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Posted by SteveO86 Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Really nice article, The BES 5.0 was great can't wait for it's release.

 
 
Posted by savantadmin Thursday, Feb 19, 2009 1087 days ago

I checked up on the various serviced office available and their prices are pretty competitive. Any recommendations?

 
 
Posted by kundo Sunday, Feb 22, 2009 1085 days ago

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Its “BES in a Box” appliance that will allow any organization to implement BES in under 30 minutes. They also offer a version that comply with DISA requirements for the DoD

What's you opinion?
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Posted by dead ipod Saturday, Apr 18, 2009 1030 days ago

Yes, BES 5.0 is all I've been thinking about. The anticipation is killing me.

 
 
Posted by eraffone Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Why does it take so long for a message to be marked as read on my BlackBerry after I read it on my MS Exchange 2003 Outlook mailbox? We are running BES 4.1.

Great post very informative.

Thanks
Erock

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Tasks like syncing read marks are handled at a lower priority by the BES. Email delivery is the top priority for the BES.

If your BES is very busy, this could be the reason why it takes so long.

 
 
Posted by eraffone Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Thanks for responding Craig. We have a fairly small company only four users on the BES right now and its taking about two minuets for it to sync the read items. Does that sound about right?

Thanks again.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

2 Minutes to sync read messages is fast :-)
When you said "a long time" I was sure you meant longer than a few minutes.
You are seeing what is expected.

 
 
Posted by eraffone Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

My co-workers Iphone 3G linked to the same Exchange server seems to do this instantly.

 
 
Posted by Rh1noo Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

The BES is designed to check the status of all emails on the device every 15 minutes. That means if you have 10 users with a 1000 messages on there device then 10,000 messages are checked every 15 minutes. This puts a load on the exchange server.

If you were able to reduce the time 15 minute window it would increase the load on the exchange server. This would not be a good idea in a large BES environment.

If you would like to sync straight away you can do a 'reconcile now' from the full menu while in email.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

This is correct however it is still only 2 minutes.
2 Minutes is still "fast" in my book :-)

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Great article Craig!

I just noticed that RIM shows their Canadian roots here with the spelling of "colour" on the Flag Settings screen. I wonder if they'll change that up to "color" for final release or if it will vary based on distribution. These are the things I think about...haha :)

 
 
Posted by fcortese Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Great article, Craig. RIM or someone else needs to hire you now. Someone with your expertise and experience would be invaluable to any company.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Thanks :-)

It is not for lack of trying to get into RIM. RIM is just not showing any interest.

 
 
Posted by Curve63049 Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Hi Craig:

I have a question. How do BIS and BES interact, if at all? Here's the reason for my question.

I have a personally owned BB (Curve 8330) that was added to my employer's BES (a government agency). Other than forcing a "device lock" - there appear to be no IT policies/restrictions. I can use all of the features on my Sprint account (Sprint TV, navigation, personal email, pin to pin, etc.).

Recently, I upgrade the OS on my Curve to 4.5. My personal BIS email (two gmail accounts) was not bothered by the upgrade (meaning: I continued to get personal emails after the upgrade).

But, my work/BES email stopped *until* I had my device re-activated on the BES.

From this, I infer that my personal email doesn't pass through the BES. Is that more or less correct?

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Yes you are correct.

Your BlackBerry can be on BIS and BES at the same time. The path that your personal email takes to get from your in box to your BlackBerry is via BIS, but the data path could be any number of ways including via the BES MDS.

In your case, it sounds like your personal email was arriving from BIS via the carrier network and not your BES.
When you activated against your BES, your BES's IT policy did not disable your BIS functionality.

 
 
Posted by junkcool Wednesday, Feb 18, 2009 1089 days ago

Is there a way to check if one's personal emails and personal web browsing are being routed thru' the corporate BES?

Also, any recommended reading on Service Books mean?

 
 
Posted by ghbishop Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Very informative article. Getting information like this out to users makes Crackberry a valuable resource to its members.

As a current BES user I would like to take advantage all its capabilities.

Is there on line documentation concerning these two capabilities of the current BES product?

1) "Move a message to an existing folder within your corporate inbox from your BlackBerry."

2) "Setup meetings from your BlackBerry, invite attendees, and see their free/busy status."

Looking forward to the next article in the series.

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Thanks.

I would check out the BlackBerry Owner's Lounge:
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/ownerslounge/

Or post a question in the CrackBerry.com Forums:
http://forums.crackberry.com/

Someone will be happy to help out.

 
 
Posted by RCNA Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Great Read, Thanks!

I might have missed this somewhere but when is it going to be released?

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Available in Q2 2009. I would guess around the time of WES in May 2009.

 
 
Posted by diaox Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

I've been on BES for nearly a year now, and didn't even realize some of the features it offers.

