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Posted by slinky317 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

The Tour 9630 is not "old hardware" - it was released less than a year go. What a joke.

 
 
Posted by jakeh0 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

my thoughts exactly

 
 
Posted by infinus Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago


Ya bro,
RIM's OS dev team is full of old lazy programmers and architects
Most of BB have more than 300mhz cpu and ram of 128

Nokians have made webkit possible in 300 mhz E71 with only 80 Mb or
Less available ram during execution time.

Shame on you RIM.

 
 
Posted by afrovballpride Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I agree. I'm extremely annoyed. I just bought my Blackberry Storm 2 at the end of October. If I don't get the full upgrade to WebKit and OS 6.0 I will be ditching Blackberry. Apple made an acceptable break with the iPhone 3G because that will be 2 YEARS old by the time it is left behind and a large number of purchasers will be eligible to upgrade, or at least close to it by then. It is unacceptable that these upgrades happen for Blackberry and my Storm 2 gets left behind when it is only 9 MONTHS old (assuming a late July release).

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Exactly. This post is insulting to 9630 owners and it honestly makes me feel embarrased to be a BlackBerry owner.

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

suck it up b!tch... early adoption always has its risks (9630 was 'new' and those who bought were early adopters... was the first 9XX0 series CDMA device that wasn't a Storm... GSM side had the Bold 9000 to weed things out... i don't see them complaining...)

 
 
Posted by slinky317 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

You can try to argue minutiae all you want, but at the end of the day the Tour is a BlackBerry, with the same form factor done numerous times before, those who bought it aren't early adopters. For it to be EOLed and forgotten in 9 months is ludicrous.

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I can't believe the amount of people who see no problem with what's going on. I truly feel bad for you that you can blindly accept this and instinctively think everything RIM does right. You should be a smarter consumer.

 
 
Posted by trophynuts Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

as a 9630 owner since day one i am in no way bothered by this at all. Why do so many people feel that RIM owes you the world cause you signed a contract six months before new shiz coming out. You knew that was possible when you signed the contract. If you don't like the way it works then stop signing contracts. I paid full retail out of my pocket for my 9630 and guess what im still not pissed at what RIM is doing. Now that i didn't sign a contract it is perfect timing cause i have an upgrade due in June. Stop blaming everything on RIM people and take some of the blame on yourself...

 
 
Posted by jmiles3bb Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

well said

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

+1

 
 
Posted by rxnasi Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I did the same thing and my upgrade is in dec not as fun as yours. It seems tour owners on here are the most B***** people. They complain about everything first os 5.0 than it was not what they expected. Than it was the tour 2 how it is taking to long now they are complaining about this. Everytime something does not go there way they are ditching their bb for an android or iphone I say go if that gets u off cb bitching about your phone.

 
 
Posted by G.4 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I am very happy with my Tour- it blows most of my colleagues phones out of the water and my boss even bought one when I showed off the features and abilities. I am also in NO way offended by new stuff coming out for new devices only. True, my phone is less than a year old, hardly "old" at all. But let me say that I am definitely buying a 9650 when it comes out for my carrier regardless of whether or not OS 6.0/webkit is available for the Tour or not. That's the fun of it all! To have the newest greatest device is the best feeling and I happen to believe that right now RIM has a lock on the whole market.

 
 
Posted by bpwnz Friday, Apr 23, 2010 661 days ago

About the time the 9630 was released crackberry posted this --

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-onyx-trackpad-spotted

-- Seeing this (and similar posts and pictures) convinced me to hold off on my upgrade from my 8330 until there was a CDMA equivalent of the 9700 (touchpad, wifi, revA.) Only a crazy person would assume RIM would wait 2 years for your 9630 to mature to bring these technologies to market.

You'll never have the latest and greatest, I think it's more important to know what features you want/need.

 
 
Posted by dirtyberry75 Friday, Apr 23, 2010 660 days ago

My experience with the BlackBerry Tour 9630 has been nothing less than amazing and I'm looking forward to purchasing the new Essex/Bold 9650 and I will once it hits the market; having more memory, WiFi and a track pad, I can't wait! But what I don't understand about RIM and this frustrates the hell out of me, is how they distribute their OS upgrades. Meaning they might post an upgrade for the Curve 8350 but only for the Verizon phone. If I owned an 8350 under a different carrier it may take two or three more months for my "official" upgrade to be announced! Or since I do own a Tour 9630, RIM will give two to three OS upgrades to other phone before the Tour gets just ONE! In the past month the Bold 9700 and Curve 8350 has had about three OS upgrade. The Storm 2 and Purl has had maybe two OS upgrades. Right now the latest Curve OS is higher than my Tour's OS, and the Tour is considered to be a "WORLD PHONE", so shouldn't its OS always be one step a head of any lesser grade phone?

