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BlackBerry Passport passes through the FCC

By Bla1ze on 4 Aug 2014 01:55 pm EDT
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If you're waiting for the BlackBerry Passport to arrive, you can take a small bit of satisfaction in knowing the latest BlackBerry 10 device from BlackBerry is now one step closer to release. It looks as though the BlackBerry Passport has arrived and passed through the FCC. Although the internal and external photos are still under the confidentiality agreement, the label is a dead ringer for the Passport and the model number matches up as well. There's not a whole lot of info to be gleaned from the listing but it does show some of the supported bands and services for the device.

Mobile phone with GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/1900, WCDMA/HSPA FDD 2, 4, 5, LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 13, 17, 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Bluetooth, NFC, FM Radio and GPS.

That's a lot of North American bands supported including AT&T, Rogers and I believe T-Mobile. However, as we know from the release of the BlackBerry Z30 that doesn't always mean the carriers will pick the device up for sale. We'll just have to wait and see which carriers the Passport ends up on. Interesting note, the confidentiality agreement ends on Sept 12th, 2014.

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BlackBerry Passport passes through the FCC

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Welcome to the 21st century, where premium phones carry a premium price tag.

A price of $450 is a fire sale for a phone of this quality.

Posted via CB10

Well, no, actually, I don't think he is... the base model of the xiaomi flagships go for about $350.. granted they are selling at near cost price, according to themselves, because they have a different business model.

So, call us crazy, but surely $100 per device, on a device that actually sells, is better than apple or Samsung-level margins and no sales?

And why can't blackberry forget about carriers for now and sell direct to consumers in europe and USA?? With aggressive pricing, I don't see why it wouldn't work to at least push BlackBerry back towards 5-10% consumer market share in europe/usa...

Posted via CB10

$699 seems to be almost common place in 2014 for a high end device. If you're willing to pay $450 then you might just have to wait a year until it comes down near the $500 mark.

Via The BlackBerry Z10 Experience.

The problem is at that price it won't get sold.
Get ready for another z10 /q10 launch...

Posted via CB10

Nobody expects the Passport to sell in larger numbers than the Q10/Z10- it's an enterprise phone for a specific consumer. It will not have the apps that Q10 has. It's not for fun. It's to get things done, not kill time.

Posted via CB10

I think the Z10/Q10 didn't sell as well as BlackBerry had hoped (even though they are both great devices), so I certainly hope they expect the Passport to do better. Set the bar high people.

@Mohammadn
Actually the iPhone IS the iPhone killer! it is slowly imploding. The longer it is out, the more Apple has time to make bad decisions like, keeping the same design for too long (even blackberry learned that the hard way), Branching away from their winning Marketing company to create their own in house company(the phrase "critical error" comes to mind).

They created their own niche market with the whole "creativity & fun" model and now want to switch into a "we can be serious too" business model. Epic Fail!

Blackberry keeps Johnson National LLC moving

Yum, also the hotspot?

Saves me the $299 ASUS wifi ac router, lol

 BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! 

AC wifi? FM radio? There are a few confirmed things I was hoping for, always love listening to morning radio at work, and the look of surprise on everyones face when I tell them my smartphone has FM radio (Z30)

Posted via my BlackBerry Z30

Wireless charging would be a nice feature, but i would rather carry a tiny cube and a cable around than a whole base station...

My two cents

Posted via my BlackBerry Z30

Just because it may have wireless charging doesn't mean that you need to carry around the base for it. Just use the wired connection

Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!

Can do both. The difference would be wireless charging would not allow the battery to be removed, typically. I was not sure I could live with that with my Z30 from VZW. Hasn't been a problem...especially with a beefy battery. And apparently, Passport's will be even better.

No more STX-.... 12345678... nonsense!

(just overdoing it here.... :-) )

 BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! 

All verizon bands are supported based on what's in the post. Don't worry. We'll be getting it.

Posted via CB10

WCDMA and GPRS in the same device? Does this mean you can transfer between any carrier including CDMA only carriers?

Posted via CB10

The Verizon BB10 phones (Q10, Z10 and Z30) are all unlocked and work on GSM networks - AT&T, etc. I would expect that to continue if Verizon carries the Passport.

It's unfortunately the other way around. Verizon BlackBerry devices work on AT&T, etc., but unlocked or GSM phones don't work on Verizon. Verizon models have both CDMA and GSM radios, while unlocked models have only GSM.

