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Posted by noTh1ng Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

i want this for my blackberry as well! i hate the carrier update system...

 
 
Posted by kameleon Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Not bad. Can't wait till they enable the option to not need a reboot though.

 
 
Posted by peter9477 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Even with QNX, some updates will always require a reboot.

Besides, it's often a lot easier (on the devs, and for testing) to just force a reboot anyway, even if they could technically get away without it. I won't be surprised if we don't see updates without reboots for a year or two, if ever.

It's not like this is a critical feature... how often do you think there will be updates anyway, and how hard is it to take a few minutes to reboot?

 
 
Posted by Joe257 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

I disagree. System reboots should not be the norm. Each time you reboot your system, you are disrupted from your work, you've got to save or lose data, and if this is a phone, you're likely missing incoming calls. I have on many occasions and it's not pretty. People start thinking you're screening them out!

This is not a PC but an always on, always ready to go device, with push messaging. Rebooting, as my current BlackBerry does for 5 minutes, is just unacceptable. I can't take photos in that timeframe, I can't look up a contact, I can't check my calendar, I can't respond to BBMs, I can't receive video calls.

Certainly, shortening the reboot time to 30 seconds or so would be a great first start, but if the system doesn't need to be rebooted at all for most application installs, that would be ideal... and a great, great selling point for the PlayBook over the competition :) I say leverage what you've got! Take full advantage of all the pluses QNX brings.

 
 
Posted by ligh7ning Friday, Apr 15, 2011 403 days ago

Haha, is a few minutes of not being able to use your phone/PlayBook really that big of a deal? How are you even able to use your phone every waking minute of the day, that five minutes is a major issue? What company do you keep that due to a chosen five minute window of no phone service after a firmware update-let's say, once a month at most-results in adverse, paranoid reactions like that?

Do you require use of the camera that frequently that any five minute window of down time could potentially result in a catastrophic missed photo opportunity? Can't you look up contacts and calendar entries on your computer for five minutes? Do all BBMs have to be replied to within five minutes? Do you do that much critical video calling that, in the extremely improbable chance that you actually receive a video call [on a phone without a front-facing camera, no less] within any given five minute period of a random day, that you cannot receive it again five minutes later? Surely there is at least one single five minute period in your day that you aren't using your phone...

Also, how do you expect always-in-use critical system files to be updated on ANY device whilst the device is using them? A reboot is the only way that ensures these types of files can be updated properly.

Maybe you should just never update the firmware of your devices. That way you will never again have to waste valuable minutes of [potential?] BlackBerry use while your device restarts after one of these 'unacceptable' reboots following a firmware update. Problem solved...

 
 
Posted by cas118 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Remember that apps will NOT require a reboot as they do at the moment.

Core updates will change the kernal. The PlayBook doesn't have to update, buit it's a good idea to make sure that the 3rd party apps that are plugged into it behave properly.

This is so very much easier than some *better* mobile OSes out there ;)

 
 
Posted by SharpieFiend Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

The first update is mandatory, but I'm not so sure about future updates. I wonder if they'll have mandatory and optional updates?

 
 
Posted by Snipperdo17 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

android reboots after a software update....

 
 
Posted by SharpieFiend Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

QNX sandboxes all running processes except for the base kernel, so a reboot is only required when the kernel gets updated. Also, when a process crashes the system does not go down, the kernel just closes and restarts that process/app. This is light-years ahead of what us BB folks are used to! :)

 
 
Posted by narci Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Finally, a changelog from RIM.

 
 
Posted by kcmo Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Wow, very cool!

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

what's the point of these articles if the thing is not out yet?
and from what ive seen i still cant find a single valid reason for average consumer to buy it

 
 
Posted by enzo07i Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

what's the point of you visiting crackberry, we don't need you here

 
 
Posted by Chronos88 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

So that the staff can get all of this information out there ahead of time and have a full library of help articles on the product so that when someone buys one one, they can quickly and easily find all the info they need on CrackBerry. It amazes me how stupid people are on this website...

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

what's the point of these articles if the thing is not out yet?
and from what ive seen i still cant find a single valid reason for average consumer to buy it

 
 
Posted by stranger99 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

You haven't figured out how to post once either.

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

i just found one!......

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The Jakarta Post

 
 
Posted by Shamwari Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

onberry, you seriously need help

 
 
Posted by Shamwari Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

onberry, you seriously need help, whats wrong with seeing what to expect for the wonderful PB coming in just a little over a week?

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Shamwari, if you dont know what to expect from yet another RIM soon to be RIP product you are the one who needs help.
cant wait for the reviews from people who bought it....

 
 
Posted by edyts Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

onberry, your hatred of RIM is noted, please stop wasting your time writing negative stuff. Ok the playbook isnt for you, get an ipad and makes sure your mom packs it in your bag with your lunch and leave us alone.

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

edy, i dont have a ipad, im no fan boy of apple or rim but if you dont see that for the past three years rim has been fixing their fxxck ups at our expense make sure your parents leave you a nice inheritance or start saving your lunch $ ....youll need it.
have fun with you playbook :)
but dont expect much, the usual glitches and bugs and rim's promises to fix them with the release of next os.