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

That is ancient in today's fast paced technology world... just gotta accept that...

 
 
Posted by slinky317 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

No, it isn't. Even the iPhone supported phones that are 2 years old when doing upgrades.

It shows RIM doesn't know where they're going, and they're changing plans based on whims. The pulling of the Tour 2/Bold right before launch shows this further.

Go ahead and call me wrong - but please tell me, what has RIM done innovative recently?

 
 
Posted by dirtyberry75 Saturday, Apr 24, 2010 659 days ago

How pissed are you going to be when OS 6 is officially released for the Tour 9630 on the Sprint network. You may have a Tour 9630 but your network is through AT&T, so you can't enjoy the new upgrade maybe not until 2 MONTHS LATER! That is crazy. And to make matters even worse, other less distinguished phones (Curve 8XXX- Perl 9XXX) will receive the OS 6 upgrade or something damn near close to it! When an OS upgrade is released for a particular phone it should be
covered for that phone across the board. And the upgrade should always start at the more prominent phones first then trickle its way down. What sense does it make if I own the Bold 9700 and I'm waiting on an upgrade that the Perl 9100 already has?

 
 
Posted by PcolaChris Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Im have to keep this till august so i hope i get some good news next week.

 
 
Posted by shootermcg Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I'm in the same boat. I still have the storm 1. Come 8/1, I'm switching to the HTC Incredible or (fingers crossed) a Verizon iPhone. I'm done with RIM.

 
 
Posted by fobi740 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

i sure hope OS 6 and the webkit browser runs on the 9700

 
 
Posted by Deathcommand Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

They demo'd it on the 9700 remember?

I love how this make evry other device infeior...

 
 
Posted by mad_eyes Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I don't see why it wouldn't. The 9700 is the flagship device and was one of the most anticipated devices to be released.

Personally, the 9700 isn't what people need to worry about. I would be more concerned if I was a curve owner. I foresee the tour & storm running os 6.

On another note, I'm curious to see if bold 9000 will run os 6.

 
 
Posted by jlb21 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Ican see it now.....

whah, whah, whah, I want OS6 for my Tour. Why can't I have it?

- Here ya' go, here's OS6 for your Tour -

whah, whah, whah, why does OS6 suck so bad on my Tour. Shame on you RIM for such buggy crap.

All I know is that I am pretty darn happy with my Tour running stock OS4.7. We'll see......

 
 
Posted by slinky317 Friday, Apr 23, 2010 660 days ago

How are those 552 errors working out for you?

 
 
Posted by gjacolby@tmo.blackberry.net Wednesday, Apr 28, 2010 656 days ago

I purchased the 9700 just last year in November for the full price. I am a BB lover however I really would like to hold on to this phone for at least a year. I find it to be the best mobile device I have used. It would really suck if 9700 users do not get an update for 6.0 and the new webkit brower!! Im not going to be so anxious...ill wait to see whats happens!

 
 
Posted by ronmcse Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

What is the webkit browser and how does it differ from the browser OS 5 has?

 
 
Posted by garment69 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

"do your research miron"

kent brockman

 
 
Posted by Deathcommand Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Check your spelling... you miron..?
lol

 
 
Posted by garment69 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Jeeez.

 
 
Posted by mad_eyes Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

The short of it: think iphone style browser

 
 
Posted by gjacolby@tmo.blackberry.net Wednesday, Apr 28, 2010 656 days ago

I hope so too because it would really suck if 9700 didnt get those updates!! I believe that we dont have anything to worry about!

 
 
Posted by ashantiblack Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

NICEEEEEEEEEEE

 
 
Posted by stegerva Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

"we" need storm3 and bold3 with 1ghz cpu 1gb device memory (and let apps stay on sd card) webkit browser and os6 or RIM is going to be "OUT" of market very soon

 
 
Posted by kstagg Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Would love to see a Storm 3 and other large-screen displays that will take advantage of the touch capabilities of OS 6.0.

Sad that the 8520 - which just came out in - what? November 2009? Will most likely be left out of any update to OS 6.0 but to be honest, the thought of OS 6 on such a small screen, and the features it is capable of, makes me want a touch-screen capable phone with more display.

Afer seeing all the Dell phones coming out in the Fall of 2010 (see Engadget), it is going to be an exceptionally tough market.

 
 
Posted by Valace2 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I dunno about you but I am locked into a nice big fat two year deal, which means that I won't be getting anything until the DAMN Storm 4 comes out.

If this OS isn't compatible with the 9550 then RISM is going down the shithole at an even faster rate than they were and I will want no part of that.

 
 
Posted by EGerhardt Friday, Apr 23, 2010 661 days ago

What are you planning on doing with that extra punch dude ?

