More photos of the BlackBerry 9800 Slider and BlackBerry 9670 Clamshell Showing off BlackBerry 6

i wonder if slider will have virtual keyboard too.

to be a touch screen and have a trackpad

nice to see OS-6 on it too

of an addict?? hehe

I am not a big fan of either. But I see the slider appealing to a younger demographic and I see the clamshell appealing to the female demographic (I could easily see my sister rocking the clamshell).

But, again, I'd rather neither existed and RIM focused on other things.

The more I see this slider, the more I become drawn to it. If it comes to T-Mobile, depending on how well that Touchscreen REALLY works with OS6, I might just... *gulp* have a replacement for my 9700 O_o

Man, those are some ugly phones. Hopefully those won't actually hit production.

I don't think the clamshell looks too bad in that picture. Of the two however I'm much more likely to buy the slider.

one word: FUGLY!

Are so god awful fugly. The clamshell makes me vomit a little everytime I see it.

Its a shame that BB6 will be released on those god awful fugly looking misshapen missmash devices.

I want BB6 but knowing how often the 9550 gets leaks and VZW's Bell's and Telus's lazy could give a shit less attitude about software upgrades I am not expecting this until around December. Would make a great Xmas present. That is if I have already switched to the EVO 4G

I thought the first set of leaked pictures showed the slider on the CDMA network??? More specifically Sprint.

Fugly doesn't even begin to cover it! The only way these phones are going to sell is if their OS's are considerably much better than the ones that are in current BB's

BUYING EITHER ONE OF THESE. I dont want anything to do with them but 6.0. I will keep my 9700 and/or get the new pearl 3g. Verizon and ATT can keep this crap.

Just my $.02

I guess rim is determined to release that ugly monstrosity they call a blackberry.

I normally would say I hate sliders, I've had a few, but this slider does look pretty good, I'd give it a shot. I figure by December I can sneak in another phone into my gadget budget, so bring me these phones with CDMA!

UNLESS RIM launched the 9000 updated, with specs similar to modern phones,

So RIM did away with the Tour brand...which to me still doesn't make sense because it differentiated the CDMA top of the line from the GSM top of the line, but that's neither here nor there. I think the 9800 should NOT be lumped into the Bold line but instead be given a name to highlight the fact that the combination of touch and keyboard is a first for RIM, so something like the Blackberry Genesis for example. Now the (fugly) clamshell thing would probably fall under the Bold line since the keyboard layout is similar if not the same, so Bold Flip makes sense to me there. Yes I realize the slider has the similar keyboard as well, but having too many things named Bold will get confusing to the un-savvy consumer really fast.

Any thoughts on those names?

That the slider is a touch screen device or is it still speculation? I still don't get why a trackpad and touchscreen?

is it me or does nobody like these?

did RIM do any market research here?

Neither of these interest me. I'd rather have a Bold type device with a touch screen. I really hope they don't wait months after the Slider launch to put BB 6 on the 9650.

Those two images of the slider are heavily photoshop'ed... don't even know where to begin...

the 9800 doesn't have a touchscreen!!!!
pleaz, how come it has that trackpad? if it indeed had a touchscreen, it would look like the storm, just 4 buttons, no trackpad!! and what really proves it's not a touchscreen BB is the fact the message icon is selected, the storm 2 homescreen the icons doesn't remain selected, the blue aura fades away once you put your finger off the screen

Again...RIM's co-CEOs' are idiots...just put together at least one decent full keyboard phone and one touch screen phone that works well with a decent OS and you can succeed....not with this crap though!

The Slider should be called.... BlackBerry 8900 Thunder, keep all touch screen devices under the weather format

Storm 1 9500, 9530,
Storm 2 9520, 9550,
Thunder 1 9800

and so on

Please God let it be just a prototype or a fake unit. These are uglier than the new Microsoft phones.

The clamshell is total garbage and needs to be killed. And a slider with no touchscreen, is it 2004? C'mon RIM, jsut build a decent virtual keyboard instead.

