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Posted by Malachi.2.15 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

No LTE :(

(I know that was the expectation...but I was hoping for a surprise.)

I may be sticking with my storm 2 until the LTE/QNX phones show up (hopefully soon).

 
 
Posted by Joe257 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Really? I suppose if you can wait, then wait. I can't. I have a Storm 1 that is totally out of memory. I can't install or upgrade anymore apps, not even the latest App World. I can't upgrade any existing apps either because, with only 128 MB of RAM, there is no room! All the new apps are over 1 MB compared with 3 years ago when apps were 100-300 KB.

Personally, I hope RIM releases the new QNX superphones in May 2012, but based on past history, they may be late too.

I really think RIM needs to revisit how they announce and release new products. First look at consumer habits then market around them. Announcing new stuff in April (BlackBerry World) for a May launch is probably okay since June is graduation for most teens. However, DevCon is in September, a month past the Back-to-school shopping. That's okay if DevCon isn't used to announce new products. What about Christmas? November would be a good time to launch something new for the Christmas shoppers looking for gifts for families & teens.

 
 
Posted by chiefbroski Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 266 days ago

Amen on the Storm 1 comments. +1 Bro.

 
 
Posted by gord888 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

LTE + evil carriers = suckage

 
 
Posted by kbeard26 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

A price would have been nice.

 
 
Posted by camera531 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

A release date would've been REALLY nice!!

 
 
Posted by Underway99 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Wow. 9850 or 9930. This could be a tough choice!

 
 
Posted by wize00 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

So, will they both have physical buttons?

 
 
Posted by westex74 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

It has been reported that the GSM version (AT&T, T-Mo) will NOT have physical buttons. Only the CDMA version will.

 
 
Posted by wize00 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Then all pictures shows CDMA version? I leave in Europe and I don't want the physical buttons!!

 
 
Posted by Revyrah Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

All models will have the physical buttons. Go no further than the BlackBerry website to see this for yourself.

 
 
Posted by digitalhomeboy Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 293 days ago

Correction, I played with the 9860 which is the GSM version and it indeed had the physicsl buttons. Honestly it was a truly great experience and the physical buttons are a welcomed addition.

 
 
Posted by Revyrah Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 293 days ago

Not gonna lie, digitalhomeboy. I'm very envious. Quick question though... Did you at least have a solid escape plan with device in hand?

 
 
Posted by westex74 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

I'll be honest....this 9860 has drawn a little of my attention away from the 9900. Sure looks nice. Wish it had a 4" screen and it would be perfect.

 
 
Posted by san4berry Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

no NFC, why would they release only the 9900 with NFC, (if that is the case)? why would they release one with physical raised buttons and one without. If that is the case, this company is really in trouble.

 
 
Posted by mista1der Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Still no news on whether or not this is coming to T-Mobile.

 
 
Posted by lnichols Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Bands 1,4, and 8 would make it a T-Mobile and/or WIND device. I would guess that both will be carrying it, especially since AT&T is only going to carry the 9810 in August.

 
 
Posted by jdzurka Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

No thanks ... after the Storm 2 piece of junk I think I am going to the IPhone 5 in October. I dont want to be stuck with another paper weight for 2 years and at least I know with the iPhone I can get apps for it. By By Blackberry you will go away just like Palm

 
 
Posted by wize00 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

That's not a nice comment.... I also jumped to andriod (SGS2) and, even if it's a beast of a phone, I'm missing BB but I was waiting for a good looking device as I care about design.. The 9850 looks really beautifull and I'm considering buying it whenever it will come in Europe.. Ok, maybe I will wait to see how the iPhone looks like... Just in case....I'm pissed off to constantly recharge my G2!! My Torch battery use to last forever..

 
 
Posted by sk8er_tor Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Don't let him fool you. I'm starting to think that these trolls are paid by Apple to come on here and crap on all BlackBerry devices. They're scum.

 
 
Posted by camera531 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

I second that

 
 
Posted by walliedirt Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Yup I'm sure your right.

 
 
Posted by pccdromaw Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

@ jdzurka.... I do not think you will be missed with that kind of attitude.
Goodbye.

