BlackBerry Pearl 9105 to Have T9 Style Keyboard?
Disclaimer: Image is a **mockup** of how the 9105 might look.
There have been so many rumblings lately on the BlackBerry Pearl 9100 front that I wish it would just get announced already. WES is just a month away, so maybe they'll do it up then. We've seen loads of photos, mixed bits of info and even a possible release date. Now BBnews.pl has some new info and it appears as if the BlackBerry Pearl 9105 may be part of the series and sporting a classic T9-style keyboard. We know the 9100 will carry the Pearl SureType keyboard, and we've seen what could be a full QWERTY keypad coming to a new Pearl as well (though possibly that will be a new Pearl flip), but this 12-button layout looks to be a natural fit on the 91xx candy bar form factor. Suffice to say that with a device like this RIM is making it clear that they're really pumping out the designs and form factor options in trying to make sure there is a BlackBerry device that appeals to everyone as more of the mainstream consumer feature phone market makes the upgrade into smartphones. Drop a comment and let us know what you think!
Source: BBnews.pl
Shoftiel37 Mar 31, 2010 at 9:41 am
Though I understand trying to appeal to everyone, to me a T9 keyboard seems like a big step backwards. that said my finance who still loves her LG may be able to transfer to BB easier ff she doesn't have to learn to type on a QWERTY keyboard. she is super fast on T9... We shall see....
StaplesJohn Mar 31, 2010 at 11:34 am
I have both now like I did with the Palm Treo, which allows for very great speeds when you catch on through practice. Blackberry Bold 9000 with OS 5
Gawain Mar 31, 2010 at 9:41 am
...what's the point of a T9? I guess it's for those that want to read, but not necessarily respond to their messages?
afropoika Mar 31, 2010 at 10:32 am
For one it will make easier to type in Scandinavian languages. Nokia rules the field here right now, and if I have the possibility to get back to T9 while still owning a BlackBerry, that would be great!
Rhoq Mar 31, 2010 at 9:41 am
Suretype was "pushing it". A T9 style keyboard defeats the purpose of BlackBerry, entirely.
stoneland Mar 31, 2010 at 9:42 am
Isn't this defeating the purpose of a BlackBerry?
Seegar Mar 31, 2010 at 9:43 am
I dont really like the idea of that. Blackberry is about communicating. typing on the old T9 style keyboard is a pain. I just came from a phone with a keyboard like that and dont even want to think about typing like that again. I think the suretype was a good mix between a T9 and a full keyboard, they should stick to it.
synwars Mar 31, 2010 at 9:45 am
That is kind of sad really, going away from the idea of a smartphone look and feel. Full QWERTY, IMHO, is one of the things that separate a smartphone from a dumbphone. How is T9 in any way smart? Even SureType works flawlessly in comparison to T9. Don't fix what ain't broken!
Maybe the only benefit I can see is it might attract more from the dumbphone market to come over. Perhaps they just love T9 too much to make the jump? Somehow I don't think so...
dbK Mar 31, 2010 at 9:51 am
Is there anything about that image that doesn't scream "FAKE" at the top of its lungs? The entire thing is pixelated, even moreso around the Blackberry-esque features - the screened earpiece, the BB logo, the BB button, and the keyboard.
joeldf Mar 31, 2010 at 10:04 am
BBleaks, who posted that image too, admits that it's just a representation of how it "possibly" might look - a mockup. Crackberry needs to add that disclaimer too.
gregerator Mar 31, 2010 at 10:11 am
OK, so I had the 8100 for 2 years+. I could type like mad on that thing. It took me MAYBE 2 weeks to get used to it. After my 8100, I switched tot he 8900 and a full qwerty. It took me over a month to get used to it. Now I can type pretty well. But at the moment, while my BB is getting replaced, I'm on a loaner Moto with T9 keypad. Ugh! I hate messaging with this thing! My replacement is presently now in my hometown to be delivered today, thank God. Why RIM would do this I can't fathom. Perhaps they have found a way to change your keypad? You could choose SureTYpe/T9/QWERTY? 9100/9105/9110? That would take a lot of work tho.