That is what I figured but was hoping since it was a new phone then they would only have 1 phone that would work everywhere. Oh well Verizon would hopefully get it anyway.

Posted via CB10

I hope Shop BlackBerry or Shop CrackBerry sells the vzw version. I will be first in line! I don't buy on contact anyway...

Posted via CB10

How well deployed is LTE in India now? I remember reading Airtel was testing non-mobile data networks. Has LTE come to phones now?

Late update: I saw a thread in the CB forums where band 40 is indicated in one of the Passport models, as is China's band 41.

I'm going to write ATT and request they offer this device. I suggest others on this carrier do the same.

Band 13 is listed there. Which means...technically this variant can be used on Verizon, and they'll have to allow it. Should get interesting.

I'm guessing, unless they are blown away by the keyboard technologies, that no U.S. carriers are going to pick up the Passport or Classic. After the whole fiasco with the overstocked Z10s, I don't think they'll forgive BlackBerry.

Most stores don't even carry BlackBerry devices anymore in the U.S. In the forums, there have been stories of salesmen in the carrier stores who desperately try to sway customers away from BlackBerry. It's a real shame.

Posted via the super amazing BlackBerry Q10

Blackberry should open more own stores just like did in UAE... Or at least make worldwide shipping in their web store.

Web store available worldwide with worldwide shipping. Maybe some further collaboration with Amazon would work here, with Amazon providing logistics.

From my Neutrino Powered Z10

Exactly... BlackBerry will target enterprise per their plan and shopblackberry/Amazon for everyone else.

The carriers are not the solution. BlackBerry will grow via gorilla-marketing in the US or die. Spread the word.

Posted via CB10

Good news, but still can't get my hopes up. AT&T has already shattered them once before. I'd like to see Blackberry make an official announcement of which carriers and countries will be getting the device.

Somehow, some way BlackBerry has to make itself completely independent of the carriers for both firmware updates and POS. Article today about a vulnerability uncovered in the carrier firmware update connection point within the device that if accessed could enable the hacker to gain complete control over the device. It's a carrier introduced potential security problem especially for BlackBerry, if they are going to hang their hat on being the most secure. Not sure how that all works with a BES connected device. Are they still dependent on carrier upgrades?

From my Neutrino Powered Z10

I am worried about carriers or spy orgs injecting rootkits etc. via OTA carrier updates.

Would love to download from BlackBerry server directly... that also eliminates carrier bloatware...

 BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! 

If the bands information listed above is correct, this variant will be 100% AT&T compatible.

I'm hoping they don't stay exclusive with AT&T like back in the old slider days. I feel the AT&T users pain in regards to us Verizon users getting the Z30 though

Posted via CB10

Raino, Based on the bands information listed. Do you know if it would be 100% compatible with T-Mobile. I know they don't have a licensing agreement with Blackberry now, but I would just buy a factory unlocked phone. Please advise. Thanks!

Features wise, it will not get WiFi calling, nor voLTE. But as far as networks go, this variant will be as compatible as the Z10s and Q10s TMO sold--which is to say, 100% compatible with TMO's current networks.

even if it doesn't come to ATT directly you would be able to buy it unlocked thats the preferred way to go vs. contracts and giving them 299.00 prob 659.00 off contract.

Hope BlackBerry sell the passport on their website - unlocked - upon release next month. I'm afraid for my Z30... I may underutilise it when I get the passport :)

Posted by CB10 via Z30

I still think no carrier will carry it, gonna have to get it on shop BlackBerry. I talk to att reps all the time and they all say the same thing. They won't be getting any BlackBerry phones.

Posted via CB10

I was thinking of getting it too; but I thought I read an article recently saying that it will have limited apps. Is this device not able to get Blackberry World and Amazon?? or was the article wrong- I hope.

Site was wrong if it said no access to Amazon and BlackBerry World. Both will be a available.

Posted via CB10

It'll likely support all the same apps as the q10 does since the screens are both square. So basically the apps will be limited but who buys a BlackBerry for the apps anymore? This phone is going to get $hit done.

Posted via my BlackBerry Z30

Posted via CB10

this would be a good thing if BB does not price this thing like they are still tops in the game it should be competitively priced and not 700.00 you want more people to leave IOS and Android keep the price low unlocked it should not exceed 400.00 or max 500.00 USD if over that only folks that are BB lovers will buy not knew business which is what is needed to grow.

