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BlackBerry Bold 9780 - First live image!

by Bla1ze on 23 Jul 2010 11:12 PM
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Well, that didn't take long at all. We noted the UAProf for the BlackBerry 9780 had been found now, Salomondrin has posted up the first live image of the device. BlackBerry 6 in full effect, taking on the form of the BlackBerry Bold 9700 except with a darker bezel that BlackBerry Bold 9780 is looking might fine to me. For me, the Bold 9700 is the perfect device so transitioning to the 9780 is fine by me.

All the other specs we noted are accurate now, we can add with certainty that 512MB of RAM is on board for this release. The 5MP camera has yet to be documented as fact but, it seems to be a BlackBerry 6 standard judging from all the recent devices. What do you all think, will you buying into a BlackBerry Bold 9780 or passing? I'll be the brave one and say it, anyone upset with RIM on account of this device? I mean, it's a Bold 9700 with some slight changes that's all. Seeing this device just again raises the question whether or not the Bold 9700 will even get BlackBerry 6?

Source: Salomondrin

Filed Under: News & Rumors, Devices; Tags: BlackBerry 6, BlackBerry 9780, BlackBerry Bold 9780
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Posted by Cowchip Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

Let me guess....another ATT device?

>shakes head in disgust<

 
 
Posted by gogrizzgo Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

seems all the new bb's are going to att, whats up with vzw and sprint?

 
 
Posted by dLo GSR Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

It's called the 9650 buddy.

 
 
Posted by gerard187 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

GSM

 
 
Posted by cp3for3 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

VZ reps told me Storm 3 by January. My VZ rep also mentioned that "other" device from Apple coming by January. You know, that "other" touch screen. Not so sure about that Apple news though. Who knows. Definitely can see Storm 3 coming.

 
 
Posted by Madness87 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

Even in Canada, Bell and Telus have a new 3G network and carry GSM devices and simcards and they used to be primarily CDMA.

Though one thing I don't get, where the **** is the Bold 9000 refresh? It's what made the Bold series and in my eyes, a Bold 9000 with a 5 MP camera, trackpad, wifi-N, and since it's bigger maybe a 1750 MaH battery, an updated resolution and maybe just make it slimmer and you've got the one Blackberry to rule them all.

 
 
Posted by mathprof08 Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 549 days ago

I couldn't agree more!

 
 
Posted by MCC1987 Friday, Aug 20, 2010 541 days ago

I Have had a few Blackberry's The Bold 9000 (black, and later purchased a white one) Tour 9630, Bold 9700, Bold 9650, Had the Storm 2 for a couple weeks, and Now im using the Torch 9800, But I still find myself wanting the White Bold 9000. I love the size of the phone, I love the look of the phone, and id totally go back to it, if they made the updates you mentioned.

 
 
Posted by jetman1287 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

Remember Blaze, it's easier for for you to switch phones, but most of us are locked in on two year contracts. People were upset with the Storm2 not getting 6? They'll be more upset if the 9700 doesn't.

ANOTHER refresh device? Sigh. They clearly are not learning or listening.

 
 
Posted by The_Shawn Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

You'd rather have a crappier OS than a better device? So they should drop some features from OS 6 so that it will work on existing devices. No thanks, I'd rather have an awesome OS on a wicked new device that can handle it properly.

It seems people have been living life with their eyes closed, technology has always been constantly changing, whenever you buy a piece of technology, it out of date. Where would companies be if they just made one device and just supported it forever and never developed anything new? We'd still have a briefcase sized thing with a cord and big antenna. You probably wouldn't want one if that was the case, neither would I, and cell phone wouldn't be so popular today. This is nothing new, these companies make money by selling products, by making things better in the next generation, and selling that. Something newer, faster, better is always on the way. ALWAYS!

I bought a VCR, then they came out with DVD, I bought a DVD player, they came out with Blu-ray, and I don't think that will be the last one either. It's the nature of the beast. When you purchased that device, RIM never said they were going to give you OS 6 on it, you got what you paid for, device X with OS X on it. When they started working on OS 6 were they supposed to halt the sales of all devices that wouldn't support OS 6?