FrankCM Mar 31, 2010 at 10:01 am
nooo!! This is not a BlackBerry!!
uniquejain Mar 31, 2010 at 10:06 am
T9 may appeal to everybody but it defeats the purpose of u owning a blacakberry rather than a simple T9 phone.....
Blackberry is all about communicating and if its not QWERTY its not blackberry.
Lord_Tubington Mar 31, 2010 at 10:57 am
QWERTY is not for everyone just like SureType isn't for everyone. I personally prefer the larger SureType keys on the 81XX series over the single-character QWERTY design any day. Less keys = less movement = faster typing.
Before I migrated to BlackBerry, I used a Samsung flip. While at first I was stubbord to learn T9, I was thankful I did. While some may see it as a leap backwards here, I see it as appealing to a broader audience and expanding your consumer market. It's not like RIM is putting a rotary dialer on the front of the damn thing.
Just like they how they ship out different models with varying features every year (Trackpad but no camera flash, Wi-Fi but no CDMA or EVDO) it would make sense to include different keypad designs to increase their targeted audience. Let's face it. Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone is as eager as the rest of us to bite the bullet and learn how to use SureType or QWERTY just to have the latest and greatest smartphone.
Being a tech support agent for an American phone company, one of the most common complaints I get from new members receiving their BlackBerry 83XX series is that they find it too hard to type with.
If RIM released a T9 version of every current BlackBerry model in cycle right now, it could drastically increase revenue for them as well as the carriers. Almost all carriers make a BlackBerry data plan mandatory with a BlackBerry smartphone. Imagine all those folks who want a PDA phone and who would be willing to fork out the $$ for the data plan if they could actually use the damn keyboard.
While to me learning how to use either SureType or QWERTY should not throw one's universe out of alignment, and the end result should be worth ten-fold the trouble was, they're certainly not for everyone. And although QWERTY has stood the test of time and has been around ever since the first RIM pagers were designed, I try to remain non-partisan and realize that not everyone is going to want to learn and/or enjoy it.
So if this is the next step for RIM to increase their number of potential customers, then kudos to them.
To me, its simply taking a product that has already been designed for ease-of-use, and to be loved by millions of users right out of the box, and enhancing it further to be loved by millions more. Sometimes enhancing something doesn't always mean sticking something "new" on it. If T9 is really what some consumers want, then give the people what they want.
ramrunnr Mar 31, 2010 at 1:39 pm
This is hitting nail right on the head here. Think of this as a "StarterBerry". There are several large differences between BBs and other "not-as-smart-as-a-BB" smart phones compared to the so called phone-first devices. One of the largest hurdles for some people is the Keyboard, both QWRTY and SureType. I tried to get my sister on a Pearl and she hated the keyboard and would not give it a few weeks to get use to it. She has a Sony Ericsson W580 (her third SE phone, the best phone manufacturer behind RIM, IMHO) and she can just pump out the messages on it and she doesn't even use the T9! She multi taps! The whole if you want the letter "c" you press the "2" three times. She is impatience and wouldn't even learn T9! I might could talk her into a number pad BB, if it comes out with the ability to multi tap.
Other users could get used to the BB interface and not have to worry about the new keyboard and then later move into one of the other keyboard designs. One of the earlier post said something about having the parts available for the QWERTY and SureType keypads. What if you could buy this Pearl with the T9 pad and then later take the phone to the authorized service center for their carrier and change the pad to the QWERTY or SureType. The board under the pad is the same, just the plastic keyboard gets changed. Just change in the setting what keyboard is installed on the Pearl! If they don't like it change it back to T9.
This is all about expanding the user base to someone who likes the numeric keyboard that they are used too, not about trying to get us "hardened" BB users to go back.
