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Posted by Deathcommand Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Well there goes my hopes and dreams. .

 
 
Posted by gord888 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

You should have new hopes and dreams ... such as a similar design with the classic BB keyboard (curved keys), and a trackpad and phone/menu/back buttons.

 
 
Posted by bbpandy Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

+1

That's how they get their great phones. They try a bunch of designs, play around with them to find the best parts of each design & then combine them to make a great phone ;)

 
 
Posted by Deathcommand Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Oh I found my dreams again in this post.

 
 
Posted by JasW Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

. . . and a half-screen. Sorry, though I came from using the classic BB, after using the 9800 and 9810, I'm not going back to a small half-screen device. The 9800 and 9810 were/are perfect in that they gave me a FULL touchscreen and a BB keyboard at the same time. If RIM is bagging that design for BB10 and just relying on a "classic" (half-screen) design and a full-touch/no-keyboard design, they will have lost me.

 
 
Posted by JackKennedy Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

they're probably just adding back the trackpad due to popular demand, which is good.

if that's not what they are doing, then I'm just pissed..but it's not like I would want this phone without a trackpad anyway.

 
 
Posted by JimJamSapan Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

wtf gord888, BlackBerry 10 is run on QNX (Playbook OS) and there is gestures instead of those buttons, so the whole point in BlackBerry 10 phones is so that we dont have those buttons?

 
 
Posted by JackKennedy Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

wtdf JimJamSapan, BlackBerry is known for the keyboard and trackpad, so the whole point of using a BlackBerry is so that we have a trackpad?

 
 
Posted by Darlaten Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

It's a sad day when even dreams about RIM products are dashed. Speaks volumes of what RIM has come to. Oh well, another RIM product that fails to see the light of day. And I'm sure it wont be the last.

 
 
Posted by Deathcommand Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

What are you talking about?
Obviously, I wouldn't buy this phone here. I was being semi sarcastic int he comment I posted.
I highly doubt you will be coming back here but think of it this way.

We haven't seen any live models, I'm hoping they never even made some so far.

I'm yearning for the 9900 lookalike.

 
 
Posted by siddo_d Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Nooo! I liked that design. If RIM can do better that will be good or else they just failing.
I'm apart of #TeamTorch so I loved Blackberry 'Milan'.

 
 
Posted by predacon Thursday, Jan 05, 2012 138 days ago

Ditto !!

 
 
Posted by lebking Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Noooooo :'(

 
 
Posted by FoxxBerry Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I dont like the slider myself, but i dont think an entire new look for RIM is a great idea anyway. The Milan was more of a change than I think they needed..IMO

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

For some, it's never been about the 'look' of BlackBerry devices. Take for example the Bold 9900, it's a beautiful device -- it's the OS that holds it back for some. The BlackBerry OS is seen as old, arcane and pretty much useless these days for some folks and as such, they have no interest in BB devices.

I know plenty of people who have adored my BlackBerry Bold 9900, but would never go out and buy one simply because it ran BB7. Will that change with QNX? Not likely -- the PlayBook in a way has given BB10 a bad name already even before it's released on smartphones.

 
 
Posted by siddo_d Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I think it is, because each blackberry family has it's own characteristics to suit a particular buyer e.g pearl in my opinion suits a woman as for a bold a man. of-course software is an essential element. The whole QNX thing I agree with but the playbook is a great device just wasn't marketed properly and sales like some blackberry devices.

 
 
Posted by Detective M Downs Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I disagree. The major complaints against the Playbook are native email and BBM, not hardware and/or OS (itself). So, if OS2 is delivered and, answer all those questions, I think BB10 will get some favorable reviews.

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I'm glad you disagree, lol. It was a bait comment anyway to see how many would argue the better points of BB10 with me ;)

 
 
Posted by Detective M Downs Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Yeah, I wouldn't argue rumors, with someone whom writes for the same place I've read these rumors. Or, I've seen posting on other sites where I've read other rumors...

 
 
Posted by herculesinwyoming Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

windows 7 has no native email and it isnt such a big issue

 
 
Posted by raremage Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 140 days ago

You're kidding, right? Please say you're kidding.

 
 
Posted by BGK Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

That and it was butt ugly too.

 
 
Posted by 13david77 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Good! haha I like the slider, but I'd like to see a landscape slider from Blackberry. From the looks of it, the device seems too tall to have a keyboard slide out the bottom. I have the Torch9850 and have gotten used to typing in landscape. I would love to continue this trend on a brand sparkling new BB10 device. Whatever you do, just have them ready before the iP5!

