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FreddyO76 Jul 15, 2009 at 9:09 am
Twice this week! Anyway what is the big difference in 5.0 to 4.7? Just give me the 5.0 OS.
maddmaxx308 Jul 15, 2009 at 9:16 am
So, is this actually WORTH the upgrade to 5.0 if we are still running say, 4.6 on the device?
Is it valid for NON verison customers?
hobbs22 Jul 15, 2009 at 9:18 am
Unless 5.0 desktop manager is required to install 5.0 OS, i don't care for it. Give us 5.0 0S!!!
wnm Jul 15, 2009 at 9:21 am
You need to enter a Verizon Wireless phone number to get the download.
joski Jul 15, 2009 at 9:22 am
You can use any number. Even the one in the screenshot!
jivfly Jul 15, 2009 at 9:24 am
Is this software only for PCs? Or Mac too?
cjones11481 Jul 15, 2009 at 11:20 am
probably just PC... us mac users get no love! ha!
big dawg 23 Jul 15, 2009 at 9:27 am
I will give a try. Downloading now for my Storm.
jeffeldredge Jul 15, 2009 at 9:30 am
Is this only for the tour and storm or is this for the blackbery curve 8330 also?
PaloAltoWorldView Jul 15, 2009 at 9:35 am
Every new DM software is/remains backwards compatible with every single Blackberry handheld ever made, going back to 1999.
bordapapa Jul 15, 2009 at 9:31 am
Well, you can just enter random numbers, so you can download the DM.
And the main difference is, that I could spot so far, is that the new DM now supports other Bluetooth stacks than the default windows one (that almost no one uses... :P), so now we can sync and install thru BT.
PaloAltoWorldView Jul 15, 2009 at 9:34 am
This is lovely, of course, but what does it do that 4.7.0.37 (the most recent previous version) doesn't do? I mean for a BIS user in particular, not a BES user. Can someone please post the release notes?
imiller Jul 15, 2009 at 10:17 am
I want the 5.0 os where is it??
DiabeticDoc2B Jul 15, 2009 at 10:20 am
Does this version still come with Roxio Media manager?
tom108 Jul 15, 2009 at 1:15 pm
yes
chochopr Jul 15, 2009 at 3:14 pm
It gives you the option to install either Roxio Media Manager and BlackBerry Media Sync or just which ever one you want just check or uncheck the box you want or don't want to install. I didn't install Roxio Media Manager that came with the new BDM cause already have the latest roxio version install on my pc and it supports all mobile devices including Blackberrys & iPhones. So happy downloading, oh! I just use my brother's number cause he's with verizon wireless lol
carrickfergus Jul 15, 2009 at 1:41 pm
In the new DM 5.0, my App Loader does not show the full contents of my Tour. It only shows 3rd party apps and preloaded games, but no languages, help file, etc. as in previous versions of DM. Is this normal, and if so, how can you remove unwanted modules like the above?
chochopr Jul 15, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Cause you also need to install the BlackBerry OS of your phone in the computer as well see all that and change whatever you want.
carrickfergus Jul 15, 2009 at 3:21 pm
OK. Thanks, I'll give that a try. Did I need to uninstall DM 4.7 first?
carrickfergus Jul 15, 2009 at 4:19 pm
No. Didn't work. I downloaded the OS from Verizon and reinstalled DM 5.0. I still only see 3rd party apps in App Loader. Any particular order in the procedure? Or should I download from RIM directly?
SterlingVT Jul 15, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I'm having the same problem. Have you figured it out yet?
carrickfergus Jul 16, 2009 at 10:08 am
Yeah, I went back to 4.7, which is the latest on the BB site. I think the 5.0 is a hosed-up Verizon version. When 5.0 is official, BB will release an update through 4.7.0.37.
agroni Jul 15, 2009 at 2:50 pm
strange
i have the ver. 4.7.0.37 and when i want to install the ver. 5 which i have downloaded from the above link it says that there is already a newer version installed!
i have closed the DM to avoid any conflicts while installing but i get still the same message...
is it really a 5.0. version?
michaelalanjones#CB Jul 15, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Hey, don't just install this for fun, like I did! It can mess you up!
Here is what happened. I downloaded this setup and ran it - it began to run and then paused, and said: "BlackBerry Redirector is running. Stop the Redirector, and re-run this setup." So I did.
Well, guess what? It uninstalled Redirector, which I use everyday, and I cannot get it back. I tried uninstalling this, then installing DM 5.0, which I had on there before - still no Redirector. I uninstalled DM 5.0, and installed DM 4.7, still no Redirector.
This has cost me a few hours of wasted time, and I still don't have Redirector on my PC.
I can't find a Redirector install download link anywhere on the web.
he11fire Jul 15, 2009 at 5:39 pm
FYI, my last dumb-phone was an LG Voyager and when I installed the VCast Music Manager software to sync music, it uninstalled LimeWire without asking or giving any indication that it was doing it. I installed the program and boom, it was gone. It was easy enough to go to their site and redownload it, but I did think it was a little intrusive of VZW to remove a program that, as far as they know, could have been used for completely legal purposes.
