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Posted by Detective M Downs Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I work on Wall Street and, I have no problems with my S2 re:looks, performance and etc.

 
 
Posted by dtlorman Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I agree 100% with this review. I considered the Storm1 before buying the Tour in July. After buying the Storm2, I kept my Tour just in case I found the experience frustrating with the touch screen, etc. Recently, I was using my wife's Tour, and I can say with absolute certainly, I would NEVER go back. The screen on the Storm2 is terrific, the surepress interface works very well, AND the Wi-Fi is an excellent addition.

 
 
Posted by hmorgan25 Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

With the new OS update for S1 and S2, the S1 seems to be just fine. 90% of the positives in this article apply to S1. Only major differences are maybe lag because of the extra 128MB of RAM (but a battery pull solves that), and WiFi and SurePres improvement.

The look is almost identical, no? my question is, when is the S3 coming out that will have more RAM for apps and no clicking? or will an OS update remove the clicking needed for at least the S2?

 
 
Posted by ammonsd Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

The "major differences" you listed were precisely the reason I upgraded to the Storm2, along with the Verizon upgrade offer. I really liked the original Storm, but the Storm2 provides a much more pleasant smart phone experience.

 
 
Posted by Attiqmalik Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

Voice is lost while call is connected on Storm2 9550. What's the use of this "smartphone" which cannot make simple calls :(

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

Sounds like a one-off. Never happened to me ...

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

It sounds like you are FORCED into using this device is you want both a BlackBerry and touch-screen device. That's not how it should be...

"...but as Smartphones go, if you are a professional who needs the best business Smartphone with a touch screen, the BlackBerry Storm 2 is the ONLY device for you"

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

What I was trying to say was that out of all the touch screen smartphones on the market, if you need to use it in a business environment, the Storm 2 is the best of the bunch.

 
 
Posted by mhyhmc Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I dont really understand why it's so difficult to comprehend that the purpose of screen-clicking is to alleviate the problem of unintentionally selecting an item(something that happens numerous times on most touchscreens). I actually think that its a brilliant concept that works.

 
 
Posted by LoSt180 Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I completely agree. I've become so accustomed to the screen click that I get frustrated when using a device that DOESN'T click! Navigation/scrolling on the screen is such a pain since those devices constantly select items when I just wanted to scroll past.

 
 
Posted by mikeyman Friday, Apr 02, 2010 679 days ago

I find the click through to be a huge plus. The virtual keyboard on the droid constantly mistook my thumb on the B or N to be a space. None of my messages made any sense. Loving the surepress.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

It definitely is user preference. I just think its unnecessary based on my usage of other touch screen smartphones.
Based on my experience with them, I don't tend to unintentionally select something, but thats just me :-)

 
 
Posted by kinggeoff Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I would NOT buy it. Simple as that. The click is one of the strongest features for me. I love that physical reinforcement.

It means that while in dialpad, I'm actually PUSHING the numbers rather than tapping on them and hoping for the best. It means that while browsing (albeit slowly on the native browser) I click on links with a click, rather than double or triple tapping on a screen hoping I got the right link. Highlight THEN click to execute. That's how a touch screen should be.

All other touch screens feel COMPLETELY disconnected souring me on the experience of touch outside of the storm.

 
 
Posted by R1cE Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I don't get why he has an issue with the screen. That's what sets the storm 2 apart from the other touchscreen phones out there, and personally I love inputting data on it.

 
 
Posted by vlkers7171 Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

Ive used many smart phones out there. Winmo, iphone, android, etc...and I can say while the web browsing is super slow on this phone (which it is)...I prefer typing on this phone better than any other. The droid is fast as hell, but I hate the typing. If I hate the typing on a phone, I'm not going to want to use it as a daily driver. I could see my self using the droid or iphone on occasion, but the Storm2 is really what I prefer as my daily driver and using it for its sync-ability, push email and voice quality (and not dropping calls)

 
 
Posted by Stephen Smith Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

Craig said, "...and the whole having to click the screen paradigm combined to make me feel like hurling it at the wall many times"

That's like buying a slider phone and saying "that whole slider thing made me want to hurl it at the wall."

You don't *have to* click the screen. If you hate that input format, get a phone with the format you do like.

Obviously this is a user preference issue. After owning a boatload of phones and PDAs (way back to the Apple Newton 110) and experiencing the problems of mini-keyboards and standard touch screens, I ended up prefering the click screen. Even on the Storm 1.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

My preference is the Bold 9700 with a physical keyboard. I review all kinds of phones so that was my experience when I was testing the Storm 1 at the time :-)

 
 
Posted by kinggeoff Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

Prefer the click, even on the storm1. It's the reason for the phone. It was the leading feature that some people "tried to get around" even though they didn't prefer it. If you are looking for a touch screen with physical feedback, the storm is the only way to go.

 
 
Posted by jerseyred Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I don't think the phrase "best touch screen BlackBerry" should be used...considering there are only two of them...and they are both (for the most part) the same phone. Of course the newer Storm2 is better than the first one...It's like saying "This is the best touchscreen iPhone ever" Duh, it's newer and you have no other option. Saying the 9700 is the best qwerty BlackBerry is different (and true).

