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Posted by mscooley Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

This would be cool. First.

 
 
Posted by Birddog2 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I like the way you think, however once it is off with a two finger swipe, does that mean i have to hit the button to get it on again? How about adding a 'sleep' option to the Power Off Button?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

NOOOOOOO.... a SINGLE swipe bezel to bezel still powers it on. This puts it into standby. For FULL POWER DOWN you'd still go by the normal method (click the power button on the OS and choose to power down or press and hold on power button for two seconds to get the pop up where you can choose to restart or shut down).

The double swipe would act the same as a tap of the power button... simply turning off the display..which is what you do the majority of the time.

 
 
Posted by Five50What Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

My PlayBook has the option to put into StandBy mode from the Power Button(wonder if anyone else's PB has the feature)
...I do like your idea of 2finger bezel gesture for StandBy as well...

**Update: PowerButton/StandBy Option only on OS that is shipped with device(during initial SetUp). Once initial setup is done and "forced OS update" is completed, that feature is no-more".**

Also, with previous .16xx OS builds, PB is able to charge with any micro USB charger. However, with .1710 update, only BB charger will charge PB.

 
 
Posted by Kiddo2050 Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 392 days ago

I like this idea and when showing it to others you could tell them that you have to say "sleep" at the same time, some might believe it ;-)

 
 
Posted by Birddog2 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I like the way you think, however once it is off with a two finger swipe, does that mean i have to hit the button to get it on again? How about adding a 'sleep' option to the Power Off Button?

 
 
Posted by drethos Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Corner in diagionally because the playbook may confuse it when playing nfs.

 
 
Posted by kevin.mcca Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

im typing this comment from my playbook!!:D

 
 
Posted by streak81 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

this would be awesome! Better yet would have this gesture launch the power off app with the addition of a standby option...then at least you can decide what you want to do.

 
 
Posted by streak81 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

oh and ps: make this only available from the home screen...devs may like to add a two finger swipe down in apps

 
 
Posted by lonestar1135 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I would like for there to be a gesture to swipe between tabs in the browser. Swiping down and then tapping what tab I want is so old school. Two finger swipe from side, swiped between tabs.

 
 
Posted by mckillio Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Wouldn't three fingers be better since using two you could accidentally turn it on/off when doing normal one finger gestures?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Not necessary.  FULL LENGTH bezel to bezel gestures are very pronounced.  Accidentally doing a full length two figure bezel to bezel gesture while using the device is never gonna happen. It's not just from one bezel... you have to drag all the way across to the second bezel. 

 

 

 
 
Posted by ItsAllAboutTheBenjamins13 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

That would be awesome. Power button obsolete!

 
 
Posted by Jenks5150 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

lol let's not get carried away here -

But Kevin's idea is great. It's practical and I would certainly use it.

 
 
Posted by ruiner666 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

You can just swipe your finger across the screen to wake it from standby and just use the power off button in the all apps category to turn it off. The only time you really need to use the power button on the top is to turn it on after it's been shut down. Why is everybody whining about the power button?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

The power button in the all apps category isn't for putting the device into standby.. that's for either a Full Power Down or a Restart (plus it's slow to use that as it literally opens an app to power down).  I'm talking about you just put the PlayBook out of your hand onto the coffee table, or you're quitting using it to put into the case. You don't use the full power down (or else you're waiting again to restart it..that's dumb).... you just want to kill the display as you're done using it. Currently you have to tap the power button to do that, which is a bit of a pain. You can swipe bezel to bezel to power on the display from standby... a two finger swipe would power it down to standby.

it's intuitive, is in the same context as the gesture already there, and would make people stfu about the power button as then you'd really not need it at all.

 
 
Posted by jgenn3 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Thanks for the tip on the 1 finger bezel to bezel wake up. I was hitting the power button to wake it up. I guess I need to take a Playbook class. :)

 
 
Posted by rich007007 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Yup yup!

 
 
Posted by ianbordas Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Good idea! Lets hope RIM is getting all feeds from CB & Kevin's requests!! Keep 'em coming!

BTW, I just had my 1st official business meeting using the PB as my sales tool!! it went Awesome!! I was able to copy price lists, excel reports OTA wifi from my workstation, was able to view vendor's website and go to emails for reference and SHOW OFF my beautiful PB!!!

KEVIN, pls ask for this feature: THE OPTION TO FIND (like ctrl+f on PC) to search for part numbers, or specific chapters, names or references on big EXCEL. PDF and WORD files. I guess this is more for DOCS TO GO & ADOBE than RIM... tks!

 
 
Posted by ldcmobile Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I would just like to say, that I posted the same idea on 04/22
http://twitter.com/#!/a1by/status/61548214167412737

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

haha. congrats. great minds think alike. I actually thought about it like two weeks ago (right after i put up our review and saw all the power button complaints on all the reviews).. just forgot to blog it up and then remembered on friday then the easter weekend hit and just finally posted today.  i'm sure many people have had similar thoughts.

