BlackBerry Q10 apps in BlackBerry World to be automatically available for the BlackBerry Passport

By Bla1ze on 31 Jul 2014 12:23 am EDT
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Just as we've seen with previous device releases, BlackBerry has now started sending out emails to developers to let them know if they have a BlackBerry Q10 app in BlackBerry World, that app will automatically be listed as compatible for the upcoming BlackBerry Passport.

Developers have the option of just allowing it to go through or if they feel as though testing on the app should be done before it gets marked as 'Passport ready' they can opt out of the automated process and test their apps to ensure compatibility.

The BlackBerry® Passport will soon join the smartphone product line as one of BlackBerry's most recent innovations. The unique square design features a 1440 x 1440 screen resolution, 1:1 aspect ratio and will support BlackBerry 10 OS version 10.3.

As the release of the BlackBerry Passport approaches, we want to ensure that your apps will be part of the new product launch. To test your existing apps for BlackBerry Passport support, download the gold release of the BlackBerry 10.3 Developer Preview OS. Simulators, SDKs and information to get you started can also be found at this link. The great news for you is that most apps that offer support for BlackBerry Q10 will also function seamlessly on the new smartphone.

For your convenience, we will be automatically expanding your device support to include the BlackBerry Passport for your apps that currently support the BlackBerry Q10.

In the unlikely event that you do not want to support the BlackBerry Passport, you can easily opt-out of this offer by clicking the link below and following the onscreen instructions.

If you're a developer and missed the email, the deadline for opting out is Friday August 8, 2014 at 5:00 PM Eastern. You can head on over to the BlackBerry Developer website to opt out if you wish. For everyone else, this brings us all one step closer to BlackBerry Passport availability. Huzzah!

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BlackBerry Q10 apps in BlackBerry World to be automatically available for the BlackBerry Passport

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Why not all apps, and if they're not optimized for a square screen just code them to display 16:9 or whatever?

Posted via CB10

This sort of question comes up every time, lol. Not all apps translate well, therefore they let devs decide. Let it go through or opt out and test it to be sure. Some apps simply weren't designed with 1440x1440 in mind at the time of their development.

How could it not translate? Consider this phone two Z10 screens side by side, dev cannot tell the app to just run in the center, vertically? I really hope BB does not strip users from already a limited amount of apps available on BB App world, or even worse not being able to run Android apps designed for portrait screens. It would be a real terrible business decision, this device is already being ridiculed enough, even though it is an amazing concept, but not being able to run all those apps will really be the last nail on BB's coffin.
If devs don't do it, BB should implement it in the android runtime/android player (whatever they call it) to trick the apps into thinking they are running on a portrait screen by turning of pixels or by hard coding it, or whatever it is they have to do..

This is why this phone's square screen is a questionable idea. People who want their own apps from an Android or iOS phone won't be able to get them because guess what? ZERO phones are square.

I don't mean the dev, I mean the OS should automatically re-code it. Like how they "magically" (to use their own words) made all Z30 apps work on the Z3. Just check what ratio the app is optimized for, then let it run that way with black rectangles on the side. Is it that hard of a programing trick?

Posted via CB10

You can pull every trick in the book to do it that way but you can't account for every developer's assets and how they coded it.

One just has to look at Android and see how some apps look great on one device and the same app looks terrible on a different device to know that. I can see the terrible skewing of graphics and fonts already if they did that lol.

The Z30 and Z3 is a terrible comparison as well because despite the resolution difference, the apps are still based on the same format of display. Ultimately, it's the same reason they never went Z10 to Q10 automatically.

Z10 to Q10 wouldn't have worked because if you have to squish a Z10 app onto a Q10 screen by blacking out part of the screen it'd be way too small.

To simplify, why won't this work: Clearly BB can "tell" if an app was made for the Q10 cuz all those apps will automatically be available. In the same way, it should be able to tell if the app was for the Z10 and just literally shut off part of the screen so that the available space is the exact size of a Z10 screen (because a Z10 screen already fits onto the passport's). No reprogramming of the app itself required, all you need is recognition on behalf of the OS, which is already built in.

Kind of like watching a full screen youtube video on a Q.

Posted via CB10

Also you might want to swap in higher resolution imagery to work with the higher resolution screen. This is what made "Retina" ready iOS apps different from those that weren't yet "retina-enabled."

What are you talking about? Blackberry world isn't empty!

Posted via CrackBerry 10 (CB10) application using my BlackBerry Q10.

I have all and only native apps that I need on my Q10 and there are thousands more that I've not tested yet or don't see any use for them...yet. BB World covers my app need more than enough, never wanted or needed a zillion apps where most of them do practically the same. In addition, I hardly ever play a game on a smartphone, so no need for game apps.

I wonder if much/any work would be needed to add or make use of the virtual track pad - that will be a great addition to some apps.