 
 
Posted by bbeezy Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

BB go away like palm? i HIGHLY doubt it. YOU, however, do us all big favor and please DO go away and DONT come back. pick you up an i-tampon while youre at it. it shouldnt be too hard to go ahead and delete your cb profile before you log out of here. i wouldnt you to have a reason to come back and troll stroll once youve gotten your bite of rotten, recycled apple.

 
 
Posted by WILLSaDICKted Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Will- Apps? I honestly think when apps are mentioned, most are referring to games. What a sad world where the expectation of a phone is to be a gaming system. Does your iPhone have full flash capability? I think not. If you want an amazing "SMART" Phone then BlackBerry is the only option. If you want a game system with a phone built in that pisses off your girlfriend thus denying you the ever important booty, then yeah, get a droid or an iPhone...I have been to the other side, not worth the move.

 
 
Posted by digitalhomeboy Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 293 days ago

I'll agree with you on the Storm 1&2 both not being the best devices RIM put out hell even RIM acknowledged that, but Apple will shit on you harder when they stop support for the iPhone 5 when they release the iPhone 5S in their typical fashion. In terms of paper weight the new BB7 devices are awesome to hold, well built, and have little weight to complain about. If it's a multitude of apps you're after then sure the iPhone is great for that...that is if you want several choices of the same app that does the same thing with different names. BTW, it's "bye bye", not "by by"...clearly your bad attitude overweighed your need to spell check Apple fanboy!

 
 
Posted by skyscraper04 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

no NFC

 
 
Posted by mhhendricks Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

GSM standby time should say 11.6 days NOT 11.6 hours. That would TOTALLY be crappy!!

 
 
Posted by Marvin-13 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

sorry wrong person

 
 
Posted by Adam Zeis Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Fixed! And yes that would be pretty crappy :)

 
 
Posted by Revyrah Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Also the expandable memory is topped out at 32GB not 36. As per BlackBerry.com's info.

 
 
Posted by chi-town311 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

The website says GB because there is 4 built in. 34+4=36

What grade are you in? :)

 
 
Posted by axe50 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

LOL

What grade are YOU in? :)

34+4 = 36?

Hoping you meant 32+4 = 36...

 
 
Posted by chi-town311 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

haha - that is what I meant. 32 GB microSD card plus the 4 GB on board.

Man - do I look stupid.

 
 
Posted by Revyrah Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Yeah I'm concerned with your math and what language you were trying to speak. "It says GB..."

The point is that the on board memory is NOT expandable. Only the SD card is expandable and that being up to 32GB.

 
 
Posted by JMarshall123 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

when is this out!!!! i am a storm user because i like the bigger screen without the physical qwerty keyboard want this so bad not to fused about the 9900 any release date or predicted time of release, rumours, anything

 
 
Posted by camera531 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

3rd week of August for Sprint, early September for t-mobile. AT&T is looking like October. Verizon will only carry the 9900 and upcoming curve.

 
 
Posted by kbeard26 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

I hope you accidentally left off Verizon 9850 considering we've already seen Verizon branded 9850!

 
 
Posted by JMarshall123 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

great thanks

 
 
Posted by christian.logay Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Anyone know if AT&T is going to carry it? I currently use the Torch 9800 as my smartphone but the Torch 9860 is definatley worthy of an upgrade for me. Looking forward to OS7 and the size increase. This may be the "End-All" of smartphones for me.....until the next one that is.

 
 
Posted by digitalhomeboy Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 293 days ago

The 9860 is a sweet choice. Mind you, you will have to use a virtual keyboard which may slow you down coming from a physical keyboard especially if you have Fred Flintstone fingers like myself. The Bold 99XX has the best of the best keyboard to date, but the screen sitting at 2.8in felt a tad too small in some areas. you will however love the 3.7in screen on the 9860. Gorgeous.

 
 
Posted by bmmcpeek Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

I am a Storm 2 user and absolutely love my phone, cant wait to upgrade to this device. I just had a few questions I hope aren't to stupid. I am a Verizon customer so i know this is coming out soon but is this 4G?

 
 
Posted by Revyrah Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

It is labeled as 4G* meaning that it is capable of achieving significantly faster speeds than your average smartphone, however it is NOT LTE 4G.

 
 
Posted by Vinster78 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Great specs...However, no front facing camera?