 
 
Posted by redheadincognito Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

While I do understand your points, they are perfectly valid, and they do stand true...mostly. I would like to add one piece to the equation. I haven't read many (if any) comments on this post regarding peoples 9000's, 8900's, etc. not being able to run OS6. The true and only reason anyone's panties are bunched (including mine...don't ask, it's a comfort thing.) is that for some reason (it would appear cash grab in this case) RIM decided to give these devices less memory than they would have known they needed. Devices such as the 9700, 9550, and possibly even the 8500's to a lesser extent SHOULD and COULD have been given the appropriate amount of memory. (I will give up the argument for the 8500's in a heartbeat mind you.) The added point I'd like to make is that there are 2 (3 if you want to count the tour in on this) "flagship" devices that were released not long enough ago (even in technology years) that are now receiving simple "refreshes" in order to be viable for use by a blackberry enthusiast. With no word at all from RIM as to what the current owners of their "flagship" devices are to expect in the near future. We didn't buy these phones "as is" we bought them on a contract (for the most part) and expect these devices to stay relevant for at least half of our contract time. Including using the new and great apps that are sure to come for OS6. All that needed to be done to appease the masses was add that little bit more memory (which was easily, cheaply, and readily available at the time of release.) to these "fresh new" devices at the time of release, not have to release a new "fresh new" device that is in EVERY other aspect the same device. This is the point that some people seem to be able to look past easily, not me, and I'm a Blackberry lovin' Canadian. I'd really like to hear Kevin's opinion on this off the record.

 
 
Posted by mystic205 Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 567 days ago

..simply because there is a new os coming out.. it is an extremely simplistic argument to require items to be future proof based upon what may should or could come out in the future.
From a manufacturer perspective, phones are consummable throwaway items with a life expectancy of 2yrs max.. so adding cost and design overkill to a product that may not even be around when the new os is released does not make a lot of sense.

 
 
Posted by PsychoGeek Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

Seriously if they won't support 9000 I understand but not to support 9700 is really a bad idea. I know the device won't support the new OS so why RIM didn't think forward and make a device that can support their future OS. Current user will be happy and at the same time they will also gain new customer. It really shows the company really don't think forward and rely with their fanboy status. But once you only playing catchup and stop being revolutionary, fanboy will started to get tired of your game. Remember RIM, PALM used to have fanboy and I'm one of them. Look at them where are they now :(

 
 
Posted by deRusett Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

How are they not listening?

People want more Memory, they are adding it, they want a better camera again adding it, they want a better browser, adding it! they are listening,

you can't expect a year old device to stay on the cutting edge this is more than an incremental OS upgrade, so they are not supporting the devices that came out before it, but those that loved the form factors are getting the option to buy a refresh to take advantage of the form factor they like and the NEW OS, it's only money, if you want to play the smartphone game, and be on the leading edge, you don't sign contracts, and you put aside 100-150 bucks a month for your next smartphone.

 
 
Posted by Cowchip Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

...even after adding all those so-called features and upgrades.

Ridiculous business decisions such as this put RIM just that much closer to their market share falling off the face of the earth. Riding their name and fanboy loyalty will only last so long before they need to actually put forth some effort into producing a device that is up to date.

 
 
Posted by Talne Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 567 days ago

I have read claims like this regarding RIM since I was in 3 corner pants, guess what, it hasnt happened yet. you people continue to spew this gloom and doom stuff for RIM as they continue to thrive, the overwhelming majority of smart phone users dont even know what an operating system is or have any interest in Applications other than the ones they need. a tiny percentage of smartphone users read these forums and understand things such as Memory, App's, Operating systems and the real diference between phones, there is a whole world of relitivly uninformed cell phone/smart phone users out there that buy a phone brand because their aunt Jenny has one and for no other reason, there are a lot of people that dont come to CrackBerry that are keeping RIM afloat and disprove these neverending claims that RIM will fail if they dont do this or that.

