Looking forward to this new Torch. And who knows, maybe by actual launch date the "bedazzled" battery door will be replaced by one with grip...like the one on the Charcoal Torch.

Looks nice, but why does it only have 768MB of RAM?

Very pointless for me to get the same device; all over again...I'll pass!
Had it been there were noticeable changes, such as a bigger screen, bigger physical keyboard, then that would have been enough for me to get this.
I'll rather buy a Monza than waste my money on this.

I would buy it for retail pricing if it supported CDMA, I really want to give Blackberry a try and this is the only one that I really like and none of the GSM carriers work in my area.

oooh, ahhhh

I can't believe they haven't made any real physical changes to the design, thinner, lighter, etc.

This should have been the original torch and it wouldn't have had such a bad rep. I'm sorry to say but they seem a year late on everything they do. The last torch had so many glitches and slow, I ended up going back to my 9700. My next phone will be the Samsung Galaxy S2. I am still hoping for RIM to make a comeback. Hopefully 2012 is it. Motorola did it, HTC did it so can RIM.

if its the same size as the Torch One then why can't I simply swap out battery doors? Cause THIS one stinks up the place.

Yawn... Ok, where is the Bold 9900? :D.

The back cover looks like a little girl that loves rhinestones made it.

Come on RIM... We're in 2011... 5 megapixels is soooo old...
Nokia got 5mp back in 2006... Phone are now rocking the 12mp
Upgrade a bit... Don't be greedy... We really don't care how much the Blackberry weight... Just a 10mp camera already!!... :(

I have the Torch 1, i like it but i am not going to buy the Torch 2. this is stupid, same design as torch 1 and nothing attractive about it beside the processor.
1. No Front camera
2. •Display: 3.2" VGA - 480 x 640 is below those of ( Iphone 4 or Nexus2)
3. pretty heavy and boring look.
By the time , they release it..... other phones will be out with better hardware and display...RiM doens't get it.... time to get a new CEO

I'm waiting for the all touch monza, but what is just ridiculous at this point is the extreme snail's pace. They are making the exact same torch (physically), so all they're doing is upping specs in an existing phone, and it's still taking an eternity to actually launch. I stll can't believe only one phone was announced at BB world, which won't even be available until august at the earliest. I also can't believe we're over 5 months into 2011 and there's nothing new available from BB other than the Playbook that I'm so sick of hearing about. Where are the phones!!? Their stock is crashing and every analyst knows why - NO NEW PHONES. And it really seems like RIM doesn't care. There doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency. Just super slow business as usual for RIM.

doesnt look like much of an upgrade....

gotta wonder why RIM even put this phone out on the market.?

they could have fixed the form factor and made it sexy like the bold-touch.... or given it a bigger screen. etc.

seems like a waste of an upgrade.

Looks good but any chance of this being 4G/LTE???

Just a question that i'm not sure has been answered or even brought forward. Will this also boast the same "liquid graphics" that are on the Bold 9900? I love my Torch, and I will likely be upgrading to either the Torch2 or the Bold 9900. The way I see it, if the Torch2 has liquid graphics, then I get a bigger screen and the keyboard (albeit not as good as the 9900 keyboard, but that's the price for a bigger screen I guess). Any thoughts on Liquid Graphics on torch2 would be appreciated. thanks

The outside looks boring, might get it if they also offer it in different colors like white and black. I don't know why they went from charcoal to plain silver which is a step backwards, and charcoal was part of the reason why I got the first one...

Otherwise is not worth it, just the speed is not worth to change my Torch. If they do this com on , you will need to put an exchange program for the torch to this upgrade ($100 tops), for a nominal fee outside carriers channels especially outside ATT. Remember we have a 2 year contract, to buy full price for this, NO way.

The battery door on this actually looks quite sexy..

meh if att gets any decent droid phones the next time im up for it ill go droid. unless our QNX phones get droid player and better stuff thats promised to our tablet. first time im feeling lackluster about blackberry.

can the original torch battery cover fit this one?

In my opinion, this is just dumb. Its almost as if they're trying the apple move of going look, this is the best phone we've made, then when everyone buys it, they go, look, we've made it better!.

I am very shitted off.

If Disco Stu had a cell....

same old ugly phone

I thought i saw in a video of the Torch2 that it was thinner than the first? No? Maybe i'm wrong.

I think they should focus on 2 or 3 phones/forms. Bold as the flagship but make it cheaper (to buy), slider for people who want a larger screen with keys, and a full touch. Get rid of the rest. It's good enough for Apple and HTC to release the same single design over again so i don't know why RIM tries to make flips, sliders, touches, bolds, curves etc... Simplify it a little.

Also, i bought my first BB - a 9780 and so far it's not bad. I wish it had a touch screen sometimes so the new Bold should kick arse. My 2 cents worth from a lurker and BB noob.

At a guess the problem is RIM has too much inventory at carriers.

Older devices have higher margins and they make more money selling those devices.

Only when the inventory has cleared can they launch new devices without massively impacting margins. (Older devices must be reduced in price when new products hit the market).

They're in a catch 22 situation. Can't launch new products because the lower margins and old device inventory will destroy margins and devalue their stock price further. Can't not launch product because the lack of up to date product is damaging their status.

In the end, they'll sell the old stuff and launch products slowly and tolerate the disdain of the tech media.