MarcSMASH Mar 31, 2010 at 10:33 am
Maybe I'm not as "die hard" as you guys but I can clearly see the point in this. Its an entry level smartphone. Sort of like the crossover vehicle in the automotive world. Its only a transition for people. Rather brilliant if you ask me.
diegonei Mar 31, 2010 at 10:47 am
I can see that too, but I rather keep the keyboard the Pearl already has. T9 is hard to type on, and not even SureType can change that...
Getting a smartphone for everyone is a good strategy.
Going Pearl's SureType to T9... stepback...
Just imagine replying to one of your team members' important email, having to tell them what to do next, on T9... BESX is there, we have to expect some of business jumping on in and buying low cost BlackBerry devices.
That's the very only reason I don't thing going T9 would be good. Besides T9 being T9 that is...
Timelessblur Mar 31, 2010 at 10:34 am
Just no on so many levels. It just does not work for a smart phone to have just a basic T9 and any type of messaging would be a pain.
dbK Mar 31, 2010 at 10:35 am
It's obviously not a Blackberry. Duh. They remove the push services, BBM, apps, security, etc. along with the QWERTY or SureType keyboard.
mychair Mar 31, 2010 at 11:04 am
Perhaps this is just an April Fools joke that popped up a day earlier than it was supposed to.
mychair Mar 31, 2010 at 11:04 am
Perhaps this is just an April Fools joke that popped up a day earlier than it was supposed to.
cigardj Mar 31, 2010 at 11:12 am
Believe it or not, there are people out there the absolutely love T9, though I'm not a fan of it.
Past Text Champions have been won by T9 users. From a business stand point, RIM is right to go after a consumer market that has a legitimate following. I would hate to use a web-browser with T9 keyboard, but I don't care from a touch screen either. It all boils down to preference, therefore I'll stick to my 9700.
maxiang Mar 31, 2010 at 11:16 am
Ick. Not for me, but someone will buy it :)
scoty024 Mar 31, 2010 at 11:28 am
While I'm sure it won't happen let's think about this. The Pearl series has always been a joke when thinking about processing power, despite that, BB was able to grant it the ability to determine what you're trying to write while having 2 letters on each key.
The new Pearl series is going to have so much more processing power in comparison to the old series. With that new found power there is no reason why they wouldn't be able to incorporate SureType into a 12 key format with 3 letters per key if they're able to make it functional. New users would be able to pick it up and hit the ground running not having to relearn where all the letters are. Existing Pearl users wouldn't have too difficult a time because the layout would be identical, just consolidated to fewer buttons. Then they could give users the option of T9 or SureType. As we all know, the more options we're given on our end, the happier we'll be with the product. Any time you move from one phone to another you have to relearn the keyboard, unless the model you're switching to has the identical keys, spacing, and feel of your previous one. Anyone using a Curve, try picking up a tour and try typing as fast as you normally would and vice versa. There's always a learning curve and will always be something different. As I said, I highly doubt they'll pot this type of keyboard on the new Pearl, but if they do it'll be a brilliant move and they will bring in a lot of customers who otherwise wouldn't make the switch.
That's what I think anyway.
elvin1983 Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 am
I just don't like the look of this, looks too much like a standard phone, like and old school Nokia or something like that... C-
NART Mar 31, 2010 at 11:36 am
Joke.
ellegee Mar 31, 2010 at 11:57 am
T9 is not for me but I do have a friend who doesn't see well and can text very quickly (without looking!) on an alphanumeric keypad. Switching over to a full qwerty would be really difficult for her. This would be a good choice for her.
stuka85 Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Suretype is the bomb.. why get back to T9 that SUCKS..
sourkevin Mar 31, 2010 at 6:46 pm
agreed......
crystalchalmers Mar 31, 2010 at 12:10 pm
IF this is just Suretype, with the exact same functionality but consolidated to fewer keys, I'd probably increase my typing speed on it even more! But T9 is garbage. Always has been, always will be. Not an option we need to ever see on a Blackberry. If T9 is just incorporated as a choice in the OS, as long as I can still choose Suretype, it wouldn't be too bad... as I'm sure there are still T9 lovers out there that might be more easily converted to Blackberry with this option available.