 
 
Posted by SC0TT Tuesday, Jul 27, 2010 565 days ago

+1

 
 
Posted by datta72 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

chances are that it'll go to T-Mobile since att is getting the 9800........Majority of the world uses GSM so it only makes sense for all major releases to come out to those 2 carriers 1st

 
 
Posted by serpico Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

Another boring looking device. Who cares. Looks just like any other BB.

 
 
Posted by d00d1e Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 567 days ago

it's not like everyone thinks every phone n bb history should get os6. most wouldn't even expect a phone that is a yr old to get it. when new tech comes out of course u shouldn't expect to get it on an older device and a yr is fairly old n the phone world.

the problem is the the 9700 came out a little over half a yr ago and there is no reason it shouldn't have had at least 512mb. that tech is not new and i thought i was supporting a company with more foresight than that. i expect more out of RIM. whether it was poor planning on RIMs part or just a way to make more money down the road (and my $ is on poor foresight)i expect more.

ppl keep saying it looks the same. well, i luv the design of the 9700. i don't want it changed. what i would've wanted is the amount of on board memory it should have had at the time of it's release. that is the problem. this isn't a bran new phone that just looks too much like the 9700. It is what the 9700 should have been. RIM is basically admitting that by calling it the 9800.

yeah, RIM said there was a reason they demoed the new os on the 9700 and maybe it'll get some variation of it. but it seems fairly obvious to me. that they found out after the fact that 256 is just not enough to run the new os. and that IS the problem. i really think they should have known. it's not new tech. this should not have been a surprise to RIM and i am disappointed n them

 
 
Posted by farico Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

"Seeing this device just again raises the question whether or not the Bold 9700 will even get BlackBerry 6?"

That was my 1st impression of the new Bold 9780.. :S

I've been already annoyed with the Bold 9650 cause I own a BB tour...and then this... I wanted to get a Bold 9700, what should i do now?

hehe

 
 
Posted by BerryGuy25 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

First thing to do is always do your research. The fact that you're posting on here shows that you're at least above the average masses, so do your research.

Two, rule of thumb right now is any device that does NOT have 512 MBs of RAM is not going to be able to run BB OS 6. From the videos of it in action, it takes up more than half of that RAM just to run the basic OS, not including opening apps.

Three, be patient. Don't just pull the trigger on something right now. There's a change over happening for RIM right now and you don't want to be stuck with a device that doesn't get the upgrade.

 
 
Posted by deRusett Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

I have a tour as well, I covet the other phones, but really the 9700 has nothing to offer me over my tour except the trackpad,

I really would hold off until the launch of OS6 and buy a device that has been proven to support it, that will give you your longest life on your next purchase.

 
 
Posted by beri Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

Actually this looks like Tmo and AT&T i think its the Bold 9700 Refresh

 
 
Posted by LakerStar25 Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

Not sure if its just the angle of the picture but it doesn't look as wide as the 9700

 
 
Posted by Bla1ze Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

It's exactly the same.

 
 
Posted by cardu3851 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

Wouldn't it be funny if this was just a 9700 running an OS6-style theme??

 
 
Posted by enz Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

I'm with you all the way, its just an updated 9700, I cant see BB6 working on a 9700 but then again I bet it's already been tried. I'm hanging out for the 9800. But then again will this see an update for 2011?

 
 
Posted by rizzzzoooo Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

You can't bet your whole bank account it will see a "refresh" in 2011. We all know by the way things work at RIM that we will need more ram than is currently available in any device out right now to run BB7.

 
 
Posted by Rockdog97 Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

Looks nice, but I too am waiting on the 9800

 
 
Posted by mrlee7 Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

i hate to say it, but with photos of a refresh storm 2 and bold 2 (9700).. I'd say that the storm 2 and bold 9700 getting OS6 is pretty much zip..

