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Posted by soaresr Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Can't wait to get it when it's available on Rogers :)

 
 
Posted by serpico Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Sure all the Canadian carriers will carry it but I won't be holding my breath. Looks slow in swiping and awkward to type on. Reminds me of a Palm Pre. The OS looks too busy now and the menu windows/buttons look too ugly.

 
 
Posted by BerryGuy25 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

I have to agree, I few hours back I was saying in the forums that the 9800 wouldn't need a 1 GHz processor but after seeing this video, it looks like it could have used it.

Browsing throughout the text menus was super fast, while dealing with any media or the browser lagged at a rate thats unacceptable, imo. Kev went too easy on the browser run through, lets see the full Crackberry website and other websites, not just the mobile one. Pinch to zoom seemed to struggle on the fully rendered mobile site which was shocking and the camera app lagged as well, disappointing.

My personal gripes are that contact photos are STILL extremely small and with that I'm sure that there isn't full screen caller-photo-ID.

 
 
Posted by sk8er_tor Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Did you not notice the dozen apps running in the background when Kevin showed the multitasking screen? Maybe that had something to do with it. Kevin should have shut down all those apps running in the background so we could really see how fast this phone really is.

 
 
Posted by vector sigma Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

true that

 
 
Posted by McNooberson Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 557 days ago

The processor it has will be great. Sure, 1ghz couldn't hurt, but they are saving that for the 2nd gen? maybe even faster?

This looks like a great phone. I will surely be getting it first day.

 
 
Posted by infinus Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

            

 
 
Posted by infinus Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

RIM = ( ( No innovation )              +
            ( obsolete hardware )      +
            ( same old email song ) )  *
          ( lack of market sense )

 
 
Posted by kcmoberry Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

good lord how many times have people on this site slammed the ios for just getting multitasking.. yet here on this phone the multitasking is blamed for the slow down and the apps should have been closed.. lol.

what should have happened is MORE PROCESSING POWER. this OS absolutely looks like a step in the right direction but RIM went weak on the processing!! why??

I've read comments below these of people saying things like "to meet their price point" .. lol. it's gonna be 199 on contract with att. a 1ghz evo or incredible or captivate or droid x are all 199 on contract as well. don't give me that price point nonsense.

I left RIM for the EVO when it launched but I never would have even been looking if my blackberry hadn't been so slow and had provided a browsing and app experience I get now.

This is an underpowered phone with an OS that doesn't manage apps well enough to prevent the lag we just witnessed in that video. It's a disappointment.

They are so close to being right there in the conversation for any new smart phone buyer but just refuse to give the horsepower needed to close the deal.

Cant speak for IOS but in Android.. I dont care what apps are left open.. they never slow down the phone cause the OS puts them to a type of sleep state till re-accessed. Not saying OS6 needed this per say.. but without it.. the hardware needed to be big enough to handle the load.

Stop making excuses! Be objective and admit.. this device is underpowered.

Next device must step up the hardware.. the OS is ready to contend for the consumer dollar! It looks every bit a good alternative for IOS or Android. Just give it the damned power to run!! In the 9800.. they missed!

 
 
Posted by ShiftyAxel Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

You realise iOS can only multitask around 5-10ish apps at once, right? I'm pretty sure if you had about 20 running on an iPhone 3G it'd start lagging like hell too. In comparison I'd say the 9800 held up pretty well, even though the lag was still nasty.

 
 
Posted by katiepea Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

apparently you missed where he said 'can't speak for ios' and 'just bought an evo'

 
 
Posted by sk8er_tor Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

You're an idiot! Get lost with your Android and your rude and annoying comments.

 
 
Posted by experiment626 Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

Conspiracy Theory! The 9800 runs so slow that they're leaving all those Apps running on purpose as an excuse to hide just how underpowered it is,LOL.C'mon,tell me Kevin didn't notice all those Apps running and that normally he wouldn't have shut most of them down.......

 
 
Posted by edskelton Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

...and there was no slow down whatsoever as I swiped and tapped my way through the new interface.

I have an iPod Touch, so I know my way around iOS, and I gotta say that Blackberry 6 is more powerful in terms of UI. More powerful, i.e. more abilities, able to do more in terms of UI, tightly integrated.

(Think of iOS's horrible notification system, the sheer number of clicks it takes to change any settings, and the cluttered disastrous metaphor of the "multitasking" tray.)

Folks get so used dealing with the shortcomings of iOS that they become invisible. Don't get me wrong, people are happy w/ iOS, and good for them. It's all about acclimatization.

Probably also worth noting that the iPhone 4 has same RAM as Torch and is also not 1 ghz.

Trying to woo Android or iPhone fanboys would be a fools errand for RIM. They need to satisfy their own fanboys and expand into first time smartphone users.

 
 
Posted by rockerboy402 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

This makes me want one all the more!

 
 
Posted by ibcnul8ter Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

i'm already in line waiting!! :)

 
 
Posted by scuebydue Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

seems really slow to swipe to the next page

 
 
Posted by glinc Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Yup, you know the videos looked so good to be true.

 
 
Posted by John.P Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Faster than the HTC TouchPro 2 on my desk right now...

 
 
Posted by krayziebydaflesh Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

lol you're really comparing the 9800 to a device that's closing in on its 2nd year?