 
 
Posted by SharpieFiend Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Just because you're poor and can't afford a Playbook doesn't mean the rest of us can't. I for one will get a lot of use out of mine when it arrives at my door next week. :)

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

im looking forward to making more money shorting RIMM

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Where'd you read that term at, Yahoo! Finance?

 
 
Posted by edyts Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

For sure, saved tons of lunch money, im freakin hungry. QNX on the Playbook is not the same as the os's they run on their phones its a whole new beast. Yeah i expect some glitches as i do with first gen of any tech product, but from what ive seen/read the playbook is going to be perfect for me. I was just saying if its not what your gonna get then why are you wasting your time posting about it on these forums when you could be researching something that is for you. Just move on already.

 
 
Posted by Shamwari Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

onberry, well noted, now go and sit somewhere, you are right about one thing, the reviews will confirm what we all know including you that the PB rocks, now i understand the PB may not be for you but thats no reason for you to come here and wish RIM was dead, you are the same person who has been proclaiming the death of RIM for the last few years and yet year after year RIM post impressive numbers.

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

yes, those numbers were impressive for rim but if you compare them to other companies...no
and its because rim is so successful that they want to open up to android...long term its not good for rim
sincerely gl with your playbook,
its just a healthy criticism not hate, i just wish for once rim would release the product thats ahead of the competition.

 
 
Posted by onbberry Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

yes, those numbers were impressive for rim but if you compare them to other companies...no
and its because rim is so successful that they want to open up to android...long term its not good for rim
sincerely gl with your playbook,
its just a healthy criticism not hate, i just wish for once rim would release the product thats ahead of the competition.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Stop with the hate. It is not good for your health! Besides we don't care to hear your diatribe, we are too excited about getting our Playbooks! :)

 
 
Posted by dennie82 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Will the PlayBook takes 7 minutes to boot up just like my 9700?

 
 
Posted by XPEH Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Takes 50 seconds to a minute on a video posted here a few weeks back.

 
 
Posted by c0rinne Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

My 9700 only takes about a minute. What did you do to yours?

 
 
Posted by SharpieFiend Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

I recommend you update from OS 5.0.0 to the latest OS6 to solve that problem....

 
 
Posted by rdsookey Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

my 9700 boots up in about a minute and a half.....

 
 
Posted by Randyburgja Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

My 9700 boots in under a minute

 
 
Posted by blackcaneaddict Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

MY 9700 boots up....whoops, *Curve* takes around 5mins.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Monday, Apr 11, 2011 407 days ago

Yipes, I'm a little worried what will happen when a million of us all try to update on April 19th :D OK maybe not a million but a lot!

 
 
Posted by Gamesdmc3 Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 406 days ago

reminds me of a ps3 firmware update

 
 
Posted by Omnitech Friday, Apr 15, 2011 403 days ago

One of the most serious problems with the traditional Blackberry OS in my opinion is the software update process. I have never had any computer or device in my life (and I've been working professionally in I.T. for over 20 years) that completely wiped the entire device of all data and operating system files just to do an OS update! (Can you imagine every time Microsoft released a few patches on monthly "Patch Tuesday", that it forced a complete wipe and reinstallation of your entire Windows OS?!?)

That in itself wouldn't necessarily be a show-stopper if it weren't for the fact that the part of the update that re-populates the device didn't lose all sorts of important data!! MANY applications completely lose their data, customizations and license/registration during that procedure, which is completely and utterly inexcusable.

I sure hope this new generation solves that problem once and for all. It has really been a major major black mark on the Blackberry's reputation for years now.

 
 
Posted by jkrist Monday, Apr 18, 2011 400 days ago

Just got my first unit and tried to connect it to my Home WiFi. Ran into issues right away.

1) The unit complained that it could not connect to the Update Server. The screen had just one button called 'Settings', clicking which it took me to the Wi-Fi setup page where it said it is already connected to my Home Wi-Fi !!!!

2) I clicked Disconnect on the screen and clicked reconnect on my Home Wi-Fi. Like on any other device I would have expected it to remember my password. Nopes. Had to re-enter my password again

3)This time around when it got to the Update screen it started downloading the 200 MB software and then started installing it

4) Once installed the unit restarted and then....

hours upon hours and I am looking at those colorful circles with BlackBerry PlayBook scribed in the middle of the screen: the unit refuses to come back to any screen which may be called 'user-interactable'

5) I called in RIM support and ran into a rather 'lazy' sounding guy who first had to register me before he could help me out

6) After getting registered (and agreeing to terms and conditions) I was told that since the servers are very slow today therefore I have to wait this process out. I politely told the guy on the other end of the line that the PlayBook has successfully downloaded and installed what it needed to but he insisted that it is still downloading something over the air. I looked at my modem and the traffic light is not blinking which means that no data is being downloaded.

Now I am left looking at a useless piece of device which seems only to be able to display colored circles :-(

 
 
Posted by muama6 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

My playbook just arrived, but when I install the latest version of the OS: 1710 on the step 4 of this article I swipe to continue and nothing happens, the text disappear and my Playbook do nothing! Did anyone can help me with this issue????

Thanks!

 
 
Posted by engmessam Friday, Jan 13, 2012 131 days ago

I have just purchased my playbook and i am trying to get started but there is a problem.
Everytime it starts to update software it says "can not update this device. check settings".
Dont know what to do?