BlackBerry Storm vs. Palm Pre, According to Verizon

on 6 Jun 2009 12:19 PM

The Palm Pre, available from Sprint, just went on sale in limited quantities this morning (check out PreCentral's Line up shots) but #1 BlackBerry carrier Verizon didn't even wait until the Pre went on sale to start educating their sales agents as to all of the Pre's shortcomings as compared to the BlackBerry Storm. The memo above went out yesterday and below you can find Big Red's Palm Pre Competitive Comparison charts, which pits the Pre side by side with each big US carrier's top line products. If you're not up to speed on the Pre, be sure to check out Dieter's comprehensive Palm Pre Review.

So what do you think CrackBerry Nation, Verizon Storm or Sprint Pre? As always, you can sound off in the comments or in our Palm Pre forum.

Palm Pre Competitive Comparison Charts

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Posted by thankgod4sig Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Updates on O/S nearly everyday
VZW 9530 Storm - Check

Posted by leathernuts Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

not sure if that is a joke or youre being serious, but that was funny as he11!!!!!

Posted by azboricua Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Stable OS: Storm:no Pre:yes

Pre wins! lol!

Posted by Stopa Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

stable system? like when Mossberg suddenly lost all his data? yeah, right

Posted by azboricua Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

At least he was able to input his data in the first place.

Posted by bigcalidave Monday, Jun 08, 2009 975 days ago

And you know this how? Pre Fanboi?

Posted by Rizzy09 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

@ azboricua

Yes it does, the storms OS is stable. its flawless

Posted by rcdeck Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

you guys are too funny!

Posted by azboricua Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

I had to laugh too. This Job Aid is a waste of paper. How about they print a Niagra flier or something!

Posted by timbojones22 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

I have a blackberry storm and it is extremely slow even with the software upgrade,why is this

Posted by cpuking2009 Sunday, Jun 07, 2009 976 days ago

because you do not know how to manage an OS... nor do u need a smartphone if u don't ;)

Posted by NinjaMoose Sunday, Jun 07, 2009 976 days ago

The thing is, you shouldn't have to "manage" anything. That's the problem with it. Memory leak shouldn't be happening, random restarts, etc. Customers don't want to pull their battery twice a day, or perform any sort of "daily maintenance" for their phone's OS. That's why people are complaining about the Storm more than any other touchscreen phone.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my Storm (aside from the terrible performance on my GSM network), but that's because I had the time and patience to load beta OS'es, clean the memory, pull the battery, etc. While I was content with doing that, I shouldn't have to, and most people won't put up with it.

Posted by twester65 Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 970 days ago

I haven't had a random restart in a couple of months. I pick my phone up in the morning, put on the Bluetooth headphones and go. I've stopped checking status because the phone always runs flawlessly.

At night, I take out the phone slap it on the charger and I'm ready to go the next day.

While I sleep, the phone shuts itself down for a few hours and then does a soft reset just before I wake up. Rinse and repeat.

I utilize multiple medical database programs. I text, Twitter, BBM, email and make phone calls all day. My Storm is always there when I need it.

I think maybe you're thinking of another phone. Pre looks like it lacks so much that I take for granted with my RIM device. In addition, I don't have to mess with a slide-out keyboard.

Posted by ridavid81 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

verizon stable carrier with bright future: YES
sprint unstable carrier losing more customers everyday to Verizon and ATT: YES

Posted by azboricua Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Just talking about the Pre phone, not the carrier.

Posted by sfeather Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Iphone, novel device, locked to GSM/AT&T = bad deal.
Pre, decent device, locked to Sprint = bad deal.
Storm, decent device, quad phone on Verizon = good deal.

I was a LONG time AT&T customer. Looked at the Iphone. Willing to spend the money. Terrible coverage in our area South of Atlanta.

Sprint is great if you live in the city and only travel the interstates. Hope you don't ever have billing problems and need to call customer care.

Posted by chillson1386 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Visual voicemail, voice dialing, edit email attachments; these few things can be fixed with 3rd party apps. And the amazon wireless music store yea, but lets not forget Verizons argument that Rhapsody is better than iTunes lol

Posted by chrisp9446 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

I think it'll be interesting to see what happens in 6-9 months when the exclusivity runs out and the Pre shows up on Verizon. Probably some more gimmicky marketing about how it's now an awesome phone!

Posted by isaacleese Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

...by Verizon's own chart, the BlackBerry Bold is the phone to get. :p

Posted by hoosercub Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

isaacleese is correct.. the Bold is the best way to go according to this chart..

Posted by gtstang462002 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Taking out everyone opinion that the Storm sucks and just looking at the chart the bold and the storm are even.

Posted by Ebscer Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Best I can tell the only platforms worth talking about are blackberry, iPhone, and Android...