 
 
Posted by siddo_d Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

A landscape slider in my opinion would be huge lol in this day and age of slim and thin devices and totally agree with the iP5 thing if RIM wants to show off 2012 has to be the year!

 
 
Posted by 13david77 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Thin is in these days haha...if they could have a landscape slider and still manage to keep it competitively thin, I think they might have a winner. :)

 
 
Posted by azrin640 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Agree ..

 
 
Posted by Concession Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Landscape slider please.

 
 
Posted by Concession Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

and the ability to use the phone as a generic Bluetooth keyboard. That would be great for controlling the PC, tablet, PS3.

 
 
Posted by Blackberry_boffin Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

Typing onto a PB using a BB has already demo-ed. It would be daft not to extend it onto BB10 devices.
That said I am firmly a Torch user so RIM better be making the Milan form factor BETTER not shelving it entirely. I have a feeling parts of the hardware was not up to scratch.
It really is early days.

 
 
Posted by fxiddy Friday, Jan 06, 2012 137 days ago

Landscape slider is essential for new BB phones.

 
 
Posted by BerryGuy25 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Glad they've come to their senses. Let's be real, at this point in time, RIM can't afford to experiment or dance around with a form factor that isn't stellar in regards to sales. They are on a clock this year, they need to hit a homerun and not just into the stands but out of the freakin' ballpark.

Out of all the form factors they have, their iconic and best selling is the style of the 9900, 9700, etc where you have the screen and then the keyboard below, exposed at all times. The slider thing is just too bothersome. When you whip out your Blackberry, you want to start typing right away.

They need to either make a 9900-esq device with a bigger screen horizontally or just make a device like the Torch 9850 with a 3.5 - 4.0 inch screen and no keyboard.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Had the same rumor emailed into me before Christmas.

Totally not a shock - with BlackBerry 10 phones delayed until late in the year it makes sense that things will change up. Also keep in mind that RIM often evolves their designs over time scrapping code names as new devices emerge... like how magnum was scrapped and dakota emerged, etc.

What is KNOWN is that Milan as we posted the image WAS real... there's no dismissing that fact. But yeah, with devices post-poned till later in the year nothing on the device names being scrapped/rebranded/changed should be a suprise.

 
 
Posted by sk8er_tor Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Thanks for the additional feedback! Looking forward to seeing what new devices emerge.

 
 
Posted by Siiid Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

milan is a great looking device, hope whatever they come up with looks good

 
 
Posted by Czar_of_Berry Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

They need to forget all this slider nonsense and go back to what they are good at. Curve, Bold, and MAYBE one all touch device if they can really guarantee it works competitively (hardware and softare wise). Their product line needs to be trimmed up, not expanded. Do what you do and do it better than everyone else instead of chasing the latest hot thing...

 
 
Posted by BerryGuy25 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

100% Agree

 
 
Posted by hispanola Thursday, Jan 05, 2012 139 days ago

It should be two by two. Two devices: one with the keyboard and one without. Two levels: entry and professional. That would leave you with a Curve and Curve Touch (entry) and a Bold and a Torch Touch (pro).

 
 
Posted by lael99 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I'm a big fan of the slider, but only a vertical one. A horizontal one does not appear to me at all hence why I love the Torch 9800/9810. And I was seriously put out when the Torch 9850 didn't have a slider (imho it should have been called the Storm 9850). So having something like the 'Milan' which looks that that is damn sexy to me!

The biggest reason to have a slider is to keep screen estate when a keyboard is required. Having a screen keyboard just doesn't cut it for me and I'm sure so many others.

 
 
Posted by mavricxx Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I liked the look except for the vertical keyboard, hopefully they oust an new version ala MyTouch 4G Slide.

 
 
Posted by tightlybound Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I hate to say it, but I'm almost past the point of caring what these screw-ups do any more. Whatever they come up with, we won't see it for a year or more anyway, so who gives a poop?

 
 
Posted by 13david77 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I give a poop :)

 
 
Posted by neoberry99 Saturday, Jan 07, 2012 137 days ago

I give a poop

 
 
Posted by greatwiseone Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I think a four inch slider with a vertical keyboard is going to be hard to hold and difficult to balance. Landscape slider probably better....