 
 
Posted by cdulong Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Totally agree Kevin!!!

Awesome idea.

Here is for hoping that RIM takes your suggestion and runs with it....

 
 
Posted by blackcaneaddict Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 393 days ago

you know their listening if this comes to pass. I agree though. good idea.

 
 
Posted by 123berryaddicted Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Sounds awesome Kevin! RIM should employ you! LoL
- one thing that we really really need for the pb is silverlight support. We have flash which is great. But perhaps you can put a buz in RIMS ear about silverlight - what happened to "web without compromise" !!! Thanks Kevin

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

We DO NEED SILVERLIGHT SUPPORT in the web browser.

gave my gf's dad (73 years old) a PlayBook this weekend... they're italian... they want to watch their Rai.TV shows on the playbook... no go.. they use the silverlight plugin on that site.  Booooo :(

 
 
Posted by Xader Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Not to mention Netflix Watch Instantly uses Silverlight...

 
 
Posted by PostMortem Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I agree with 123berryaddict, Kevin. We need to get the word out to have the PB support silverlight. We have to keep working towards the "we without compromise" that was talked about.

 
 
Posted by SurrealCivic Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Good suggestion Kevin.. I hope it gets implemented..

 
 
Posted by dcsappernh Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

What a really clever idea! Come on RIM what say you?

 
 
Posted by Darlaten Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

So your saying that every single owner of a Playbook should bombard RIM with email requesting this feature which should have been there in the first place in the hopes that they will listen to us and update it in a future update? I like that idea!

 
 
Posted by dcabuckeye Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

This just seems so logical. Good idea there Kevin. RIM genuinely seems to be listening and watching. They are totally devoted to this platform, so I have no doubt that we'll see fast and furious development. Keep on 'em Kevin and THANK YOU!

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

ANOTHER OPTION:

If we don't want to enter the world of the two finger bezel gesture on the playbook, you could also do bezel to bezel SWIPE DOWN for powering on, and bezel to bezel SWIPE UP for power off. Like zipping a jacket open and closed. Could even give it an animiated graphical effect and zipping sound to match. Hawt!

 
 
Posted by mohawk rcer Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

this would be sweet i like it

 
 
Posted by Marc_Paradise Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

That wouldn't work so well, only because the swipe up has separate meaning - and in order to be responsive it can't wait to see if you're going to continue the swipe all the way to the opposite bezel, it needs to respond as soon as it sees the gesture.

The two finger swipe gets around this (and is a great idea) because it won't interfere with any other system gestures.

Another step in the right direction would be a way to temporarily disable bezel swipes - perhaps with a specific swipe of its own? I find it annoying when using apps that take you right up to the screen's edge... constantly swiping into the next task by accident. (Air Hockey, I'm looking at you!)

And while we're going crazy, what about user defined swipes? Launch specific apps, etc...

 
 
Posted by arlanda Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 77 days ago

"user defined swipes" would be great!

 
 
Posted by The_Adventist Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I'm off to buy my 64G right now.

Kevin, your idea sounds great. You of all people can get RIM to listen.

Get r dun Kevin.

****EDIT****

64G PlayBook ordered...now I have to wait until this Sunday to pick it up!!! This will be a long week.

 
 
Posted by tenniscpa Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Sounds like everyone hates the power button. I have no problem with it and it works fine.

 
 
Posted by Marc_Paradise Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I don't mind the power button - if it turned off the screen on simple press, that woudl be perfect. But as it is, the only way to turn off the screen without turning off the device... is to wait for it to time out.

 
 
Posted by dumb4ever Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

How about all gestures uses 2 fingers, and to turn it off use 3 fingers ?

I'm sure others have had problems with scrolling web pages and accidentally swipe up the menu....

 
 
Posted by rstevenw Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I like this idea! I was just thinking that there should be an easier way to turn off the screen by using swiping.

 
 
Posted by endo4ryan Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

it's the little things like this that would make the playbook even easier to use. i'm down.

 
 
Posted by sylvaing Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

My idea was to move from bezel to bezel (like to turn on) and then back to the original bezel (like up - down - up).

 
 
Posted by kevin.mcca Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

anybody knows when will the bbm on the blckberry bridge be available??

 
 
Posted by forsakenwaste5 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

not going to happen. it could maybe in 2 years?

 
 
Posted by ippyg Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

That's a genius idea! If they don't do it, maybe we can petition for it via twitition. The tiny power button is a bit of a pain so as a temp. power option, that would be brilliant!

 
 
Posted by jmac875 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I agree we need the Two Finger Swipe- TFS....

 
 
Posted by ckinglam Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I agree a thousand times!

 
 
Posted by mobiltechninja Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Totally support this great idea! Very practical & easy to implement via an OS update. I hope that RIM is listening.