Everyone is bitching just like everytime a new 5 series BMW comes out. And then when the one after that is revealed everyone bitches that they liked the last one better. It will grow on you because of how well they work

to those bitching that the slider won't have a touchscreen:
1. OS6 preview video was showcasing large touchscreen
2. RIM themselves said OS6 will launch with a new device
So, either they are going to bust Storm 3 out of nowhere in a couple months, or the slider has a touchscreen.

make sense?

I'll give the slider a try. If it has balance issues then back to the 9700 when it gets 6.0. Screen size isn't a big deal for me, but let's try it out and see how it goes.

What's up with all the clamshell haters. Maybe it's RIM's middle finger to Verizon :-D for trying to dictate form factors.

The slider is the BB ideal, touchscreen plus their "can't be beat" keyboard. NNNNice!

To the yet to come iPhone and Droid lovers, why are you hear? We don't want to hear from you so give your fingers a rest and move on to some other website.

the slider isn't that bad looking.

Not a fan, but just saw the "closed" pic of the clam shell on Cellular Guru and it looked kind of cool.

how dumb are both of these phones people??? c'mon RIM, give us something we want....more RAM, better OS, more appealing browser! sheesh!

Does anyone know where i can get that wallpaper?

Sorry RIM but that slider just doesn't cut it.

Make it a horizontal slider and I'm very interested.

I'm all for a slider but why in the hell would I want it to slide so that it's in portrait mode. I would only want a slider because I want the physical keyboard but I would want to see the big screen in landscape mode. I think this was a big mistake because it's obviously aimed at younger users who will be using it more for multimedia and who wants to watch a youtube video or music video in portrait mode when there's that big screen. Screwed themselves if you ask me.

The OS of the future on device designs going back through time. Where's the dakota? Or a sleeker touchscreen/slider. Clunk

I Would have to agree on the slider in the portrait mode, not a good thing. Change to lanscape and you got me. Clamshell just not very appealing at all.

Why is RIMM trying to appeal to every single form factor demographic out there? Touchscreen, 3 standard forms, clamshell standard, pearl candy bar, slider. Are they still making the pearl clamshell? Either way, thats 7 different phones you may have to choose from if you want a BB. Their quality and innovations has been slipping since they decided to make a form factor for everyone in the world.

I'm like the only one of CB who doesn't think the Clameshell totally sucks! NOT that I would get one, but it's not THAT bad! I'd take one if big red gave me one, and I would enjoy it. :)

I would prefer to see a storm 3, or even the sliders keyboard being slid out landscape rather than portrait

I might just have to get it when it comes out. It is really growing on me. I like the fact that the keyboard and face are protected. Wouldn't need a case. Very practical, even if it looks ugly to many!

im so mad, i was gonna stick with blackberry cuz i thought the slider would be for sprint...now i know im for sure going to PRE in july

why the keyboard has not been installed long?

Think about it this way - for those who like the clamshell form factor there will be no better device by any manufacturer then the 9670.

I wouldn't mind the keypad sliding out but I would rather have it go the other way. It looks like a Palm Pixi more than a Blackberry. Oh well that's my thought....

I'm not a big fan of the slider or the clamshell. I'll stick with the Storm2 and wait for the Storm3 to come out.
Having said that, I'm not going to piss all over RIM for adding a couple new phones to the lineup. I'm sure they will make a profit on both.

RIM can make 100 different models, I don't care. As long as they keep making the Storm.

I think i'm leaving blackberry when my contract runs out. I enjoyed my BB but its time to move on to better phones. I have tried to wait on BB to compete with other phones that are out here. They refuse to do it, so i think its time for me to move on.

A lot of people are pretty sure the slider will have a touch screen, I wonder if it will have Surepress too.

I'm surprised by the comments wanting landscape. As long as the balance issues are solved this slider will leave us with the Bold 9000/9700 keyboards bb users are used to and like.

However RIM is good at producing different phones so maybe they will do a landscape keyboard as well.

I hope it doesn't have sure press. Why bother, it has a keyboard.

No thanks I'll wait for the S3

I was not very optimistic about the slider but now I see it with OS6 on it, I'm liking what I see. Hope it is as versatile as Android or iPhone and I am staying.