Don't lower price too much, otherwise the exclusivity factor and desirability might suffer as well...

Tough call to balance it out...

 BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! 

I love it. Wouldn't it be nice if it was an iCrap killer? Too many iSheep in the world though, bahhhhhh.

Apple, The New Evil Empire

there are two Apple and Android not sure why everyone always states iPhone killer last i checked there were iPhones, Galaxy phones, and windows phones that BB has to compete with and going for the top 2 will not prove successful aim at windows phone and climb your way back up the ladder. Some of these comments are crazy iPhone killer two diff types of devices z10 is more of a iPhone competitor than the passport. IJS...

Nope. But even if this model did, it's not a CDMA model so Sprint wouldn't allow it on their network.

I downloaded it from snap and it works seamlessly

Posted via the awesome power of BlackBerry 10 on one of my lovely devices probably my brand new Z30 or my great Q10 or my beautiful Z10

Based on that model number, looks like the passport will be the Q30 after all, with "Passport" being a class like "Bold" or "Torch".

I am getting one and I'd like to be the first to get it in Canada. I always get it. With no contract because I travel a lot. I hope..it will be $650 without a contract.

I'm still under contract so I'll have to buy it outright too, I hope for a 500$ price tag tho...

That was quick!

802.11 a/b/g/n/ac!! Sweetness along with FM radio. Solid device thus far.

 BlackBerry Z30  If it Don't Make Dollars, It don't Make Sense 

Can't wait to see reviews. Interested in how it feels/maneuvers in the hands. Are a lot of hand acrobatics involved. Also wondering about Camera.

cant wait to go in store and feel the device too, that will give me the answer if it's a go to spend $$$$ on it. That and the price tag.

Just sell them unlock from your website instead of doing the carrier bs and six months later sell it unlocked. Take some notes from every single phone manufacturer BlackBerry and get ahead if the times

My wife saw a white one in the wild. She thinks the device is ugly (in any colour), but I'll be getting one in February.

BB Proud

Ha I had the same mentality last year when I dropped my S3 for a Q10.. best decision I've made, I'm now on a Z30 and can't wait for the passport

Posted via CB10

That's a great pin to have! Hm, maybe blackberry could have some contests to win custom pin names.

Posted via CB10

Here's the article about the Passport with its weaknesses and strengths. I was keying in on the part about limited apps and screen size. Can someone tell if this guy knows what he is talking about. file:///accounts/1000/shared/downloads/SWOT-Ing The BlackBerry Passport - BlackBerry Ltd. (NASDAQ_BBRY) _ Seeking Alpha.html. Hope I copied this right.

Posted via CB10

You linked to a saved webpage on your device.
But we can bing it...

(don't ask me about Google, sorry ...)

 BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! 

Last week, I cancelled my secondary line with AT&T. My primary account is Verizon. I told the guy that the reason I was canceling was partially because AT&T didn't offer the Z30.

The second part of the reason is that I have a Consumer Cellular account for about 1/2 the cost that uses my AT&T Z10 Just fine.

Posted using CB10 on my Verizon Z10

I hope they release it in the philippines. They don't offer any BB devices here anymore

Posted via CB10

IPHONE phablet was in the headlines today... I was more interested in watching a snail move down the sidewalk... I am so excited for the #BlackBerry #Passport! I am wondering if I should get it right away to replace my amazing Q10. Long Live #BlackBerry!

Posted via CB10

LOL @ Iphone...when the Iphone 4 was out and Samsung was making phones with bigger screens Steve Jobs said there would never be an Iphone with a bigger screen because the Iphone 4's size was "optimal"...I guess it wasn't so "optimal" after all...

Remember while we all love BlackBerry they have a track record for screwing up the first phone revision every time. Got my q10 at release and the battery compartment was designed too small causing it to reboot every time I put it on a counter wrong

Wait a couple months

Posted via CB10

Wow. I had the exact same problem with my Q10. I thought it was an isolated incident because I couldn't find anyone else with the same issue. BlackBerry actually gave me a brand new Q10 11 months into my 1 year manufacturer's warranty. I was impressed.