smnc Mar 31, 2010 at 12:45 pm
To folks who aren't used to smartphones and mobile devices, this could be a godsend. You or I are fans of a full keyboard, but not everyone is. Why trash a device that obviously not targeted at us? Don't you guys WANT RIM to be successful? I don't know about your friends, but I hear comments about what a ridiculous looking phone my Curve is all the time. Not everyone out there wants a full-sized smartphone. It's true that most of them are ignorant of what they're missing, but still, smartphones are still seen as a "geek device" by many.
I wanted my wife to get a BlackBerry, but she thought the QWERTY keyboard was too geeky. So I introduced her to the Pearl 8220 flip, which was the closes BlackBerry to a "normal" phone. About 6 months in, she had started to get really envious of my Curve 8310's keyboard. I ended up moving to the 8900 and giving her the 8310, but if it hadn't been for the Pearl's SureType, she never would have gotten on board in the first place.
Now I'm working on my best friend. She's actually more like a sister to me and I pay for her phone on my family plan. I've been wanting to get her on to a BlackBerry as well. She's not opposed to the concept of a BlackBerry, but she wants it to look like a normal phone. She's seen the Pearls and she doesn't hate them, but has told me more than once that she has no interest in learning a new keyboard. She's used to T9 and still thinks the Pearl's keyboard is too messy looking.
If this is T9 BlackBerry rumour is true, it would be perfect for her.
So just because YOU don't want a device, doesn't mean it's not perfect for someone else. Try and take a wider view here people.
Nicketmaster Mar 31, 2010 at 1:41 pm
One of the reasons I chose my first 'Berry was to get away from that horrible keyboard.
nthnc Mar 31, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Why would they do this? Not only it it ugly it up a bit, but even for someone with large fingers like myself, I have absolutely no problem typing on a friends Pearl.
storm9520 Mar 31, 2010 at 2:08 pm
This would hurt BB's image. BB are powerful phones but this would make the BB pearl line look like cheap phones.
zarzamora_hermosa Mar 31, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Having been a RIM customer for years, and in light of all the new transitions RIM has taken, I am starting to think that RIM has peaked. It is clear that we are no longer in the High Renaissance... :(
bucsfanbryan#cb Mar 31, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Why not have the pearl ship with all 3 keyboards? You could make the keyboard a removable module (like a detachable face stereo). If you are transitioning to blackberry, you can try them all out so you can't make the wrong choice.
dillion3384 Mar 31, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Would never buy one with either T9 suretype or full keyboard, but yea seems like a step backwards and like typical RIM lately.
Sidenote: I wish I had a double tap option for the suretype keyboard on my storm!!!
kat6708 Apr 1, 2010 at 2:02 am
This looks like my 9 year old's Nokia. This would be a deal breaker for anyone who's ever used a BB.
souperdave Apr 1, 2010 at 2:21 am
When I first saw the 9100 photos last year, I was on a tear trying to find out when it was gonna be on the market. That was 5 months ago. I went away from the T9 style phones for a reason. This new 9105 style is not for me. I'll stick with the sure-type. WHEN IS THE 9100 GONNA BE AVAILABLE???? ANYONE???
KristinLouise2006@yahoo.com Apr 1, 2010 at 11:20 am
this phone is ugly but T9 ROCKS!!! i miss that the most...the qwerty keyboard is just annoying. the buttons are so tiny and u have to have two hands to text in any kind of a hurry.
JPadden Jul 11, 2011 at 11:00 am
The T9 keyboard is so very helpful for the visually impaired or those with fat fingers. I have macular degeneration and can NOT use a querty keyboard. I have success with keys or with touch screen, but the querty keyboard does not allow for me to hold my magnifier to see the screen and key the buttons. Not having the T9 keyboard available leaves a large demographic group at a loss