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Developers should really double check there apps. The Passport does not blindly double the resolution of everything in the existing apps, and I am finding that most of my apps require some work in order to look nice in the larger screen of the Passport...

I just got my Z30 today but will buy the passport too can't wait

Posted via the awesome power of BlackBerry 10 on one of my lovely devices probably my brand new Z30 or my great Q10 or my beautiful Z10

Just had a V8 moment. The reason for the square screen is the Passport is the upgrade path for my Q10.

All this time I was thinking the follow-on for the Q10 was the Classic. Now everything makes sense. I get a larger screen and get to keep the physical keyboard.

I didn't consider that. I thought this is a new thing and there will still be a Q10 v2 in the future

Posted via CB10 on my BBQ10

I thought, great, Passport a drop-in replacement for the Q10, keep it as a backup device, and just transfer BBID!

Hope everything goes well...

 BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! 

Same reason why I'm thinking of getting the Passport. Love my Q10 but my eyes could use a bigger screen. Gonna be an eyegasm.

May not need/probably shouldn't need Reader Mode and will definitely make viewing spreadsheets and documents much easier. My trick on spreadsheets with my Q10 is "freeze panes"...it allows for much better/quicker utilization.

I hope Verizon will have demo models to be able to see the screen difference in person...from the mock-up comparisons---the difference looks HUGE.

Murray Squire Marr

Why can't (won't) they do this for Z10 to Z30? I'm still missing a few apps I had on my Z10

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This does seem like a bit of a weird decision. The way existing BlackBerry 10 apps typically decide how to do their UI, they'll likely select assets and layouts for the Z10 if run on a Passport. So, I'd expect some randomly squashed splashscreen and wallpaper assets.

Of course I think updating to the new 10.3 UI style will take a lot more work than updating to support the Passport.

And what about Android apps, the majority of which are meant for a rectangular screen?

Posted via CB10

Remember Apple's black space when they switch for iphone 4s to 5? Why can't BlackBerry do that. Black spaces on the left and right

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ENTER THE coupon code "OCTAGONPREMIUM"

Where to enter it?
Open BlackBerry World >swipe downwards from the top of the screen>hit redeem>enter coupon code

It's free and it's native!

Never used the app but it's free.

x24008

The Square Screen Approach was a smart idea. BlackBerry is the only device maker to have one in the market.
I am sure the app situation will rectify itself. This is actually good news.

Posted on my Q5

They need to get Passport out as soon as possible. Not a month or two before the iPhone 6, more like 6+ months sooner.

Despite the Passport blowing away the iPhone 6, Apple has strong marketing $'s. BlackBerry needs to change people's perception, so they too can see how awful iOS is.

Posted on my Q5

The Passport's market niche is peculiar, largely if not exclusively for enterprise. It will be an interesting test. My guess is that everyone will like it's innovative concept, buy I fear market penetration will be limited to those who want qwerty and a large screen. Text/ sheets/ diagrams etc.

Posted via CB10

Stupid answers!!! If not not all the Apps then what will the BlackBerry worth!!!! I was piss off when BB10 didn't have the same Apps as BB7

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Why would it piss you off that an entirely new OS didn't have all the apps of a separate, wholly unrelated OS? That's a YOU problem.

BB7 have LINE and I don't know why BB10 doesn't have LINE??? And BlackBerry upgrades the devices but end up with less Apps. WTF!!! It's like buying a new laptop that can run less programs!!! Don't make sense!!!

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I, for one, am not making any of my apps available for the passport. When creating an app, you create image assets for different screen sizes. All devs have their default image assets optimized for z10 screen size (1280x768). Unless the dev manually updates their app to include the case of screen size of 1440x1440, the app will use image assets optimized for non square screen to populate the screen.

For now, I'm not sure if passport is worth the effort. I may test each individual apps and make ones that look okay available but there's no way I'm downloading a simulator to do that.

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That's too bad, I like your "Make" app since Starbucks hasn't made one for BB10. But I will still get a passport (like I suspect many others) and make do without your apps. Maybe the Starbucks android app will work well instead. But I definitely prefer native BB10 apps, and we do like our coffee to, so I ask you to reconsider this decision.

Z30 Rocks!

This isn't true for all apps, particularly games. Most games have to take into account variable screen sizes anyways, so they just "go with the flow". After that, resolution of imagery becomes an issue but with texture selection and mipmaps it's not a huge issue. When I made NeverMaze and Alpha Memory I just made "liquid" layouts that fit to the screen, and added special code to handle square screens where needed (e.g. the level select screen in Alpha Memory had to specially handle a few buttons). I also chose textures that were higher resolution than current phones, knowing that phone displays always go up. The net result of this is that both those apps work fine on Passport just as on Q10.

So, is it possible to install Android apps to the Passport and runs smooth?

 Posted via CB10 by Z30