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Posted by Riders On The Storm Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I am just curious why you would disable Flash. All everyone has been harping about is "how the Playbook has full web browsing with Flash."

It seems hypocritical to disable a feature on the browser to try to speed it up, if that feature has been a key reason to buy this device. If it has a slower browser say that and then say it can browse the web like a typical PC - that's the tradeoff.

In my opinion, this is not looking so good.

 
 
Posted by ldcmobile Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

There would actually be content the PlayBook is downloading that the iPad2 would not, so there not really apples to apples testing.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Exactly, what's the point of doing a comparison if what you're comparing are "running different races". i.e. Saying that the 200m runner didn't finish as quickly as the 100m racer.

 
 
Posted by Cntdwn Friday, Apr 15, 2011 404 days ago

Haha about the 200M vs 100M. Seems to me there was this whole 150M standoff between Johnson and Bailey. And we all know what happened there XD

But anyway, interesting shootout. Flash no doubt puts some overhead into loading the page, any Webmaster could tell you that. The great part I'm seeing about the PB is you don't get directed to the mobile sites. Man do I hate mobile sites.

Would be nice to see a 'quick on/off' on the main browser bar for Flash. Would be cool to get even more granular and when you bookmark a site, specify if you want flash enabled or disabled when going there. Take the CNN page for example. Flash is only used to display ADS right? I don't need my browser displaying that, not important. I'll kill Flash and keep the overhead down. Now if I always went to ADIDAS, then of course I would want flash enabled.

 
 
Posted by Riders On The Storm Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I absolutely understand there is a difference! It just seems to me the point of buying the Playbook is because you want a Flash enabled browser. So who cares what it can do without Flash?

If I wanted webpages without Flash, I wouldn't waste my time with the Playbook - I would just get the iPad 2.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Exactly. For an Apples to Apples comparison, I wanted to remove that variable since we were visiting the same sites on both devices. The PlayBook also often brings up FULL websites where other tablets bring up lesser versions of sites... so I wouldn't put those head to head either for a speed test.   In everyday use you'll probably leave flash enabled, and you won't care about the lag of a few seconds of extra loading time (besides, with the PlayBook's multitasking ease I find myself jumping into other apps for a few seconds to do something else while a browser page is loading and then jumping back).  All in all, I think it's looking pretty good.

 
 
Posted by Riders On The Storm Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Kevin just replied to my post - that makes my day :)

 
 
Posted by Jeeverz Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Kevin has 3 hands... #justsaying

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I grew a third one.... two for holding a tablet, and one for holding my BlackBerry Smartphone!

 
 
Posted by anastasiophan Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

"We're #1!"

Nicely done! The haters are gonna jump on you for that though....

"Kevin is so unprofessional.....bla bla bla..."

Keep up the good work!

 
 
Posted by 07thking Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Thats all it is, haters gonna hate while players gonna "PLAY" on their "PLAYBOOKS". I'm so excited and can hardly wait for Tuesday! It will get even better with every update and with the release of every quality app! PlayBook #1

 
 
Posted by mckillio Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

The PB is pretty impressive when you consider that Apple has been perfecting essentially the same web browser since the iphone 1. At best this is "version 2" of the webkit browser for BB.

 
 
Posted by slant Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I wonder if the speed difference can be attributed to less compatibility from the iOS side? When you think of it, if the html5 score is that low compared to playbook, could it be that iOS is not properly handling the HTML in general. Which would explain the slight speed advantage. PlayBook browser would be executing more code to properly follow the standards, where as iPad would shortcut or even leave out some. They're both built on webkit afterall.

 
 
Posted by godfada Friday, Apr 15, 2011 403 days ago

There is review done by Anandtech that i think addresses the issue in my perspective. Playbook wifi is a bit slower than the other IOs tablets. He did some in depth tests in his review. The main connection right now to the WEB is through wifi, so i am thinking if data packets are coming in slower than the other tablets, the issue might not be Playbook's WEB loading ability, but rather it wifi. which may be able to be resolve using software update.

 
 
Posted by diego.roscetti Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Loving the little wave u gave to the iPad at the end. Too funny.

 
 
Posted by SharpieFiend Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

How long is it going to take for someone to make adblock for the Playbook? :)

 
 
Posted by mckillio Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

More importantly, flash block.

 
 
Posted by gizmojoc Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

It does look pretty good and for blackberry users who have to wait 3 hours to load a page on their phones, this is freaking awsome, but for some reason i dont see, iphone, android or other phones users buying a playbook...Lets see i hope im wrong been a Bold 9700 user and fan...

