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Posted by dysFUNKtional Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

RIP Tour 9630.. :(

 
 
Posted by JRSCCivic98 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 666 days ago

Get used to the idea of Tour 9650. lol That way, you guys won't be disappointed when it comes out with only 256MB of Flash.

 
 
Posted by Bodero Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

"YOUR ID HAS BEEN CAPTURED AND SENT TO CORPORATE SECURITY."

What a threatening message!

 
 
Posted by NinjaRose Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Sombody is going to get fired, because you know that when they check that ID, they will check CrackBerry. We already lost people this month for that reason. LOL!

 
 
Posted by alikoolg Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

u mean
UTMS/HSDPA Dual Band 900/1800 Mhz ????

surprisingly no 3G 2100 Mhz ?????

 
 
Posted by SLVR6 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

It says GPRS/UMTS, never says UTMS/HSDPA Dual Band 900/1800 Mhz anywhere, look at the pic.

 
 
Posted by jzachlee Friday, Apr 16, 2010 666 days ago

it says 3G Smartphone right on the top of the spec. 2100 Frequency band is for Europe, Asia, Australia and Brazil only.

 
 
Posted by abelmb Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Or should I wait for the slider blackberry? Suggestions?

 
 
Posted by Riders On The Storm Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

If you are on Verizon then this will be a pretty good option. I don't know if the slider's specs have been leaked; however, knowing RIM I would bet there are not tremendous hardware upgrades (other than the sliding form factor and touchscreen) over the 9700.

 
 
Posted by abelmb Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I actually like them.

 
 
Posted by Riders On The Storm Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

If you're on T Mo then I'd recommend the 9700 should be a solid device. I can't speak from experience, but the majority of people on here who have one seem to love it. Also, since the slider is just a bunch of photos, who knows how long you may have to wait.

And with my experience with the Storm 1, RIM's entry into a new market (in my case touchscreen devices) was rocky. The slider will be something new, so it may be worth a wait to see how the OS pans out.

 
 
Posted by TheOnlyMorgan Friday, Apr 16, 2010 666 days ago

My advice is wait for the HTC EVO 4G.

 
 
Posted by davidsnoodles Friday, Apr 16, 2010 666 days ago

with sprint? no thank you.

 
 
Posted by mjm2005 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 666 days ago

What is the issue with Sprint? I have a Tour on Verizon right now, and honestly, it's getting old fast.

As much as I love BlackBerry (had 8703, 8830, 9000, 9630), they need to step up their game before I consider them a real competitor again.

The HTC Incredible and the Evo 4G seem like where I'm probably headed...because this updated Tour looks like more like an iPhone "refresh" than a legit improvement. Maybe what the first Tour should have been...even then I'd still consider ditching the BB.

 
 
Posted by ASLgeek Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 665 days ago

It seems your issue is with RIM/Blackberry though not Verizon. I'm considering the HTC Evo but with if it's a must to have Sprint...I just may consider holding out until it gets released elsewhere. I've done business with them before and they are a tad shady to me. They are like the CDMA equivalent to AT&T which is exactly why I no longer have my iPhone. Depends on how bad I want it.

 
 
Posted by Jonneh Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 665 days ago

AT&T may have sucky 3G service in a lot of areas (which they are currently still working on; expanding their network and properly dispersing the iphone 3G load), but they are not "shady" by any means. And also, I've heard from many people that Sprint has upped their game and are much better in their customer service department than 3-5 years back.

 
 
Posted by decaren Sunday, Apr 18, 2010 664 days ago

You'll find the toys that seem fun and do cool things will send you back to blackberry soon enough. I can't stand how broken all these other phones are that are considered to be better. I've had multiple phones in the past year including the iphone, droid, and pre/pre plus. When it comes down to it, the iphone and android phones are toys. Blackberries are tools. The pre oddly enough is about the best mix between both and I believe that comes from Palm's history of making true smartphones. But if you want a true tool for business (small or large), Blackberry is your only option.