 
 
Posted by sunyata Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

One of the ugly looking smartphone in my recent memory. It can blow the 'droid charge' apart in that category. RIM one suggestion for you, bold 9900 is perfect and torch 9810 is okay..but don't try any other form factor, you just can't get it right.

 
 
Posted by you sir name Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

I usually just ignore negative comments, but Really? I'm not saying RIM designed the greatest device ever, but you have to admit all touchscreen smartphones are more or less the exact same - large screen and a couple buttons at the bottom. How is this any different?

 
 
Posted by Revyrah Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

If you can't see how sleek of a design and beautiful form factor this is, then there's no hope for you.

This phone looks great. The buttons even look like the quality you can only get from a BlackBerry keyboard. The shape of the phone is indeed ergonomically designed to perfectly fit in our hands when in portrait or landscape.

I love this model.

 
 
Posted by michaelpaytonmz Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Gorgeous looking phone. I don't upgrade until March, so I have awhile to drool over this beauty.

 
 
Posted by porkchopian Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Love this BlackBerry and it's the one I have been waiting for to replace my Torch (not putting the Torch down cause it's a great phone just never use the physical keyboard)! Can't wait for Telus to release it. As for all the people bashing BlackBerry because they are switching to iCrap, I mean iPhone, good riddance! LOL! I laugh when I am out with my friends who have iPhone's and they ask me to use my BlackBerry because their iCrap, oops again, i mean iPhone, battery has died and they can't charge it! I crack up every time! Sucks not being able to remove the battery and put in a new freshly charged one doesn't it! LOL! Ok so there are more games and apps on the iCrap, damn it I mean iPhone (not sure why i keep doing that) but if I want to play games i'll use my Playstation portable. I am yet to see a game on the iCrap (ah hell I give up it is a piece of crap!) that even comes close to a game on the PSP. In the end it comes down to personal preference and that's cool. I prefer BlackBerry. I have used others, not because I was planning to leave BlackBerry but because without trying you can not give a valid opinion. Good job RIM and don't worry many of us are keeping the faith. Just one question though, why would you use the old Facebook app on a new BlackBerry OS7 add?

 
 
Posted by jacjordan Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Any word on VZW getting any of the new drops?

 
 
Posted by camera531 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

It's looking like Verizon is only getting the 9900 and upcoming curve. Sprint will get the 9850 (and I'll be first in line).

 
 
Posted by Revyrah Sunday, Aug 14, 2011 283 days ago

Aug 15th for the 9930 and 21st for the 9850 for Verizon.

 
 
Posted by axe50 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Optimistically hoping that TMO gets this along with the already known about 9900...that way I could go for this bad boy...not like the 9900 would be a bad compromise

 
 
Posted by Chas71 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

If this had a built in WiFi Hotspot, I'd be all over it. Can't have everything I guess. But it looks nice anyway.

 
 
Posted by ssb16 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

A good start to many great devices from RIM. I know they are late in coming out with devices but the devices I've had have been reliable as I don't go overboard installing anything and everything and I remind myself that its a smartphone not a Playstation or xbox where I need to play games. I'd love to test this out but I will move to a QNX device next not the Blackberry 7. i'm happy with my 9700 for the time being.

Having said that is there a way to get rid of the apple groupies. I'm sure they asked Itunes permission before posting here but I would love to have them banned from this site.

There are people who have been turned off from bb and for those of you just don't come here anymore. I think you miss blackberry and are envious but stick to your itunes and if you want something then just jailbreak it - I mean come on that's that only way to get the device to work properly!

 
 
Posted by AFriske Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

When the specs say 4gb on board memory does that mean I can load 4gb of apps? My tour is expandable to 16gb with an sd card but only 256mb (i think) of on board memory can be used for apps. I have to generally delete an app to add an app. 4 gb would hold a lot of apps, but I don't know if I am understanding that correctly.

 
 
Posted by JonSeals Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

No, BlackBerries store apps on the RAM... Sadly. Though it's got 768mb of RAM, and only about 300 /should/ be used by the OS, leaving just about 400mb for apps... It should be okay :)

 
 
Posted by Abrante Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

True

 
 
Posted by cjterminator Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Well on average a BB OS7 app size is around 1MB. Considering we have around 450MB available for apps, that will add up to approximately 400+ apps. I am sure that is more than enough :)

 
 
Posted by JonSeals Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Does this one have NFC?