I also hope that the next rev of the hardware finally resolves the underlying design issue. Users shouldn't be afraid to press their $700 tablet's power button ...

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Kudos to you for this well thought out "quick fix"! Hope there isn't some sort of patent on two finger swipes by you know who ;-)

 
 
Posted by FTMFW Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I would rather have the side bezels used as scrolling for the internet broswer, since the screen is packed with most of the web page. I always catch myself stoping or playing a video, opening a unwanted link etc etc. Get on it rim! Please and thanks. But I also see how it would be a bad idea at the same time since we tend to hold it by the bezel.

 
 
Posted by mikegcox Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I think a pinch gesture on the bezel is much more intuitive. It would be as if you are closing its eye. Just to be clear, finger on the top bezel, a thumb on the bottom bezel and then close them together.

 
 
Posted by curve1967 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Totally agree Kevin!!!

 
 
Posted by a54 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Want to add that I think this is a good idea. But should it be three fingers?

 
 
Posted by gord888 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

2, 3... doesn't matter. i like the idea regardless!

 
 
Posted by teamfoster03 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

+1
This is a great idea.
If for some reason another the 2 fingure swipe isnt possible I vote for an improvement to the power off app. when you click it you get 3 options Power off, standby or cancel.

oh yeah and +1 for silverlight, I need netflix on PB

 
 
Posted by grreyes24 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

I gotta say, when i read this earlier today I thought, what is everyones problem with the power button. I never had a problem with it. I was always able to turn it off on my first try, even if I couldn't see it, but i just now bought the BB PlayBook Journal case and now it is hard as hell to turn off my PlayBook. I don't want to return the case because it looks so damn good so now I'm on board with some other way to turn the screen off. Actually, I just wish the closing the case turned off the screen. I actually thought I read before that this case is supposed to have power saving features. I'm not seeing any.

 
 
Posted by arlanda Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 77 days ago

"closing the case to turn off the screen" (aka holster) is a great idea too in addition to 2-finger bezel to bezel swipe

 
 
Posted by peter9477 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Using a gesture to put the device in stand-by is pretty obvious, but picking a two-finger swipe is an arbitrary, unnecessary and non-discoverable choice.

I had suggested at first that the single-finger bezel-to-bezel swipe should just put it back into sleep, but (duh!) obviously that will not work well with the current UI where the gesture would activate an existing function (e.g. swipe between apps) before it has completed.

Unfortunately, I don't think the two-finger approach is a big improvement. I did earlier suggest using the bottom-right swipe (which seems to be vacant) for a user-programmable feature, which could include enabling standby. I still think that sort of idea is better than adding yet another gesture for people to learn. Some people are overly gesture-happy.

 
 
Posted by ryguy2008 Monday, Apr 25, 2011 393 days ago

Unfortunately RIM will be unlikely to implement this now :P. Most companies cannot accept unsolicited ideas due to legal reasons...

 
 
Posted by Schlymer Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 393 days ago

Hey Crackberry Kevin,

What a great idea! I know RIM may be not able to take unsolicited advise, but they are listening. I am surprised RIM doesn't put you on the payroll. Keep up the good work.

 
 
Posted by Schlymer Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 393 days ago

Also Kevin, I would like to see a 3D middle finger app from Crackberry.com, and supply free 3D glasses to ipad 2 owners. How about them apples?

 
 
Posted by MarkInTombstone Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 393 days ago

What if a person doesn't have 2 fingers, what then?

 
 
Posted by the brother Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 392 days ago

you're absolutely spot on there, son. this idea should allow for thumbs and toes too. while we're at it, let's allow for a 2 tongue lick?

 
 
Posted by tayshun12 Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 393 days ago

Great idea if it were only on the homescreen!!

 
 
Posted by pzaman Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 392 days ago

THANK YOU! Great idea! My PB does not have the slightly raised power button and it is a pain to use, esp. when it is in the convertible case. I have to pry it partially out of the case to turn it off - hard to do in the dark on the airplane!

 
 
Posted by coconutpies Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 392 days ago

A bezel to bezel swipe of some kind would be GREAT to just shut off or lock the screen. I never use the power button. It is so tiny and dose not work well with my nails. I simply lay it down and wait. But like Kevin mentioned is kind of a pain when I am ready to put it away. A quick swipe and the screen goes off would make things better. The option to have it lock the screen or not would be an added bonus. I like being able to lock my torch on command, or just be able to put it in standby mode depending on where I am or where I am going to put it.

 
 
Posted by Gamesdmc3 Friday, Apr 29, 2011 389 days ago

i would rather write off on the screen to turn it off lol

 
 
Posted by peterco Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 388 days ago

Great idea!! Total support for this...i sure hope the post about companies not being able implement unsolicited ideas is false.....many of the best improvements on products come from the users.

 
 
Posted by jajano Saturday, Jun 04, 2011 353 days ago

vote +1