec 22, 2009 783 days ago

Blackberry 9700. It cannot send or receive pins or BBM when in "away zone". Wi-Fi only works if you purchace 35 dollars package its is disabled.

 
 
Posted by adiaccounting Friday, Mar 26, 2010 689 days ago

Some updates and confirmations, there is no activation fee, Unlimited text is available for just $5 per month, WIND will not be unlocking any devices as this contravenes Canadian copyright issues. I drive my own online accounting business and use blackberry for my business. It is amazing to work with it.