 
 
Posted by Riders On The Storm Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

The fact sheet also does not say anything about GPS. I'm guessing, as you mentioned Adam, there must have been more facts below.

 
 
Posted by ddsimon Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

"Unapproved Access - Your ID has been captured and sent to Corporate Security".

Ah, the sacrifices we make for the good of the Crackberry community. ; )

I've been waiting for this announcement. Thanks Adam.

 
 
Posted by ronmcse Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I am a little confused? It says GSM, I thought Verizon was CDMA???

 
 
Posted by awperk Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

it's a world phone so it does CDMA in the US and GSM internationally with a SIM

 
 
Posted by clf1024 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Is it rumored to have the camera, but w/ no flash?!

 
 
Posted by SLVR6 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

The leaked pics of the Bold branding on the phone clearly show a flash. Quite trying to start false rumors!

 
 
Posted by TheMiz Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Read it again
It states Camera w/ Flash

 
 
Posted by jakeh0 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 
 
Posted by Grafixx01 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Awesome!

This is awesome but I'm HATING the release date. I seriously hope it changes to an earlier date. This is getting a little ridiculous. I wonder if RIM is ready to release the phone but it's VZW pushing it further back so that people who have the 9630 don't start hasseling them for a discount for an upgrade to the 9650 since it's replacing the 9630 less than a year after the release?

I mean, I know I'll get the phone but still, it's a little riduclous. VZW Corporate Regional Reps that I know and talk to daily continually tell me that the main reason why it takes so long to release BlackBerries and other smartphones on VZW is because of the Q&C process that VZW has. Even they say that sometimes the standards are set way too high and that they (VZW) actually loses out with phones because of this Q&C process.

I told him, "I know. Like the fact that my Tour is running os 5.0.0.591 since it got leaked and you have yet to release it but it's coming at the end of this month." He was all like, "Really? I haven't heard anything of the sort. Can you upgrade my OS for me?"

Anyways... Back to the original subject, I just hope this thing gets released a few weeks earlier, like the first or second week in May.

 
 
Posted by andriakaye Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

It's a month and a half away..not a big deal...I wouldn't expect it to come any sooner. If anything, it would seem logical to expect it to be pushed back, it's not like they've released that date to the public.

 
 
Posted by Devilstar Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Specs may not look to great but it looks to be a decent upgrade from my 8330m curve... wonder if sprint has the same date or if they are even getting this phone???

 
 
Posted by mystic205 Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 665 days ago

Sprint are getting this phone.. it was first announced back in Aug 09 "a tour with wifi in 1Q10".. and btw it is in sprints systems

 
 
Posted by KSW1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

The 2 test devices I have in hand, have 2GB built in Memory. You can read more on the thread I started in the 9630 section, located here:

http://forums.crackberry.com/f141/got-my-hands-9650-a-454527/

 
 
Posted by allargon Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Seriously, the widescreen is great. However, 256MB isn't enough for Apps. I'm already down to 64MB free on my Curve 8900. I have to keep a good bit free for NotifyLink to work.

Grr...

RIM, we need more memory. And, don't tell me to go back in time and buy a Bold 9000.

 
 
Posted by KSW1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Read the post above yours!

 
 
Posted by Big Dawg 23 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

They need to address the outdated parts they use. Look at the HTC Droid Incredible which is 1GHZ Snapdragon, 1GB of Ram and 8GB of on board memory, not to mention MicroSD slot.

I ditched both of my Blackberries for a Droid. They operating system is some much faster and nicer. My wife still has a Curve that I keep update for her and now she is looking at a 8520.

Besides the memory, how about updated beyond the 2004 3.2MB camera?

 
 
Posted by KSW1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I just stated it has 2gb's of built in memory... I can prove this with a picture if needed.

 
 
Posted by DolfanCole Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

They're talking RAM memory, not media card or other memory. I'd be incredibly surprised to see 2GB of RAM.