 
 
Posted by WickedRabbit Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

If you got a Bold 9650 from Verizon then technically (judging by rumors) you should be fine for 0S6. Most rumors seem to suggest 512mb ram, which the Bold 9650's for Verizon and Sprint have. THe only difference here is the 5MP camera, other than that, exactly the same product.

So, looks like Verizon/Sprint's devices are likely the only current devices on the market that will support OS6 and Tmobile and ATT will be getting a minor product refresh.

I wonder if BlackBerry will announce these as "new" devices or just quietly start discontinuing current models and replace them with the updated ones.

 
 
Posted by willm Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

RIM can't come out with banners and flags touting "great new devices" when they are really just RAMed up versions of the same ol' 'Berries. I hope it does go as quite replacements in late summer and by Black Friday we see SOMETHING ACTUALLY NEW AND INNOVATIVE, lest I fear for RIM's future...

 
 
Posted by Barredbard Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

There was never any doubt that the 9650 is supposed to get OS 6. That was why production was delayed; to enhance the memory in order to make it adaptable to OS 6.

 
 
Posted by Hambly Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

"That was why production was delayed; to enhance the memory in order to make it adaptable to OS 6."

Can you provide a link to your claim? Would like to look into this further. Thanks.

 
 
Posted by mystic205 Sunday, Jul 25, 2010 567 days ago

tour 9650 product was actually in verizon stores awaiting release in january and went back to the manufacturer for a redesign... the only change was memory and a name change.

 
 
Posted by beri Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

Ive been waiting to see a video or even an image of BB6 running on a Non Touchscreen device so im happy to see this surface (even though im running the 9650) but wonderful sign never the less! Now just a video to confirm and ill be good :)

 
 
Posted by Blacklatino Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

Passing and waiting for the Slider.

 
 
Posted by trtgt99 Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

It looks no different than the 9700. I'm not upgrading to it. Not worth the money. I'll stay with the 9700 for another year until I can leave AT&T for Verizon.

 
 
Posted by mike448 Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

Cool device but I will stick with my 9700. I use my device for mostly messaging. New webkit and multi media o.s isn't enough for me to upgrade. If rimm allows me to install apps on external memory then I would but I doubt this will happen.

 
 
Posted by Shad0w26 Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

If the Bold 9700 doesn't get FULL OS 6.. I'm out.

Hello Android or iPhone 4.

 
 
Posted by blazed12 Friday, Jul 23, 2010 569 days ago

No one cares if you leave. See ya.

 
 
Posted by Shad0w26 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

Did I ask you?

 
 
Posted by blazed12 Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

But I feel like saying it. Is a that problem?

 
 
Posted by chirmer Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

No one cares that you don't care that he's leaving. :)

 
 
Posted by infinus Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago


I don't think 9700 won't run OS6,
RIM just want to milk their own loyal people.

 
 
Posted by JohnMidnight Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 568 days ago

So...........you want a OS 6 Starter Edition?

 
 
Posted by dLo GSR Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

I agree. No OS6, then I'm getting a captivate or the euro galaxy S. After 4 years I'm tired of the same OS (4 and 5 really aren't that different).

 
 
Posted by Havraha Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

I switched to Blackberry thinking it'd be a solid device that would be around for a while, but it looks like everyone is jumping ship for Android, and if RIM keeps doing things like not listening to app developers about tools, and releasing minor upgrades to phones and making new OSs, that are already looking pretty incremental, only loadable on the new phones... I don't think much of anyone in the US is going to be around for much longer if given a choice.

 
 
Posted by taylortbb Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 569 days ago

I don't get the complaints about not being able to load on current devices. Either OS6 is a minor revision, or they do something so significant you need a new phone. You can't do a major revision and keep the phone.

I wish my device would run OS6, but I'd rather have to buy a new device and get something good, than get something mediocre.

I don't expect my 80s TV to get HD, why did you expect it on a BlackBerry? You could say 80s is 25 years old, but remember, mobile devices evolve A LOT faster than TVs. 2 years old in mobile phone years is 25 in TV years.

 
 
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