 
 
Posted by VanCity778 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Oh god here we go again. I think it's time to sell to google. There are some real issues at RIM.

 
 
Posted by Liquid_Revolver Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

RIP RIM its over and done with...white flag and all...

htc_droid_evo here ...called it since day one!!!

 
 
Posted by Rootbrian Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

Stop the doom and gloom. Enjoy what you have and quit bashing. What if people said that about google, htc and all the rest eh? It wouldn't look good. Some might start doing that... What would you do if they did? I guess rage or ignore it.

 
 
Posted by ADozenEggs@aol.com Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

As a formerly devoted PALM guy, I can say that this looks like the Pre's big brother. Even down to the rounded-off keyboard. D@mn I really miss that phone... :(

 
 
Posted by axllebeer Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

So I know these are the devices that will hopefully save RIM, but I'm really not that concerned. I looked good, but I'm sure whatever they are working on to replace the original design will likely be better. I personally dislike landscape sliders, but lots of people love them, so RIM needs to make one. Too much thumb travel for my taste. I don't see how RIM can improve on the 9900/9930 keyboard. I've seen so many other sites review the new Bolds and even if they don't have much to say about it, they love the keyboard. It's pretty uniform that it's currently one of, if not THE best real keyboard out there now on any device. So that said, if a new slider is going to have similar width as the 99XX line, then there's your best keyboard on a slider ever so long as they can get the weight distrobution right because if it's overly top heavy when open, then all is lost. (I'm keeping my 9930 till it's death due us part). :)

Boldly sent from my 9930

 
 
Posted by El Platanero Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

well I'm actually glad. No offense to those that liked the model but I didn't see a line forming ip for that form factor. Now just want to see what the Bold's successor might look like

 
 
Posted by xXBLACKBERRYXx5 Tuesday, Jan 10, 2012 133 days ago

for sure looking forward to seeing what that looks like. :D

 
 
Posted by mss-ca Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

At this rate of coming up with new idea and then scrapping them, I feel bad for ANYONE who is dumb enough to have faith in RIM. I love their hardware, but I will NEVER buy RIM stocks for sure.

RIM should sell their assets to Google or Samsung NOW so the co-CEOs can retire with some money instead of waiting on a sinking ship.

Note to self, NEVER EVER buy RIM shares. Soo stupid to publish new idea and then turn them down.... Look at how Apple Inc deal with iPad 3... they don't release much details before they are good to go for sure.

 
 
Posted by Liquid_Revolver Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

+10

 
 
Posted by bbpandy Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

-10

RIM didn't release anything, it was a leak

 
 
Posted by BB-Bmore Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Now all Rim has to do is scap a ceo or two and the future will be looking much much brighter!

 
 
Posted by 13david77 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

You may just get your wish haha

 
 
Posted by Vandeleigh Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I love how I'm right about almost every prediction I make regarding RIM. Def standing by my statements of a qwerty BB10 at earliest mid 2013. But I'm even leaning towards the notion RIM as we currently know it won't be producing consumer devices at that point.

Still hope they sell their qwerty keyboard patent and we see a rad Android device w/it.

 
 
Posted by ianchristie1972 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

There are several factors affecting RIM's current situation and one big one is the rumour mill.

We see these proposed devices like the Milan (gorgeous looking, but did anyone else notice no trackpad) or the talk of BlackBerry 10 early in 2012. These all lead can be considered factors in the "poor" adoption of BB7 devices, after all, why buy a device with BB7 (essentially a refreshed BB6) when BB10 is out in less than a year to a year?

All that said I love the design of the proposed BB10 devices, they just need to put a cap on some of their leaks and poor promises. Wasn't it one of the CEOs who said the PlayBook will have native email, etc in 60 days (or something along those lines)? Almost a year later and its still not there.

 
 
Posted by koool1 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I put very little faith in all these rumors. BB knows they need a slider, a bold and a touch. I'm sure all are on the way.

 
 
Posted by BB_Vee Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Back to the topic at hand. I've owned my 9780 for a year now. I personally like the Torch 9800/9810 series. I was considering upgrading to the 9810, but I saw this on crackberry and decided I can wait. I believe there is a market for people who like the horizontal slider form factor. So if anyone at RIM is reading this, scrap the initial design if you must but I really hope there will be a Torch like slider running BB10 by the time I'm ready to upgrade.