 
 
Posted by MissJennell Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

For one it's only been available in the US for about a year. And secondly most people only upgrade after 2 years. So for him it is an upgrade.

 
 
Posted by krayziebydaflesh Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

How was that relevant when his only reason for comparing the two in the first place was to justify the fact that the 9800 is slow and laggy? Want to Compare the 9800 then compare it to another CURRENT flagship device.

 
 
Posted by Tweak81 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Kinda the way the Incredible gets compared to the 9530....yea...

 
 
Posted by krayziebydaflesh Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

9550/9520 to be exact. And it's not the same situation considering The only time they were compared was during the time the Storm 2 was the Flagship device of the CDMA land. Ever since the Tour 2 *cough* i mean Bold 9650 was released Storm 2 has been non existent to anyone outside the Crackberry world. Now that the 9800 (New Flagship touch screen) device has popped up you will begin to see new comparisons with the Incredible vs 9800. 9800 vs iPhone, 9800 vs evo, 9800 vs Nexus. pretty much 9800 vs all current touch screens Because as a Flagship vs Flagship that would be relevant.

 
 
Posted by stevejb Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

I was thinking the same, but when I saw the amount of apps that were running in the app switcher I really wouldn't expect my home pc to run nice with about 20 apps open. Wanna see more vids or try for myself.

 
 
Posted by TheRock2.0 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

With a 624 MHz processor I expect the Torch to be sluggish. RIM needs to step up its game in the hardware department if they wish to compete.

 
 
Posted by glinc Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

haha look at how slow is the UI when he's trying to swipe to change to the next page. RIM fails for having this phone at a low res, only 512MB and a crappy processor.

 
 
Posted by StormAddict718 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 557 days ago

I thought the same ;-)

 
 
Posted by BMWABB Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

This is gonna be better than sex..................umm wait a minute maybe not that good, but cant wait to get it, but might wait a month for those bugs to get worked out.

 
 
Posted by Frank2029 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Starts with a P and ends with a what???

I dont get it

 
 
Posted by mvm549 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

i think hes talking about a porn site

 
 
Posted by HorseVu Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Starts with a 'P' and ends with 'hub'. Pretty sure you can figure it out now ;)

 
 
Posted by _X_ Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Starts with "P" ends with "dog". As in PhoneDog.com

=X=

 
 
Posted by ockfish Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

starts with a "p" and ends with a "hump"-------"n"

 
 
Posted by shaggydave Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Its pornhub. Lol

 
 
Posted by Frank2029 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

lol... ohhh i couldnt make out the "hub" part.

thanks guys :P

 
 
Posted by compinche Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

I hope this comes to sprint! I would so get it!!! It would be a real upgrade for me since I'm using a curve 8530... (Crossing my fingers) and praying this goes on the sprint network

 
 
Posted by greatness10 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

its a gsm phone...sprint is cdma, it WILL NOT come to sprint

 
 
Posted by slipdisc Wednesday, Aug 04, 2010 557 days ago

You're right, it will go no farther than AT&T. This was BB last dance, I love BB as much as any other addict but, you have to know when to jump ship in order not to be dragged down with the loyalists.

CPU= too damn slow
RAM = seriously lacking
OS = taken too long to bring mediocre to the party
Design = completely unoriginal
Apps = What apps? There's an app store? Really?

I used to think, email is where BB really had an advantage over other platforms. But, after using android with a gmail account, I now know im losing nothing. I'm not trying to gloat. Just trying to convey my POV.

 
 
Posted by Slash82 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Nice vid., nice device...

But it`s true, it seems to be not that fast,
as it should be...

 
 
Posted by BENZ_O Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

9700 WILL support the new O.S 6!! :)
I think the 9800 is too long when it's open!

 
 
Posted by scalemaster34 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Don't hold your breath....

RIM said it would be carrier dependent... VZW was not impressed with OS6 on the STORM2 (showed OS6 used 247MB in this video) , they (and other carriers) may not be impressed with it on the Pearl or the Curve either.

And to be honest, I'm not sure OS6 was very impressive on the 9800, seemed a little slow in this video in comparison with others we have seen. Even seemed to freeze up twice.

 
 
Posted by KurtisBertolami Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

I'm pretty sure we all now how to load beta/leaked OS's on our devices, so I could give two craps whether or not T-Mobile decides to release an official build for the 9700.

All I can do is pray they do build a version for the 9700 with UMA support...

 
 
Posted by arundc Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

However, since when did YouTube let people upload videos longer than 10 minutes?!?!

 
 
Posted by justinangil Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

since last week.

 
 
Posted by ffac789 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

We get 15 minutes now! :D

 
 
Posted by just1083 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

The topic of this post is wrong...hands on first look? I think this is far from the 1st video i've seen on the slider lol

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

dude.. it's CrackBerry.com's first official hands-on look at the Torch.  title is what is should be.

 
 
Posted by mvm549 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

bbm 5.0.1.34. gay

 
 
Posted by JD914 Tuesday, Aug 03, 2010 558 days ago

Even though its a big improvement for Blackberry, it's still behind the competition. 624 MHZ processor is a mega fail in the world of 1GHZ super phones available today. Slider keyboard makes it look clumsy and bulky. The notification slide down bar looks too much like Android. RIM looks like it's going to fall even further back in terms of design, software, hardware and functionality.