Not approved by the NSA. My personal Q10

I already talked to my business rep. He said they would get it because of their current base. Might not be in the store but no problem ordering and returning if you don't like it. Glad I asked him because even though I am a small company with 15 or so phones/devices on contract I will still pay less than the advertised contract price. Not much less but better than nothing. I have 4 lines up for renewal so maybe I'll get the classic also.hmmmm

Posted via CB10

If you'll watch the size comparison video that was posted earlier you'll find that, despite all the criticism in the mainstream media, it's not "that" much bigger than other phones. Shorter than a Galaxy Note 3 but wider.

Nickelodeon,

Re: article about limited apps, yes and no. BlackBerry supports almost all Android apps and you can get to your Gmail from the hub but apps that requires Google Play won't work. The good news is that those same apps frequently have a presence on Amazon so they manage the in-app payment just fine. An example is Candy Crush.

You can look up my articles on SA as well. I write as Transcend Asset.

Posted via CB10

Great thank you for responding because even though I work in banking; I want this phone for everyday use; just like I use my z10 today.

AT&T, Verizon and possibly T-Mobile bands. Nothing for Sprint. AT&T uses 2, 4, 5 and 17. Verizon uses 4 and 13 and T-Mobile I think uses 17 and something else. I don't think it'll go to T-Mobile officially though...

TMO uses 4, and a limited number of places will begin using 12. But this variant is most likely not Verizon bound because it does not have CDMA bands (WCDMA is different from CDMA.)

You are correct. I wasn't paying attention to the WCDMA bands. With your correction, I think the Passport is coming to AT&T. T-Mobile is a stretch due to Tmobile not wanting to support blackberry. For Blackberry's sake, I hope there is a separate CDMA version for Verizon and Sprint. I really hope they don't turn into Nokia and create exclusivity agreements for every high end phone they make.

Well, I haven't looked at Nokia Lumia bands recently, but I know their AT&T 1020 did not have TMO's bands. But unlike that exclusive, even if this phone were released as an AT&T exclusive, it does have TMO's UMTS and LTE band 4. So it should work just fine. At the same time, this phone also has Verizon's band 13, which would force Verizon to accept it on their network should you choose to use it on there. It may not get you voice calling (unless you're in a voLTE market,) but data should work. That will be really interesting. But I would hope Verizon picks up this phone as well, which would come with proper CDMA bands.

It kind of reminds of the Lumia 930. It's exclusive to Verizon but has Band 4 which AT&T uses and has all of the GSM bands. The only thing is, LTE only works with a hack and MMS is a bit spotty. Other than that it works fine for calling and using data on HSPA+. I have a 920 and HTC One and will be be keeping my eyes open for the different flagships coming out.

I see. Verizon uses LTE band 4 as well, which is probably why it's in there. The Verizon Z30 has band 4 too, and for some people it works on AT&T and/or TMO LTE out of the box, and for some it doesn't. And we (the CB community) hasn't been able to figure out the corresponding hack. What's interesting though is that this same Z30 when taken to Canada has worked smoothly on their b4 networks--for everyone I've come across.

Fully compatible with our network too, my fellow TMO compadre. Well...minus the WiFi calling, that is. But yes to voLTE.

Why is it showing up on Bluetooth website as of July 29th 2014? STA100-1 Would be the version for AT&T , Could they be re-visiting ? Maybe launch the Passport along with the Z30 ??

Windmobile's 3G bands are 1, 4, 8. It doesn't seem to support band 1.

Posted via CrackBerry 10 (CB10) application using my BlackBerry Q10.

Wind, as in Canada? If so, they're a pure AWS carrier, which means just UMTS band 4. Certainly not 8, and 1 is actually not the band, but the coupled downlink frequency that makes up 1700/2100, or UMTS 1700.

Yeah...I wonder if that's confirmation of it not coming to TMO. It doesn't have to be, because not even the TMO LG G3 has b12.

How about wireless charging??? I really want it!!!! Pls passport support wireless charging

Posted via CB10

No Doubt at all! This is going to be amazing although I don't know if I would get it just yet. I really want to see what the Q30 would be like.

Ojani Noa

To stand out and make some noise you got to be different from the rest and there no doubt from looking at that the passport it definitely stands out and it's definitely different!

Posted via CB10

This particular variant--if released and the information holds up--is going to do you well in your world traveling. UMTS and LTE bands for North America, South America, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Australia, Hong Kong and maybe even Japan.