So, it doesn't surprise me that installing something from their website removed another program of yours. They're probably just trying to get the extra $15/month out of you for the Blackberry Business plan.
el_ote Jul 15, 2009 at 3:40 pm
What's Redirector? Is it one of those you know it if you use it or was it a standard function of DM?
Dopie Jul 15, 2009 at 3:57 pm
umm so does this work for mac or no?
this question has been brought up but noone answered
so does it work?
if so imma download but if not please chime in
thanks
dlgus Jul 15, 2009 at 4:06 pm
If I don't have a verizon number?
ETA: Never mind, I guess this is why you should read before you post.
michaelalanjones#CB Jul 15, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Redirector is the BlackBerry email redirector, used by people who are not on a BES, to get their Outlook email redirected to their BlackBerry.
Principal Skinner Jul 15, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I assume this works with all BB models
nasmith7 Jul 15, 2009 at 5:07 pm
what's the big deal for a Storm owner? changes?
Shay D. Life Jul 15, 2009 at 7:12 pm
I can actually say for a fact that this DM has caused changes to my memory. Before I updated I was getting around 34mb, however after the update I'm holding tough around 45mb. Could just be me, but I don't think so. Also, I'm running .151.
Sopranosv Jul 15, 2009 at 7:15 pm
I just entered 505-123-4567...it worked...I mean, at least it let me download it...
gitano1 Jul 15, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I installed the software and then ran it. All seemed to go well until I went to backup since I hadn't done a back up for a month. It started the process and then about 3/4 the way through I got a little window that said Database Error. There was no further information, just an OK box. I clicked the box and was returned to the main screen. Several attempts later I called Verizon.
Long story short, this software is for the Tour. It is very likely not going to work with your other models. I reinstalled the original software that came with the phone and remembered a bit late: If it aint broke, don't fix it.
gitano1 Jul 15, 2009 at 8:53 pm
It is not compatible with a Mac. This is Windows software. There has been talk for some time of a Mac version of Blackberry software, but the expected date of its arrival passed a couple of months ago and nothing showed up. I suspect it was just a rumor. With the iPhone catering to the Mac it is unlikely that RIM will waste their resources creating Mac compatible software.
SterlingVT Jul 15, 2009 at 9:45 pm
App loader will only display 3rd party apps. Anyone know how to fix this.
carrickfergus Jul 16, 2009 at 10:05 am
I went back to 4.7, which is the latest on the BB site. I think the 5.0 version is a hosed-up Verizon version.
Trader Z Jul 15, 2009 at 10:08 pm
RIM continues to ignore us. Time to go back to iPhone.
I will give it until the next iteration of iPhone. If no Mac support by then, Berry goes in the trash.
I love my Bold, and it will suck for work email. but I'm a man of principle and its not hard to code desktop manager in OS X.
I could have programmed it by now.
krymz Jul 15, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Time to go back to PC
XXXdc5#CB Jul 15, 2009 at 10:30 pm
swweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Sopranosv Jul 15, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Worked just fine...still looking for the enhancements...
itsdollar Jul 15, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Glad I read the posts before I used 5.0 I'm sticking with 4.5 for now
erasure25 Jul 16, 2009 at 1:38 am
I upgraded DM from 4.7 to 5.0 and everything worked fine. I did close out of DM prior to running the upgrade.
shockaman Jul 16, 2009 at 3:13 am
I downloaded the software but I am not seeing anything different? Does anyone see anything new?
rotem Jul 16, 2009 at 4:26 am
Is this software only for PCs?
Crunch Jul 16, 2009 at 8:00 am
Jesus people. It's nothing to get excited about. I had the thing 2 months ago, and went back to 4.6. 4.7 sucks, too, for some reason, even for OS 4.7.x.x devices.
camarojones Jul 16, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I agree...4.7 wouldn't show my blackberry OS, even when it was stock. Went to 4.6 and it not only saw my stock OS, but any/all Hyrbids I've tried.
4.6 ROCKS!
Euranus Jul 16, 2009 at 9:10 am
by the looks of it, I can't tell a difference from 4.7, but syncing with outlook is now 3x as fast.
PaloAltoWorldView Jul 16, 2009 at 1:11 pm
You are correct, directionally speaking. My tests with several handhelds thus far suggest that sync is now close to 10x as fast as 4.7. In other words, we're finally back to the speed of the pre-4.2 DM. But do you find that DM5.0 now crashes when it syncs the calendar?
michaelalanjones#CB Jul 16, 2009 at 11:00 am
Sorry, I was wrong. See, when it installed, it did not remember that I had chosen the BES/Redirector setting, on the install before. It did a regular install, and I just did not catch it.
I went back to DM 4.6, to realize that the setting is in one place only, and if you choose wrong, you don't get a Redirector installed. I thought it always installed the Redirector, but it only does that if you choose BES/Redirector.
tucsonfg Jul 16, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Just a quick question, does "desktop" software do anything for your phone? If so, what?
Jleeblanch Jul 19, 2009 at 2:38 am
Earlier today a BlackBerry Automatic Update popped up and it was for Desktop Manager 5.0. I thought sweet and did the update. Well after it was installed i checked to see what version it was and sure enough 5.0.0.11
blkberrydiamond Jul 20, 2009 at 3:02 pm
This is really fast. I just knew my backup and installs were going to take an hour or so.