I think the only way in which a business user would prefer the Storm2 is for the touchscreen or a larger screen. That's about it. I would rank it behind both Bolds, and the Tour for enterprise usage.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

You're right. It can only be compared with the Storm 1 :-)

Like you, I prefer the Bold 9700, but I am really impressed with the Storm 2 though.

 
 
Posted by jeffmeden Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

"Without question, this is the best touch screen BlackBerry"

This is mentioned twice in the review... which touch screen enabled blackberries that are currently selling is this in contrast to? I am confused. This really reads like a Storm 1 review ("I don't like clicking" and "the browser is slow" should ring a bell). Aside from a "better click" and WiFi, how is the Storm 2 demonstrably different from the Storm 1 (in a business sense, as this review was apparently aimed)? Maybe the million or so Storm 1 owners (I am among them, yes) would then be able to glean something useful from this.

Also, did you know there is a mobile version of CNN.com (shown automatically in the bb browser) that loads in about 6 seconds? Changing the browser setting to get the full version to load takes about 15 seconds before a navigable page is ready (not including the time to change the setting).

 
 
Posted by asmallchild Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

The Storm 1 was my first smartphone so I was both impressed and annoyed at what it offered.

Having done a bit more market research, I can certainly say BlackBerry is still the king of the email world but its a dated platform.

I'm definitely jumping to the Droid at the next chance I get and ultimately still envision landing on an Apple product assuming it's offered on Verizon eventually.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I used both the Storm 1 and 2, and from a business perspective, the Storm 1 was not a good business Smartphone, mainly because of its typing issues.

The Storm 2 has a much better implementation of SurePress so now, from a business perspective, it is now usable. You can now actually pound out emails quickly and accurately.

Add the simultaneous voice and data brought about by adding Wi-Fi, and it gets even better.

I don't know of many business users who have stuck out the Storm 1, but I can see many of them liking the Storm 2.

As for mobile browsing. Yup I did know that ;-) I've been a BlackBerry user since the RIM 850. I think if you want to show the browser, you need to make it show the real web page, not the mobile one. Smartphones in 2009 should be able to handle the real web, not cop out on the mobile pages.

 
 
Posted by kinggeoff Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

learning the system. I actually find the screen on the s1 easier to press and thus, for me, even faster to type on than the s2. It's just a matter of typing accurately and adjusting your timing to what suits the s1 best. You can hammer out text quite quickly with the s1 or s2 if you take the time to learn the skills. We were all bad at typing even on a full desktop keyboard once upon a time. Full physical qwerty will always be faster by nature, but the s1 is no slouch if you take the time to learn the system

 
 
Posted by stevy33 Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I have been to the Blackberry website and have searched for ways to just leave comments/opinions on the device and have been unsuccessful in finding a way to leave a comment. DOES ANYONE know how to contact them?

 
 
Posted by dgburns Tuesday, Dec 01, 2009 800 days ago

Try bbsuggestions at rim dot com but chances of you ever hearing back from your comments are slim to none.

 
 
Posted by DeeBee85 Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

Nice review. I have the same positives and negatives with this bb that you've covered. In general, the most negative things are universal to all blackberry smartphones, and not just the storm2 (or either storm). I use mine on a corporate BES and its great. I have no issues typing out quick emails. I'm very satisfied...now RIM, get us some decent web browsing (and that openGL would be nice too).

 
 
Posted by drawl66 Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I love the click screen on my Storm1. In no way does it force my fingers off the device and inhibit fast text entry. I have seen so many wrong selections on the other touchscreens.

 
 
Posted by Dland69 Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I had 5 Storms in 12 months and finally gave up, but it was the click screen that kept me coming back, so I find it weird that the reviewer points that out as an issue. I did switch to the Droid last week and have to say that unless Rim makes some very aggressive changes, the Storm line will have some real challenges competing against more dependable devices.

 
 
Posted by tommylouvon Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I had the Storm, Storm2, and now a Tour. I would have kept the Storm2 if only it had an option for click or touch only. When I am in meetings trying to secretly do my emails I would prefer to type in "Stealth Mode" and the clicking noise was way too loud for a quiet room full of people.

My dream Blackberry would be to have the Storm2's chassis with a track pad and the option for click or touch only....

 
 
Posted by 03CrewSC Monday, Nov 30, 2009 801 days ago

I have a Storm 1 and have used it on a BES since day 1. I beleive it is a very professional looking device. Does it have to have a keyboard on the bottom to be taken seriously? I will probably upgrade to a S2 in the future just because of the additional memory and WiFi.

 
 
Posted by br14 Tuesday, Dec 01, 2009 801 days ago

"Why must you click the screen when you can just touch it?"

I'm with all the others that like the click. If you've ever watched anyone trying to type accurately on an iPhone you can see why. The click ensures more accurate typing.

I can type faster on my Storm 1 than I can on my 8820 I guess because my fingers are too big for the keys.