No I don't think so because it doesn't say anything about 1X and Verizon hasn't decommissioned that yet.

Posted from my BlackBerry Q10 on AT&T

LTE bands 13 and 4. But Verizon will have its own variant if they pick it up. This one is not going to them.

Press - The Passport is the most innovative Device on the planet. How will you combat this? Apple - We are in to process of developing our own Square design with patents to come shortly after.
Press - But BBRY already has a square phone now, and it's patent protected.
Apple - We are Apple, it's unacceptable for another company to Innovate in such a way.
Press- And how are you to combat the people leaving iPhone for Passport?
Apple - We will Patent the Square design then sue BBRY for releasing one. It worked in the past many times, we can see it working again in the near future.
Press - So in other words, you will copy the competition, just as you've been doing since 2007, then sue them?
Apple - Correct. Innovating costs too much. Let the competition Innovate then just copy them, then sue them for copying what we've copied.
Press - And how will the consumers feel about this?
Apple - We've created a horde of iSheaple, we've brainwashed them with our unique propaganda style marketing. And we will continue to work this way until the competition disappears from relevance.
Press - Good luck on your en devours Mr. Apple.

Posted on my Q5

Unfortunately that's very true. Except that the press lives everything Apple, and will follow whatever Apple says.

So true it's not even funny... and when someone with an iPhone attempts to defend the brand, it becomes that much more of an attack trying to defend BlackBerry because they've been so manipulated into believing that Apple is the more secure and somehow different. What's the difference between Apple and Blackberry...? Blackberry's stay dedicated to their people while Apple believes that by changing one thing and taking it away in another form, it will make the product better; then they will add it back on another version, take something else away and people will want "that" version. Hmmm.. all the same to me really. These Apple folks can't tell the difference between Apple and oranges.. or rather.. Blackberry ^_^

Steve
".....
- Post PC products now 66% of our revenues
- iPad outsold Mac within 6 months
..."

"Proof indeed" that Apple is evil or what? Seems he was obsessed with that number? Evil Stevil?

"...
-2011: Holy War with Google
- all the ways we will compete with them..."

Proof enough that the "Cult of Mac" & iPhone is indeed a religion or what?

"...
- Apple is in danger of hanging on to old paradigm too long (innovator's dilemma)
- Google and Microsoft are further along on the technology, but haven't quite figured it out yet
- tie all of our products together, so we further lock customers into our ecosystem
..."

That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it? :-)

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I remember a couple of months back it was mentioned that the "Passport" will not have FM Radio or HDMI port; now it will have FM Radio but still no HDMI.. I'm just curious because if that is the case, I will not sell my Z30 as I use my BB z30 as a way to transmit movies via download through to my Sony Bravia tv port.

Maybe BlackBerry is going to surprise us all with an all touch, 5inch, high end, that we can be GENUINELY enthused about.

Endless speculations, nobody is announcing an OFFICIAL price, all bullsh*t.
Mr Chen, instead of cultivating mystery, you better announce the price and take pre-orders. At last, you will get a flavor about the next BlackBerry Big Mean Washing Machine With A Square Screen...ask Eminem to perform for promoting THAT.
Tired of waiting, getting even bored and loosing my interest...a once BlackBerry follower is on the edge of showing you THE finger.

Posted via CB10

Running out of patience? Can't wait another month or so?

:-)

 BlackBerry? I premdict the future's gonna be chenomenal! 

Now that BlackBerry offers unlocked phones directly through their website, I don't have to go through carrier headaches anymore.

Posted via CB10 on my Z10

But keep in mind, it's not right away that they do this. And even then, the ones made available may not be fully compatible with all networks--like the SBB Z30 and AT&T.

Speculations and hide and seek. Tons of questions, info available, but none here says clearly the essential.
Adios,CB, you don't catch flyes with vinegar.

Posted via CB10

Yes and no. Thier CDMA bands aren't in there and you need those for voice. But their LTE bands are, including LTE band 13, which would force Verizon to accept this model on their network should someone want to use it on Verizon. Regardless, I don't think this is the Verizon-specific model.

$750? For enthusiasts only. I could be wrong, but they need to get the carriers to pick this up and set up their cell phone company discounting scheme. Verizon picked up the Z30. Could they get Verizon to pick up this one? I hope so.