 
 
Posted by walnuts1024 Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

I'm with you. I'm hoping my 9810 makes it until the Bb10 slider phone. If they are anything like this I can wait.

 
 
Posted by jkomo001 Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 77 days ago

Im all for that too! definitely what i want

 
 
Posted by lnichols Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

So I wonder if they can still deliver a BB10 phone in 2012? Waiting for unicorn chipsets, scrapping designs that are pretty far along due to "hardware concerns". Board better move fast to get the co-Clowns out of the picture. They seem to not be able to lead a company to do what other companies that started further back seem to do easily.

 
 
Posted by buckwylder Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

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Posted by Jehu Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Surprise, surprise...next will be BB10

 
 
Posted by shuabert Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Thank God. That is an ugly form factor.

 
 
Posted by melander Tuesday, Jan 03, 2012 140 days ago

Glad they strapped a bad idea

 
 
Posted by AsBloodRunsBlack Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 140 days ago

WHHHAAATTTTT??????? :( NOOOOOO RIM, I wanted that phone. That was my first choice!!!! Owell I hope they make something similar :)

 
 
Posted by all3n7 Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 140 days ago

I just hope RIM would make this QNX on their new phone devices, more apps more BBM integrations. A conference video chat. A 1.5 dual core chip. 10 megapixels with autofocus camera. And name instead of milan, create a very catchy name " GODZILLA "

 
 
Posted by ekkescorner Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 140 days ago

hopefully there will be BB 10 devices with keyboards -
vertical slider or hard like Bold 9900

I also hope that the Trackpad will come back to BB 10 devices

Trackpad and keyboard are the 2 most important things why I love BlackBerry compared with my iPhone or Galaxy nexus

fingers crossed that RIM will produce BB 10 smartphones different from others at market

 
 
Posted by Juggalo20 Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 140 days ago

Good riddence. All the BB10 phones have struck me as ugly. And no trackpad/call/end/menu/esckey is just wrong...

 
 
Posted by Beesh1 Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 140 days ago

I have a torch 9800 and I was looking forward to this!
Hopefully they do modify it for the better!

 
 
Posted by Joel_Zimmerman Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

Good riddance. It looks ugly, no  button, no call buttons and no trackpad. I use the trackpad all the time for the cursor in the browser for precise clicking. I don't like to zoom in loads just to get a small menu that I can't get at.

 
 
Posted by Xopher Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

I do like the idea of a slide-out keyboard and the larger screen. The Milan is one I would have seriously been interested in getting. It would be really interesting if they went with a landscape slider instead, since that would be more in line with the look of the Playbook (might be easier to develop for if the base format was landscape).

 
 
Posted by watbetch Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

Dell did the same design with the Venue Pro, an EXCELLENT phone which I currently own! It's possible! The slider doesn't wiggle or giggle and the phone feels like a million bux.

 
 
Posted by EvanKr Wednesday, Jan 04, 2012 139 days ago

Bring it back with quad core, a gig of RAM, a trackpad and classic keyboard and you've got a KILLER product!

 
 
Posted by montevale Thursday, Jan 05, 2012 139 days ago

Even if they loose the CEO it will not get the new devices any sooner.
OS10 is just going to suck first year like every other OS did including Apple.
It is just that Apple was first and everything was brand new. Rim doesn't have this luxury and the only thing that Rim has at the moment on the devices are the physical keyboards.
Don't wait for the fall, make another refresh of the devices in the spring, make another Bold 9900 rev1. make it thicker with a bigger battery? so it lasts longer.
Open up your own Software store and work with other developers to port the most popular programs to os 7 and to the new os 10. Buying it is the only way out of this mess.

 
 
Posted by hispanola Thursday, Jan 05, 2012 139 days ago

The difference with BB10 and other OSes is that it has already been out in a way with QNX on the Playbook. They have had a long time to work on BB10 and polish it. I have a feeling it won't be ready when released. They really should have purchased Palm when they had the chance. They probably should still purchase WEBOS and integrate it's features with BB10 with a point release next year or as BB11.

 
 
Posted by predacon Thursday, Jan 05, 2012 138 days ago

Im actually upset abt this. I really wanted that phone. I love my Torch and i wanted to keep the same form factor

 
 
Posted by jkomo001 Tuesday, Mar 06, 2012 77 days ago

This phone with a trackpad and other 4 buttons is my dream phone with the new OS and all the other great features of bb10! the bb10 slider will definitely be the one i am going to get!