Always nice to learn something new.

Keep 'em coming, Craig!

 
 
Posted by cexshun Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Any word on improved groupwise support?

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

When RIM releases a new version of BES, they keep the feature set the same between Exchange, Domino, and GroupWise.

So without knowing for sure, it stands to reason that BES 5.0 for GroupWise will support these same features.

 
 
Posted by mgriffin Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1011 days ago

Now that BES 5.0 is out will there be 5.0 upgrade for Groupwise??

 
 
Posted by jappling Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

I am trying to setup BES on our Exchange Server but I have not done something correct is there a walk through that I can follow?

Jamie

 
 
Posted by Rh1noo Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Post the question in the BES administrator forum and we will help from there.

Make sure you include details of the problem

 
 
Posted by nothin2seehere Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Craig,

Thanks for the article. I had no idea MVS for Blackberry even existed. I do now! We're just at the initial stages of deploying a Cisco CCM VoIP solution at my company, can it integrate at all with that?

What I'm most looking forward to in BES 5.0 is improved wireless reconcile. I can sometimes delete a lot of email either server or handheld side which never gets reconciled the other way. It's annoying to be on the train deleting all the weekend crap on a Monday morning and then, loading up Outlook in the office an hour or so later, it's still sitting in my Inbox! Frustrating to say the least.

Any idea if there's going to be a beta for BES 5.0 I can participate in?

 
 
Posted by Craig Johnston Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

That type of reconciliation works 100% today. No need to wait for BES 5.0.

If it is not working for you then you should check to see that it is actually set on your handheld. From Messages, go to Options, Email Reconciliation and make sure that DELETE ON is set to Desktop and Handheld. If it is not, then deletes will not synchronize both ways.

If it is set correctly, ask you BES admin to look into it because there could be something wrong with your BES account.

MVS should work with your Cisco VoIP system but you can make sure by pinging the RIM MVS team.

 
 
Posted by nothin2seehere Tuesday, Feb 17, 2009 1090 days ago

Hi Craig

For the most part the wireless reconciliation works nicely. It just seems to go a bit, err, weird (technical term!), if I'm deleting quite a large number of messages at once, or out of coverage when I do it. But to clarify, I am the BES admin for my company (around 250 handhelds, running 4.1.6).

Cheers :)

 
 
Posted by kenjancef Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1091 days ago

Any word on Public Folder sync?????

 
 
Posted by jamesvdm Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1090 days ago

The lack of public folder sync has been annoying since we moved everything to wireless. Sure there are workarounds but a wireless public folder sync is ideal.

 
 
Posted by mike240se Monday, Feb 16, 2009 1090 days ago

Ok the guy from rim said this quite clearly.

BES 5.0 is being tested at 10 companies.

he later said:

BES 5.0 requires OS 5.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this means os 5.0 is out, some where, to be found!
right?

 
 
Posted by nothin2seehere Tuesday, Feb 17, 2009 1090 days ago

There would be a massive hole in RIM.s foot if they *required* OS 5.0 on every handheld. 4.7 is the latest, and there are many devices that may never see OS 5.0 (I think the 83xx series will get 5.0, but I'm not sure).

 
 
Posted by dougxd Tuesday, Feb 17, 2009 1089 days ago

Jeezlouise, you'd think RIM would snap Craig up in a heartbeat. Especially since they are looking to fill 3000 more positions at the company -- after a previous staff up of 4000 jobs.

And not one of those fits Craig, eh?????? Lemme be the first to throw up the bull&^it flag on that!

 
 
Posted by SaraVN Saturday, Feb 21, 2009 1086 days ago

Thanks Craig.
This is a great and very well written article. I plan on passing it onto the next executive that asks why we use BlackBerries instead of iPhones. It explains that features and securities with BES better than I have ever been able to.

In my book, any document that can be passed directly to management without being "translated" has done it's job. Try asking most of us IT people to do it, and we can't. Kudos!

SaraVN

 
 
Posted by Laly Smith Monday, Feb 23, 2009 1084 days ago

SteelCloud’s “BES in a Box” appliance is the most cost effective way to implement a BlackBerry® Enterprise Server environment.

Any comment?

http://www.steelcloud.com/sw_mobile/default.asp

 
 
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Posted by northstahr Tuesday, Apr 07, 2009 1041 days ago

Excellent article. Explained everything very well.

 
 
Posted by wjwelthagen Friday, Oct 08, 2010 492 days ago

Hi,

How does a companies on premise BES server connect to the NOC. Is it via the companies internet service provider

 
 
Posted by wjwelthagen Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 486 days ago

"When the BES starts up, it actually logs into the RIM NOC using its unique SRP ID or address." What connection does the BES server utilise to connect to the NOC, is it a internet connection?