 
 
Posted by KSW1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

He specifically said 256mb of memory for apps... well it has 2gb's of memory for apps. As I stated I can prove this with a picture!

 
 
Posted by DolfanCole Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I know he said 256MB app memory. In my non-belief, I thought you misinterpreted what you were seeing. So, please do provide a picture showing 2GB of app memory. This is such a huge leap from any other available phone or even rumored phone from what I've seen, so it's hard for me to believe that it does have what you say.

 
 
Posted by TheElderBerry Friday, Apr 16, 2010 666 days ago

It has 256Mb for apps.

 
 
Posted by eve6er69 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 666 days ago

it amazes me that people like this get pre releases and know absolutely nothing about blackberries.
2gb of internal memory is for music and pics.

 
 
Posted by DolfanCole Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

The features don't really excite me too much, as it's not too much of an upgrade from my Tour (at least for the functions/features that interest me). I'm due for an upgrade in Dec on one of my lines. So, I'll just wait and possibly do the upgrade then. Maybe by then, a new OS will be out to fix all of the initial problems. :-)

 
 
Posted by Panthro Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

the longer it takes for this phone to drop the less impressive it becomes. especially with the Evo, Incredible, HD2, and the new iphone coming out whenever. I love bb and verizon but these waits are getting more and more painful. and if the slider is gsm then there probably wont be another bb released on verizon for a full year. and this phone with these specs is close to being obsolete before it even releases. I'm starting to think its better to have no loyalties to any brand or carrier and just go where the wind takes you.

 
 
Posted by jorGeorge Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Exactly. I can't believe the amount of people who actually think they are getting a worthy upgrade here. It's almost insulting to wait this long for such a minimal upgrade.

 
 
Posted by dm3ready Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

The only thing that is "incredible" or "bold" from RIM is how loooong it takes them to release a subpar phone. With these specs it should have dropped back in Dec or Jan.
I believe there are a sizeable # of disappointed BB fans, like myself, that are going to give the htc Incredible a try.
What a shame, RIM!

 
 
Posted by hdizzle1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

So how does thus really differ from the 9700 Bold? Is it really a massive improvement?

 
 
Posted by KSW1 Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Not at all. The 9700 still supersedes the 9650. The 2 devices I have, still have a slower processor. Same camera... the only thing I can see that is an improvement over the 9700 is the 2GB's of built in memory.

 
 
Posted by shabbs Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

I don't understand what RIM is doing here... a new device... with outdated specs... they need to beef up the cpu and app memory seriously on all their new model releases... this is getting silly.

 
 
Posted by drpainmd Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

looks like someones id was taken by the big boys!!!run!!!

 
 
Posted by Dendrite Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

"the longer it takes for this phone to drop the less impressive it becomes. especially with the Evo, Incredible, HD2, and the new iphone coming out"

+1. As we thought might be case, under the hood this is nothing but the same ol' phone that we were all chatting about here on CB last winter. When it's released in May or June, I'm afraid it's going to appear somewhat long in the tooth from the get go vs. the above competition. Many of us thought the 9650 would be here in February. Simply taking the same 9650 phone that Sal and others had us primed for and printing Bold on the back doesn't seem like it should then delay release of the device for another 3 or 4 months...

 
 
Posted by xlover Friday, Apr 16, 2010 667 days ago

Are we sure if that is a screen shot of verizons system or a 3d party vendor? that "i" logo in the top right doesnt seem like something verizon would have on an internal system. Which would make the late may seem more accurate as it will probably release to verizons own stores first and 3rd party after. plus if you look at how verizon lays out the specs on their customer facing site this would not follow the same hierarchy of features. also the foolish errors like listing camera then camera with flash..
no mention of VZ navigator or PTT which i assume verizon would call out internally as a selling point.but a 3rd party probably wouldnt care about that as much

 
 
Posted by LaFrance1987 Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 666 days ago

The I stands for infomanager. Internal tool