Posted by raskal1130 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Some of these comparisons are hilarious, I mean, they actually put VCast as one of them. Duh only Verizon phones will have it. After reading the comparisons though, I'd rather have a Bold than a Storm. Lets face it, the Storm still is buggy and laggy. But between Storm and Pre, if it is the phone, and didn't matter on the carrier, Pre all the way. The Pre will be going to at&t and Big Red next year, according to talks, because Sprint has exclusive through 2009. I wonder what Verizon will be advertising when it comes out for them, especially after verizon posted this...

Posted by hoosercub Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

They will advertise it just like its any other smartphone on VZW.. Between the storm and the pre, i'll stick with my storm, because it isn't just between the phones, they are on a carrier, and even the phone by itself, id rather stumble sometimes clumsily through doing certain tasks on my storm than being stuck with the inability to do so, or wait for a third party app.

Posted by leathernuts Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

These comparisons are meant to educate the vzw sales and not for us to see. Its so when an customer walks in, the sales rep will have some amo and can pull out a Storm and say" yeah, but can the Pre do this...wait a minute, I got to do a bat pull...."

Posted by MikeSuede Sunday, Jun 07, 2009 977 days ago

I agree! LOL!!!

Posted by maxwjackson Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

they forgot that the storm sucks hahah. ive never had a palm but as far as BBs go the storm is the worst phone ive ever had

Posted by the one and only M Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

i would definately take a pre over the storm, but i would take a TOUR over pre.

Posted by the one and only M Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

i would definately take a pre over the storm, but i would take a TOUR over pre.

Posted by yakstorm Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

What's funny is that the Verizon and the Storm takes credit for "hundreds" of 3rd party apps in the App Store. Well, Verizons App Center is non-existant and RIM, well it's great but not Storm exclusive. In fact, I had a conversation with one of the very bright verizon cust support people (ok very bright is over doing it a bit....eh, a lot!!). I brought up the fact that the App Center on the storm itself was one of the selling points that verizon used in marketing this phone from the very beginning...and it's gone nowhere! The rep said "verizon doesn't support 3rd party apps in it's app center...they (3rd party apps) are alot of time not stable with the phones software". Hahaha! So...they want to make chart using the info that it has hundreds of 3rd party apps in the app store...but, say that you shouldn't download them because they can be unstable. Verizon you've done it again. Btw, I like my Storm very much...just pointing out the idiot policys that verizon has sometimes.

Posted by Stang68 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

The Storm is a pathetic device and RIM or VZW should not be comparing it to anything. I cannot wait to get rid of it and the Tour. As far as the Pre goes, it is definitely and "iPhone Killer" but not a business phone. The Bold (and Tour) are better devices for someone who shoots out emails. Still, a very beautiful device.

Posted by Achronas Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Verizon is unbelievable....
I would take a Pre over a Storm any day.
Maybe they should give up on the Storm and just release the Tour already.

Posted by ushneb Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

The Storm's expandable memory should read 32GB external as we all know that OS 4.6+ can support 32GB microSD.

Posted by m11stephen Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Some of these things seem pretty petty. The Pre is truly a good device, it really depends on the person buying to determine which one is really better.

Posted by djstarion Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

I love how people will jump to a device that they haven't even touched or used yet.

Posted by rbrown2123 Sunday, Jun 07, 2009 976 days ago

I almost gave up on the Storm, but the new Official update .148 has fix 95% of the bugs. And I type fine on the screen.

Posted by kidqwik Sunday, Jun 07, 2009 976 days ago

Sort of like I did with the Storm... I went from a Pearl to a Storm. Well, I did try the Storm out like the day it was released in the Storm before I bought it that day. I should have realized having Verizon release the phone with THAT OS was a prelude of things to come, as in... Suck phone then, suck phone now...

I will no longer recommend a Storm to anyone. I've had this phone since November and initially I recommended it to people either because I wanted to be hopeful or I wanted them to share my pain of being a Storm owner now that I think back in hindsite. A ton of OS updates later, 6 months later, and the phone is a joke. Some people on here are like "people don't know how to manage it or upgrade the OS". WTF!? It's a phone! You shouldn't have to constantly be on a quest to download and install a new OS to make your phone be a little less dysfunctional than the previous leaked OS! I've done all the updates and the phone STILL sucks! You should be able to use your phone and have it do the things it SUPPOSED TO DO easily and not have all kinds of issues with it! Everyone who owns a Storm and has nothing but praise about it and attacks others who want a Pre or an iPhone is in complete denial or internally SAD that the Blackberry Storm is faulty product that at this point I'm convinced no OS update will fix unless the OS is completely rewritten from scratch and designed exclusively for this phone. Even though I think the hardware has issues that can't be fixed except with a redesign and hardware upgrades of the phone.

Look.. I'll give credit where credit is due. Verizon and RIM released a defective product and they have no bragging rights here to compare their Blackberry Storm as a top product over ANY other phone...

Posted by rellimie Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

As both a Storm and iPhone owner there are plenty of things about this chart that bothers me.