The original Storm 1 software was poor but the first upgrade took care of most of the issues.

I will be buying a Storm 2.

"the clicking noise was way too loud for a quiet room full of people"

Don't have a Storm 2 but isn't there a key tone option button any more?

"The BlackBerry OS really does need an overhaul to modernize it"

I never understand when people say this. Do you mean the look and feel isn't good enough? The basic OS in my opinion is actually rather good. And far more secure than anything else available on the consumer market (important when you do online banking for example).

 
 
Posted by mjlnyc Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 775 days ago

I would really like to know since I do a lot of "stealth" emailing during meetings, and an inability to do this without clicking sounds is really important to me.

 
 
Posted by lovemytoys Tuesday, Dec 01, 2009 801 days ago

I thought wi-fi on the Storms was only for data (Verizon). Since I had a huge problem with dropped calls on Storm1 I would definitely upgrade to Storm2 if wi-fi was voice also. I was told no, however. Could someone confirm? Thanx.

 
 
Posted by dgburns Tuesday, Dec 01, 2009 800 days ago

NO VOICE OVER WIFI.
I think what the comment about "simultaneous" was implying was that you could be on a cellular phone call and still have active data service over WiFi. I don't know if that's true or not?

 
 
Posted by slimjim987 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 791 days ago

Verizon wouldn't allow voice to go over wifi because wifi deals with the public internet which isn't as secure as Verizons network. Plus the internet may not be as reliable as you'd like for Qos (Quality of Service) which deals with packet loss, jitter and latency. Anotherwards Wifi is unreliable for voice transfer and verizon doesnt want to be responsible for irriated users.

 
 
Posted by dgburns Tuesday, Dec 01, 2009 800 days ago

"Without question, this is the best touch screen BlackBerry"
Well now gee, THAT'S a bold statement! :) "Best" out of two isn't much of a competition especially considering Storm1 is phasing out for Storm2.

 
 
Posted by tmountjr Wednesday, Dec 02, 2009 799 days ago

Sorry, I don't buy it. The keyboard on the Storm 2 for me is worse than the Storm 1. I feel like I have to mash the screen on the 2 for it to register any keystrokes, and this is my impression after setting up three different devices. I will grant it's not as laggy and the screen orientation change is much more fluid, but the touchscreen is still horrible, as bad as, if not worse than, the original Storm.

Every single user in my organization that went from an 8830 to a StormX and who composed emails regularly on their 8830 lasted about 72 hours max with the StormX before switching back to the 8830 or swapping out to a Tour. Every single one of those users have publicly vowed never to go near a Storm again. Aside from the keyboard it's not a bad device, but I wish there was a way to turn off the dang click and treat it more like a real touchscreen. I can compose emails on my personal iPhone just as fast as I can on my corporate 8830 or a Tour, and after using a few HTC touchscreens for a few minutes I think my experience would be similar, but it takes 4x longer to do the same thing on a StormX.

 
 
Posted by pinstripes77 Thursday, Dec 03, 2009 799 days ago

I have had my S2 for about 2 weeks now and twice it has told me "cannot connect call in progress". The only way I can get the device to 'dial out' is to take the battery out. Being a RIM user for years and used to the re-loading of the device after a battery removal, its not that bad but wondering if anyone has a suggestion for me to try?

 
 
Posted by ptsurf11 Tuesday, Dec 08, 2009 793 days ago

Check out http://oneweb.net. It speeds up BlackBerry browsing and has cool Facebook and Twitter widgets.

 
 
Posted by keyguy242 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 791 days ago

I've had this phone for about a week. This thing has so many glitches its ridiculous. I cannot delete a picture I sent in BBM. My brower constantly freezes. I've had it one week and ive had to do a battery pull 3 times already. Its a piece! The smart type messenger constantly gets words wrong and scrolling on the screen to get the right word hurts my back with frustration. I'm not even kidding i feel like smashing this stupid thing with a hammer.

 
 
Posted by slimjim987 Thursday, Dec 10, 2009 791 days ago

I want to know how the difference between the S1 w/ the new 5.0 (Not the 4.7) update and how it compares to the S2. Besides the WiFi, does the S2 have a faster browser for the internet(or is this a speed issue with Verizon) and does it have more app space? Or anything else i havent mentioned!

 
 
Posted by rdsookey Tuesday, Dec 15, 2009 786 days ago

i just got a 9700 last week and its ok...i had an 8120 pearl for over a year..yes, with wifi and 3G..i,m gonna get the 9100 pearl the day it comes out cuz i hate the keys on the bold...way too close together..cant believe some guy paid $700.00 for one..i'll be selling mine for best offer once i get my new pearl...anyone got a release date on that yet or what??

 
 
Posted by helidriver Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 785 days ago

I recently had my S1 software upgraded to the S2, massive improvement. Much faster all round usage especially load time of apps. Better features like flick scrolling, options in calendar, and many others. Was disappointed with my S1 but since the upgrade it is a completely new phone, very impressed and I just love it. Recommend anyone that has a S1 to see your local dealer and get them to upgrade the software for you.