After trying several Android phones I just bought a used Torch. I had a Torch before but thought that Android was all the rage and the Adobe Flash support was important. But Android calendar, messaging and most device's signal reception could not match the Torch. Noe if RIM would just release one of the new phones it would be great. And if they can get Adobe Flash support included it would be awesome.

the trackpad don't light up like all the other devices. #fail
this devise is completely useless now that the storm 3's coming out. #epicfail

It's easy for us on here to distinguish between the Torch 1 and Torch 2, because we are Tech savy, but ask yourself this question...how do you explain the difference to the lay man out there, who only believes in physical changes that have been made to the phone, rather than hardware changes.
We seem to forget that it's not just about the Western World...these devices sell very well in third World Countries as well, and I can guarantee you that most of them don't know the differences in specs of the phones they are using.

As long as the phone works, has a camera, Internet and performs other basic functions like other Smartphones, then they are good to go....but as for Specs, that is a different story.
Based on that, if you present to the lay man this Torch 2, he would be wondering why it is actually called a Torch 2, because there isn't any physical changes that have been made to the Phone...it's still the same old Torch.
This is also applicable to most people in the Western World, it's not everyone that can be bothered about Phone Specs, all they want is physical changes, which would be a good reason for them to upgrade.

A poster used the iphone analogy, but the poster also forgot that the iphone 3GS had no front facing camera, while the iphone 4 has it...that alone is a good physical difference, and can make someone who had the 3GS to upgrade to the iphone4, just because of the new front facing Camera.
In summary...this upgrade is very useless and pointless!
I'll stick with my original Torch till a better Touch screen phone is released by RIM.

I just got my first torch this last month, and I love it. It took some getting used to at first, having to flip up the keyboard to type, but I naturally started using the touch screen for most typing and passwords etc, but when I get into the emails I pull down the qwerty keyboard. It hasn't been sluggish, I wonder what it will be like with even more RAM and a faster processor. Speaking of RAM, coming from the Bold having 512 mb to store apps on is amazing. I don't think I need more. The Bold Touch looks like it will be a nice phone, the convenience of having the keyboard is nice, but this big screen on the Torch is pretty nice too. Either way I don't want something without the physical keyboard. I love my blackberry. My colleagues who use iPhones don't get it. "If you don't have an iPhone... blah blah blah."

Hi, here am I ,the blackberry torch 2 aka the phone that should have came last year, bu then only with these specs......

I actually read a lot of the various comments for this article.
Seems like some people didn't really think before submitting a comment.
Some could say the Torch 1st Gen should have been designed and released what the Torch2 is supposed to be...
But in either case, I look forward to checking this device out when its finally released to market!

Gee there are a lot of other brand trolls commenting.

Where you all from trolls - employees of which of the companies?

Your troll attitudes stand out a country mile .....

They should of increased the screen size to 3.5 inches with 480x800. Metal battery door, like the storm 2. Lastly capacitive bottom buttons, with the red and green for hang up and call. Nice internal boost though!

I see your point Halasteve about needing a few Physical differences for the person who is not techy minded. But have a look where a lot of Tech support for companies and many workers in IT in the west come from and its not the "first world" west..
Im from the west and have many friends and family in the "Third World" and i would say knowledge on Technical specs on phones is the same sort of ratio it is here in the UK :)

Hopefully not changing the outward appearance although the back cover has been (which I guess is about showing there is a change to non techy people) it appears should mean accessories like covers and car holders etc can be used by the user on there new device in theory. Plus saves Rim paying out to design and create new coverings i presume which hopefully means money goes on internal components, software/patent licenses plus development.

One thing that worries me is what will the battery life be like all good increasing processing speed and memory but they generally eat power!

they have increased the power of the phone but yet the battery is staying th same as the Torch 1. Not good.

I think it would be "nice" if RIM offered a deal to original customers who bought the original underpowered Torch. Maybe a trade in program at AT&T?
I know it'll never happen, but by releasing the Torch 2, RIM is basically admitting it released an underperforming device the 1st time around.

Yeah I just got my torch and I love it but having this one come out and there is really no physical change to the phone just more powerful and memory.. Ill stick to the torch till something I feel is worth better gettin.. If their was a change in the style of the torch 2 I would love it and want it but looks just like the torch 1 just with different color new software and more memory.. This one is already good for me

You know what i don't get, the Torch came out around 8 or 9 months ago.... now we have all these people bitching about oh the torch 1 should have come out with the torch 2 specs... but last i checked, and i may be mistaken so correct me if im wrong.... but what phone that came out a year ago had a 1.2ghz proc? almost all of the high end phones this year have been 1ghz, so it seems to me that the 1.2 would have been used on a lot more phones if it was out for consumer a year ago... just my 2 cents

Add a front facing cam and skype and I'll buy it. Until then, I'll pass.

I really don't understand why people complain that RIM doesn't improve their specs, then complain when they improve them before they're eligible for an upgrade. Just because you buy a phone that has been out a few quarters already does not mean a new customer next quarter should have to buy a phone that's a year old just so you don't feel ripped off or whatever it is you're all complaining about. If the phone wasn't good enough for you when you bought it, then maybe you should rethink your purchase habits...

Love the fact they upped the screen res.....but I can't help but wish the screen was a bit bigger.

i have a nokia n8 and a bb 9800 and i have to admit the nokia is great for pics but i still prefer my 9800 though not perfect i am quite happy with it and does everything i need from a phone and the os 6 ui is great and with a faster processor and os 7 it will be even better .looking forward to the torch 2 .

I would rather go for the 9900 than this. Always hated Torch.

And it poses soooo damn sexy!