Under "Edit MS Attachments" it says Yes for the Storm, No for the iPhone, and Yes to the Bold but it says Documents to go. I own both a Storm and an iPhone and you need Documents to go on the Storm as well to edit MS attachments. Also, you can edit MS attachments on the iPhone with a 3rd party app.

Under voice-dialing, the iPhone is fully capable via 3rd party apps.

I also don't think that having a category of V CAST with RHAPSODY is a legit line to put on the chart.

Posted by Efstathio Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Documents to go already comes pre-loaded on the Storm. You have to buy it for the iPhone.

Posted by rellimie Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

There are free office products for the iPhone. Don't get me wrong, I love my storm (I use it for work) and as a work phone I wouldn't trade it for the world. I know it it's an advertising ploy but if you are going to use 3rd party apps to substitute as a feature on some phones you should do it for all phones. Why doesn't it have Documents to Go next to the check like it does on the bold?

Posted by cheech4 Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

notice they point out the negatives only!!. they forget to mention that the pre is the only smart phone that can multitask, yes it can run 5-6-7-8 apps at once with out lagging, proof in the pudding in engadget's review. oh lets not forget synergy the ability to combine all you contacts information that is public such as facebook, emails, phones numbers are stack nicely and automatically in one place. oh yeah there's umm WIFI !!! and last but least web OS much more stable than in its launch than that buggy whatcha call storm OS. funny thing is im not a BB hater infact i have a pearl. But im looking to upgrade to either the pre or the tour, but the tour is what i want. But i just hate the way competitors only point out the negatives and not the positives, cuz if you do the Pre will end the storm.

Posted by snowthedirtbub Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Wow, did you not even read it? Who is sending this memo out? Verizon....they have the bold and they are competeing against the palm Pre on another network. Come on its not that hard to see why its focusing on the negatives. Use your brain.

Posted by ChuckH0308 Sunday, Jun 07, 2009 976 days ago

So, I can run 14 or 15 apps on my Storm before it lags? I mean, the Pre looks alright, despite it stupid name, but people sure want to blow it's capabilities out of proportion. Kind of reminds me of all the hype over the Storm before it was released and then when it actually got out to the users everyone was like "WTF?"

Posted by zzycatch Sunday, Jun 07, 2009 976 days ago

"the pre is the only smart phone that can multitask"

I've been seeing this a lot lately and it is just plain untrue. Many (most?) smartphones offer true preemptive multitasking. A simple example is receiving an email while listening to a song. I know my Bold is capable of this and much more.

Also, Synergy offers, from what I can see, no advantage as I am already able to easily connect contact information from a wide range of sources (including all those listed by Palm) into one address book (well three, Outlook + Xobni, shared Exchange, and BB).

The Pre is a fun, unexceptional device.

Posted by Everlast04x Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

the palm pre will be gone in 9 months if a blackberry (whether it be the storm 2 or any other one) doesnt kill it the iphone will.

I think this is basically sprint saying hey look everyone we've got a fancy smart phone too.

Posted by Mharka Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

Look i dont understand why verizon is even doing that because 6 months from now they (verizon) will have the PRE in their shelves.
They made a BIG, HUMONGOUS, GARGANTUAN, mistake by even thinking of comparing the PRE to the STORM. Verizon must be nuts!!!!
Granted I have a blackberry storm, trust me, i will pre order the PRE when it hits verizon.

Posted by dsuycott Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

I have a BB Curve on Verizon and it's the one of the lamest phones i've had, in fact this is my fourth one since october because of those pesky little chinese kids not doing proper QC!! anyway, if i'm not mistaken Sprint uses Verizon and US Cellulars networks for roaming and being in chicago sprint service is not a problem. I'm selling my Curve asap and moving over to the Palm Pre, personally i have no problem with verizon connections most of the time but they cripple the crap out of their phones and charge way too much. with sprint and the pre i'll save about $500-600 a year and have a way better phone...anyone thinking that the Storm is even close to the Pre is waaaaay in denial, the storm is like watching paint dry.

Posted by bigcalidave Monday, Jun 08, 2009 975 days ago

You'll save money, have a pre, and be stuck on sprint WISHING you had verizon still... Have fun!

Posted by BBslim Tuesday, Jun 09, 2009 974 days ago

Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. The first part of your statement is accurate but wishing he was back on Verizon...pfft!! I've been with Sprint for half a decade and have enjoyed near flawless coverage and prompt, helpful customer service. It's funny when I go backpacking in the Rockies here in Colorado and my friends don't have a lick of service and I do....on Sprint!! People are so misinformed.

Posted by JR_Rider Saturday, Jun 06, 2009 977 days ago

I just purchased the Pre this morning and must say that I am extremely impressed thusfar....I look forward to digging deeper into the software to see what the differences I note are though...

BlackBerry Storm vs. Palm Pre, According to Verizon

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