 
 
Posted by mckillio Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

It's not for sale yet and I'm pretty sure there haven't been many stats/surveys on pre-orders.

 
 
Posted by anty3139 Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I like the comparison and we also have to acknowledge that its a second generation iPad against RIM's first tablet. I'm pretty sure Apple did some adjustments from iPad to iPad2. Not sure if Kevin has access to a first generation iPad and compare RIM's PlayBook.

 
 
Posted by gordongr Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I'm curious who will be the 1rst to make a tablet able to call. This 7 inch would be perfect for a lot of people to carry in a purse & use bluetooth for phone calls

 
 
Posted by MattDub22 Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

HUGE +1 !!!!!!

 
 
Posted by Derwent Graphite Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

1st Gen tablet from RIM head-to-head with Apple's SECOND gen tablet... definitely looking good my crackberry friends.

 
 
Posted by VZNBerry Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

The problem is even the 1st gen Ipad, was way more polished than the playbook. User experience counts, they should have waited longer, or focus more on performance as opposed to features like flash, etc. It looks like storm 1 and the Tour all over again: great idea - poor execution.

 
 
Posted by crazy canuck Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

why the emphasis on the SECOND? it is irrelevant what version it is. a true comparison to say on April 14, 2011, the then current generally available devices did x,y,z in a comparison.

otherwise if i build a car tomorrow and bake it off against ford i could say my version 1 is better than ford's version 76 or whatever release they are on. it also makes no sense to compare v1.0 of playbook to version 1.0 of ipad. Again using my analogy my new car should be then compared to ford's first model-T from 100 years ago?!?!?

 
 
Posted by VZNBerry Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Can anyone address that BGR found that if you have multiple tabs/browser windows open, the browser reloads once a tab/window selected, that's deal killer for me. I have to use multiple windows all the time and can't wait for them to reload on 3G network.

 
 
Posted by greatness10 Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

this does NOT happen. BGR is beyond biased in their reporting. They are huge apple fans. Take everything that they said with a grain of salt. If its not apple, they aren't interested.

 
 
Posted by alex_121 Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

So i went to the html5test.com website from my torch and i got a score of 240 plus 3 bonus points. So my torch beat the ipad 2, yessss!!! lol

 
 
Posted by Caspan Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

What would be nice is an option to do a "click to play"! I use Google's Chrome browser and one of the advance features is the ability to never load any plugin! If the web page does require a plugin then it render a gray box the same size as the flash ad or player and has "Click to Play" written in it. I never have to load anything that I don't want to. If a site has flash and I want to see it then I click on that gray square and only that element loads. No wasting time downloading flash content I don't care to see plus its secure so it does not load by default saving me time and creating security!

 
 
Posted by 19GhostRider71 Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I will be waiting for awhile before I get a PB so the apps can catch up. (Hoping Autodesk puts their AutoCAD WS app on PB)

Interesting note : My torch's web browser gets 233 points plus one bonus point on the html5 test website.

 
 
Posted by xlowdownx Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Nice watch... Reviewer... Pam 312?

Thanks for posting.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

good eye. yeah... love me some panerai.

 
 
Posted by enots27 Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

Just run the html5 test on my bold 9700 running os6 and got scored 240 plus 3 bonus points. Scores more than the ipad 2.

 
 
Posted by iSuni Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

This review did it for me , going for an iPad 2 instead of the Playbook. The overall experience seems far more enjoyable and that's all I'm really looking from my first tablet. Even without flash.

 
 
Posted by kcmo Thursday, Apr 14, 2011 404 days ago

I'm still very concerned about the form factor....seriously considering the iPad 2 as well instead, as much as I LOVE BB. I need something to replace my dying laptop and I browse a lot! Also concerned about the small virtual keyboard that takes up so much screen space as compared to the iPad 2. Eeeeeks.....

 
 
Posted by Nerazzurro Friday, Apr 15, 2011 403 days ago

Even if the pb might lag some, its nothing more than a few software updates and it should be good to go. And one thing to not forget, this will be the first tablet by Rim while Apple have had its predecessor aka the ipad on the market for a long time. And ofc people would slam it OFC comparing to the ipad.

EITHER u buy it or NOT.

 
 
Posted by Gamesdmc3 Saturday, Apr 16, 2011 403 days ago

no flash is a bad move for ipad2

 
 
Posted by AwJm Saturday, Apr 16, 2011 402 days ago

What's with the checker board when the browser is loading or being panned ??

 
 
Posted by PRE7ORIANO Wednesday, Nov 09, 2011 195 days ago

I finally purchased my 64GB Blackberry Playbook for $300 and I LOVE IT!