I really don't see why RIM would double up to 1gig of ram. Almost nothing currently on the market has that much, and I really don't see more than 1% of users being so demanding on their devices as to pass the 512 threshold.

512 is ample room for expansion for the next iteration of devices. Hell I don't see an hour glass on my 9000 unless I start doing unrealistic things (leaving multiple games and PDFs open then trying to browse the net while playing music).

I bet ya that battery life would be a greater limiting factor than RAM size if you really felt the need to punish a 512 device.

 
 
Posted by jeffreyhamby Friday, Apr 23, 2010 660 days ago

Nobody says that having eleventyhundred apps installed means running eleventyhundred apps simultaneously.

Flash memory is cheap now, why not make it available in the devices?

 
 
Posted by richro Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Will be extremely disappointed if the Tour 9630 doesn't get OS6.0/WebKit!

 
 
Posted by dysFUNKtional Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

How about the Tour 9630?? Will that be able to get 6.0 as well considering they are no longer gonna make them.. This is so damn depressing.

 
 
Posted by lcargile01 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I just really want to know if the Storm 2 is going to be getting the new upgrade once and for all. If that gets answered, then ill be a happy camper...well, if that gets answered yes anyways, lol.

 
 
Posted by afropoika Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Storm2 then is? C'mon, Storm2 is dying for a Webkit, if we ain't getting it, then bye bye RIM.

 
 
Posted by greeneink Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

more and more I'm thinking I'm not gonna WASTE my upgrade until after 6.0 comes out so I can wait on the 1G device memory. I've tired of playing Rim's game of "obsolete in 6 months hardware"

 
 
Posted by MarketRide Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Every device becomes obsolete soon. The more we demand better performance and features the faster things get left behind. It's not just RIMM's problem it is a problem for all tech companies.

 
 
Posted by seahwhat Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

I wouldn't agree with that completely. Yes eventually every device will become obsolete, but not after 6 months. The iPhone 3G is almost 2 generations behind and people are still buying and using them. Compare that to the tour, its like saying the 3gs isn't going to run OS4. Android seems to fly through phones as well though

 
 
Posted by ssharp77 Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

It's definitely inevitable. It really just depends on where we are with technology in general. Moore's Law tells us roughly 18 months. Most of the stuff that comes out has probably been in the works for that long, or longer, before it's actually released. But based on the release schedule it may seem like 6 months. So I agree with you on the fact that it wouldn't happen after just 6 months. It just seems like it to us.

 
 
Posted by cavaliere Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Technology does not have to be obsolete in 18 months unless it was garbage to begin with. I have an almost 3 year old notebook computer that wasn't cutting edge at the time but almost 6 months old when I bought it. I'm still running all programs, new Office 2010 beta, windows 7 etc w/o any problems.

 
 
Posted by Lumute Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

Totally agree with you, the problem is RIM is getting tons of money from people buying phones every 6 months so they keep making new models that can barely run the current verion of the sodtware so they can sell you a new slightly "more powerfull" phone in 6 months with the pretext that you need it to run their ultra suopper wow new software, which is just the same software with some changes people have been asking for ages... example, how is it that everyone here is getting so exited about future phones having 512MB when the first iphone ever was released with 8GB?????? just plain stupid... I am really getting tired of this to the point of moving to an iphone or a droid...

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Thursday, Apr 22, 2010 661 days ago

It's called fanboyism. A lot of people here don't compare any "changes" with anything else happening in the smartphone market. Instead they choose to compare it only to prior BlackBerry's, which OF COURSE is going to make every new device seem great and powerful, when in reality it doesn't come anywhere close to the hardware found on all the other platforms.

 
 
Posted by EGerhardt Friday, Apr 23, 2010 661 days ago

You can't just compare raw specs to determine what is and what isn't 'best'.

As a worked example -

I wish to buy a vehicle with the most horsepower.

I have shopped around and have seen that your common or garden sports cars top out around 400, but what is clearly the superior vehicle for my power-hungry tastes is an M1 Abrams. Its 1500 horsepower makes it better, because all that matters is the BHP.

Same with smartphones. Each OS makes its own demands on the hardware, and applications can be more or less efficient with the available power and RAM.

To finally batter this car metaphor into the ground...
What use is a car with 400 BHP and a 200mph top speed when the VAST majority of drivers will never go past their local legal limit.

This is pretty much how I see droids boasting crazy fast processors and ram. Yes, a VERY few people will take their porsche to a track and let it fly. But the VAST VAST VAST majority of people will never even notice the ZOMG awesome specs and use it exactly the same as their previous device.

I like to think that I'm not a fanboy btw. I defend a lot of RIMs decisions here, but I'm still sitting on my 9000 until I see a reason to upgrade it.

Maybe 6.0 is that reason, but I bet you can work out what I WON'T be looking at when I choose an upgrade device ;)