I'm still waiting for a BB like the Magnum that was discussed so long ago. Tour/Bold form factor, full keyboard, and touch screen. All the functionality that you want with the looks to boot. What happened to that one?

i gotta say
i'm starting to like that blackberry slider :]

I am really into the slider. BB will always be function over form. I defected to an iphone for 18 months and, while it was a cool toy, I missed my email/calendar and believe it or not, the BB OS. This slider is great for me in that it keeps me in a berry, while giving me some of the things the old htc phones had! OS 6 isn't going to revolutionize the mobile phone world, but it sure will make my BB more useful. That's what I'm looking for. If I wanted a droid, I'd get one. If I wanted another iphone, I'd buy a touch. When it comes down to it, you're either an addict and will find a BB that suits you, or go somewhere else. No judgement. Just go quietly please.

I see that RIM cant let go of the ugly black/dark borders for the banner on top and the icon rows. What a way to ruin a perfectly good wallpaper. Cant RIM have clear banner lines instead of the ugly dark border.

The clamshell is god aweful, how can you makes phones like the 9100/9105 and the Bold 9700 then make that clamshell. Lol. The slider is weird but nothing to ride home about. RIM needs to do some re-thinking to what they want their phones to look like.

I would prefer a BlackBerry Storm 3 for myself, because I'm partial to phones with no moving parts. Until then I will stick with my trusty BB Tour 9630, which has been very good to me (Sprint). But that BB Slider will appeal to a lot of users. It will attract some people who would never consider another BB.

The slider has touch AND trackpad! It eliminates the choice between touch and standard. Especially with the seemingly very touch-friendly 6.0, this is amazing. I don't think the design is ugly at all. It's rounded like a standard Blackberry and the keyboard is still functional. I think everyone just isn't used to it. I think RIM did great with this one. My contract isn't up for a while, but I'd definitely be interested if it came out for Verizon.

The clamshell concept doesn't do it for me. It didn't work with the Pearl Flip and it's not really working now. Thank you, RIM, for trying, but you're just not there.

I could live with the slider but even more so if it slide the landscape that would allow for a huge lovely touch screen. For those saying they want a Blackberry not a t mobile side kick, hell they made that clam-monster a landscape slider IE: Moto Droid. With a AMOLED screen running Black Berry 6, I would come running back.

I am so waiting for this to finally arrive...
Slider, touchscreen and qwerty keyboard, everything I want in a phone and its blackberry!!!!
My Bold 9000 is great but this will be better....
Hope RIM make the screen large enough with the latest grunt under the hood..

I would love a large touch screen with that same keyboard as my Bold 9000, but the track pad of the 9700. This way I don't have to type with 2 hands. I can use the touch screen when I want. And I can use the keyboard to type and the track pad to specifically place my cursor when typing.

Wow - this is seriously fugly. RIM should have taken a design page out of the Pre's book - sorry but my Pre kicks all my previous Berry's asses, the screen is so much more responsive than my Storm, and the OS is smooth. I've gotten stopped quite a bit with it too by people asking what it is because it looks so good. The Pre is gorgeous. That thing up there is hideous.

Hands down two of the ugliest phone designs I've seen from any company ever. I Love BlackBerry but these two need to get scrapped immediately. I can already see how much money they are going to lose putting these into production. Who ever is in charge needs to have their head smacked off. Why would you introduce your new OS on these? What they should do is bring the BB 6 to the Storm 2 and focus on the Storm 3 already. I Love my Storm 2..ever since the new OS update on the 9550 its been performing flawless. Only thing needed is that Webkit browser and more memory to run apps. Throw in a Snapdragon Processor and you have the best BlackBerry of all time. Storm 2 and Bold 9700 = 2 of the sexiest blackberries ever! Scrap this ugly clamshell and slider. YUCK..I'm ABOUT TO GO VOMIT...EXCUSE ME.

still don't think the slider has a touch screen, as there is a track pad that is on the screen half there is no need for the touch screen, and the bezel around the screen isn't large enough too support the connections. . Still is one device I would realy want, any release dates yet?