Also, they should've moved to QNX for OS7... That could've really brought them back.

 
 
Posted by mavricxx Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Why the heck dos this phone have ONLY 4GB of built in memory and the others 8? Also, why did they have to make the battery door metal? Metal is a heat conductor! I bet you anything people are gonna be complaining that it get hot in their hand or while charging just like the MyTouch4G.

 
 
Posted by BChydro86 Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

this phone is uuuggglllyyy!

small screem, no front camera, those buttons on the bottom look terrible.... they shouldt have made those buttons more storm2-ish.

seriously, why would anybody buy this phone? droids have bigger screens, dual-cores, 4glte, and better cameras. not to mention blackberry apps are terrible.

as a bb user, im def getting the 9930 for verizon, because its what i want, as a non-touch screen user (the combo toucj/bold keyboard looks sweet), i cant comprehend why anyone would get this ugly phone, it brings nothing to the table.

 
 
Posted by cjterminator Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

I beg to differ, I got chance to actually hold one of these and it looks much Cool :) Once you will see it, i'm sure you will also change your opinion.

 
 
Posted by the brother Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

hey follow my on twitter @brotherneil

i will be test driving this beauty and the torch2 & bold 9900 at #BB7FanNight!!!!

piece

 
 
Posted by dosto Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

This phone looks really nice. I'm getting the 9900, but I think I can convince my wife to drop her android for the 9860. She like her Android phone, but the battery life is terrible.

 
 
Posted by cjterminator Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Well me and my wife too are waiting to grab 9900 and 9860 :)

 
 
Posted by tr0n Saturday, Aug 06, 2011 291 days ago

Hi @Dosto,

Douglas from RIM here. I’m happy to hear you’re planning to pick up the Bold 9900. Did you know it’s the first BlackBerry smartphone (along with the Bold 9930) to deliver Near Field Communications? NFC delivers many new and exciting capabilities from reading SmartPoster tags to pairing devices – and will eventually enable mobile payments – all with a simple tap of the smartphone.

If your wife is looking for an all-touch device, she can’t go wrong with the Torch 9850 or 9860. If not, then the Torch 9810 delivers an all-touch display with a slide-out QWERTY keyboard – the best of both worlds.

If you’re still having trouble deciding, or if you just want to get a better look at all 5 new smartphones, check out our Inside BlackBerry Blog: http://bbry.lv/cWR2rg.

Cheers,
Douglas, RIM Social Media Team

 
 
Posted by bovcrx Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

what kind of screen is it? bb.com says millions of colors so that means amoled or superLCD right?

 
 
Posted by falconeight Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

This is rimm's only hope, It looks good.

 
 
Posted by JimmyBX Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

Wow..Verizon getting shut OUT of the 9860/9850/9810...SMH...Looks like I'm leaving to Droid or iPhone. Got to upgrade eventually. Hope Verizon carries the iPhone 5.

 
 
Posted by surfindunkey Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

being a storm 2 user myself..i love the extra screen real estate u get with the full touch screen phones. altho i do prefer havin just a touch an so dint opt for the torch....so glad i waited..love this phone...love the design(slightly hopin the gsm version doesnt have physical keys..or atleast like the storm2, they're smooth)...love the 720p hd recording. i do hope this one has no restrictions for apps, unlike the storm2, whr it was just 256mb.

ps. for all u iphone lovers on here...got a few things for u...

1. u got the iphone...yay...but i'm still waitin on u guys havin replaceable batteries/memory cards...atleast with my bb..i can add a 16gb card...when it gets full add another 16gb card..an when tht gets full add another if ever i do need so many..but guess wht tht means unlimited storage...

2. atleast with bb..they can target a range of groups, not only budget-wise...but also in the manner of those that like slider phones(torch1/2), those that like full touch screen phones(storm/torch9850/60, those that like keyboard phones(bold9900, curve 9930), and those that like the clam-shell design(style)...how many different designs do the iPhone have?...ummm one...yea u may say it works..but then again...not everyone fits in a mini do they?

3. when it comes to apps..wait for qnx...not only is the app market set to change with the new os7 phones..but with qnx..they've also got android app portability..which will actually work as tho a second operating system is running on the same phone...an if by apps ur just judgin the gaming experience..then u lack using ur phone for max efficiency...

4.u can try to get iMessenger, or whats app or any of tht...but it aint BBM,,,,an we would like to relax in our security....plus with bbm6..cant wait to see how the interaction works with the apps...gonna be a whole new level of social networking
ps augmented reality with BBM...just genius..good job RIM

5.and lastly if u havent noticed atleast,(altho RIM took a whole lotta time to get the phones out)...atleast they got their consumer in mind an they releasin different models to cater to all ages/budgets/and styles..unlike iphone...whr the customer just shells out (sh#t) loadsa money to buy somethin tht gets outdated within a couple of months..whoopsie doo...

sowie i dint start this to sound like a rant...but ive had it to here..with all these iFans tryin to get on the bb sh&t=wagon an trop their iCrap at us...the apple's gone rotten and Its time to go black if u havent yet....blackberry still has juice to go tht extra mile an innovate....an they not just tryin to squeeze every last penny from us..by charging us blindly....iThis...iThat...iWhat?!!!

good job RIM...Good job Crackberry..an high five my fellow BMMers..

ps. i cant wait to see how the new bbm6 an os7 interact..gonna be epic...

 
 
Posted by bluezebra Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 294 days ago

I was really hoping that RIM went with the button-less design. I think the buttons look horrible. It would have looked so much more streamlined with capacitive buttons and the track pad. I could have sworn i saw a video with the button-less version.

 
 
Posted by ashalim Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 293 days ago

Can we install Apps on the 4GB on-board memory? or just the 768MB RAM?

 
 
Posted by BlckBrryMD Friday, Aug 26, 2011 271 days ago

From what I have been reading the apps go into the available app storage space but the add on files would go into the 4GB internal memory space. For example the 3D Rollercoster app takes about 2+MB of internal app storage and something like 200-300MB of add on files that get put on the 4GB storage partition. I would have like to see it have 8GB of storage space and cost saving is always key but sometimes that isn't a justifiable cost reduction.

 
 
Posted by markwmilligan Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 293 days ago

Tough choice on what to get now.

 
 
Posted by aj_007 Saturday, Aug 06, 2011 291 days ago

I believe I would be an early adopter of one of these phones... still torn btw d torch 2, torch touch, & bold touch (i'm currently a torch user, and I love d convenience of d relatively large screen & slide-out physical keypad). I hope I won't be disappointed cos these phones look like they absolutely rock. However, I keep wondering why RIM has not introduced front facing cameras yet... This is a really important and one of the very essential features they keep missing out on... Others such as 4G, even faster (dual core processors), mobile hot-spot capabilities, etc are also important, but the exclusion of front-facing cameras is absolutely irritating. Maybe they're saving these features for the QNX enabled super phones... I hope they'd drop in the near future.

 
 
Posted by chuckdawg1999 Sunday, Aug 07, 2011 290 days ago

Anybody know what kind of touch screen these are? I have a Storm 1 and I'm used to the touch/click interface and would hope they keep that going; that's what makes BB touch screens different and in my opinion better.

 
 
Posted by flyadan Tuesday, Aug 09, 2011 288 days ago

ive had many work bbs but my first personal bb was the storm 1 and i honestly loved that phone and i still have it around just in case. i now have a bold 9650, got it on release date, and i love it but i miss the extra screen real estate soo much. Im very excited for this phone and the specs are exactly what i would like to see and more. can't wait for vzw to get it.

 
 
Posted by siddo_d Thursday, Aug 11, 2011 286 days ago

So are they the same phone or what?!

 
 
Posted by mavricxx Friday, Aug 12, 2011 285 days ago

is this phone also gonna have ONLY 188.9MB of App memory like the 9900? Another turnoff is the fact that they put ONLY 4GB of internal memory.

 
 
Posted by sonabraham Wednesday, Aug 17, 2011 280 days ago

I have not seen any mention of predictive typing for this device.

 
 
Posted by dfb8085 Tuesday, Aug 23, 2011 274 days ago

no one has mentioned if the hotspot feature made it into the OS7 operating system. Does anyone know if the new blackberry phone will have this feature even if it is hidden by carrier request?

 
 
Posted by mike Steele Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 267 days ago

Is it a Global capable like my Storm? I need that capability for my business. Any body Know?