Hell yeah, I do want the slider) a kind of a Dream Blackberry.

Touch screen a physical keyboard. When one appears in Russia officialy, I'm gonna be the first one to get it.

the slider device may be real and so may the OS but these photos aren't. the alignments are slightly skewed from one shot to the next, check the positions with the blackberry logo. the reflections don't add up either.

wish all carriers would all get
the same phones and stop this
exclusive crap.

Man are there a lot of cry babies in this forum or what?!?!? I wasnt going to post but felt compelled to after reading. People are complaining about the slider and the clamshell, who cares...if you don't like the phones then oh well. I'm sure RIM will release many other phones over the next several years that appeal to all.
People are threatening to leave...go ahead and move on if you feel let down by RIM, believe me I quietly tried it with both Android and Apple and came running back to RIM!
I think people are so caught up in the Android and iPhone hype that they are trying to compare the Blackberry to them...that's why people are getting upset when they see devices like the BB slider and clamshell. Personally I think people got it all backwards...RIM is not trying to chip away at iPhones or Androids 10-15% of the market...they are going after the big guy "Nokia" who has 40%+ of the world market. From a our (consumer/enduser) stand point it may not be the most appealing but from a business standpoint its a very very smart move for RIM. They're not in the top 5 in the world because they piss people off! ;)
On a personal note, I love my 9700 but would love to try the slider....I gave the storm 2 a try because I really want more screen real estate but I miss the physical qwerty so good on ya RIM for trying to mix the two! Cheers!!
That's my two Canadian cents!! :)

Come on RIM! Smashing work on the 6.0 OS when that drops but these 2 phones are god awful. Absolute trash in my opinion, whats the deal?? That flip is plain stupid looking...and the 9800...meh.

If the slider also becomes avail in cdma (not just GSM) I'm Sold (yeah I said I'd buy one) and i just might have to trade my storm for it and if it's true Big Red requested the 9670 then i've found a replacement for the wifes 8830 but for now im going to stick to me 9530.

Did you guys know that just because you have a blackberry you don't have to agree with everything blackberry does.

Before I was allowed to reply to your silly remarks I had to hit a button that said "comment" it didnt say if RIM puts out a phone dubbed CLAMSHELL we have to like it or not post our feelings about it.

The guys on this site expect this and even place Polls for reactions in which the majority hated the look.

So in fact you guys are the complete cry baby minorities.

Thats a Silver dollar for your a$$. LMAO :)

i was hoping it was going to be a sprint phone!! I was excited to hear that rumor...I like the look of the slider, although it does fall in the trendy category of all the new phones it is nice to have that big screen w the keyboard option.

of phone of these phones. very much so. BlackBerries should flip slide... whatever. As long as they continue the Curve series in several colours, Im happy.

The slider looks like a nice phone. I just wish RIM would've came up with the idea a little sooner. I would love to have the touch screen with a regular keyboard.

I hope it does hit ATT first. I would love for them to come out with a touch blackberry, FINALLY. Their pricing has dropped, usually a sign for something new, soon!

That is the most hideous looking thing that has ever been built by mankind! And if I were high I'd be trying to kill it! I think the guys at RIM must be joking! Right? There is no way on Gods green earth they are going to build that thing unless they really hate the company that they are building it for. I mean I don't like AT&T but it's not like I wanna see all those innocent. people loose their jobs just the guy I cussed out about 5-6 years ago is all.

I would've preferred landscape slide, although I'm sure that's already in the works somewhere. You guys have to remember that rim knew the 85xx/9700 would do well and is now using different models to target different demographics and types of users. It's nothing personal.. just good business. You can't continuously improve one model over and over again and expect to survive. Only BMW is good at that.

They could release a bb that has no letters on the keys and there would still be a demographic that would buy the shit out of it. They know what they're doing.

what are you doing here if you so love the android os? I see no benefit to having the most invasive and spyware laden os the world has ever seen. just give all, and i do mean ALL of your personal information directly to google. that way they won't have to work very hard to see what you're up to, where you live and where you happen to be at any moment in time with your gps enabled. stay away from anything google, the world will be a better place.