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Posted by dterio Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Ha! An entire article on BlackBerry battery pull! How ironic RIM!

 
 
Posted by MarcBernard Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

As a software developer, it's amazing to me that people put up with this. If there are memory leaks bad enough to reboot your phone regularly, then app vendors (and RIM) need to step up and fix them.

 
 
Posted by guavaberry Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

You are right sir. IMHO if an app is causing the phone to reboot regularly it should be removed. I'm not sure why the article says a regular reboot is necessary. To me that indicates a problem.

 
 
Posted by Big Dawg 23 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I couldn't agree more. The Battery pull is one the biggest reason I walked from BB. The battery pull is bad enough the reboot time is a utter Joke. Every other phone OS reboots in about 2 minutes or less. My wife now has the 9700 and it is no better on boot time. The Storm is the worst.

I still do not understand where there isn't a reboot option in the menu.

 
 
Posted by wilsonryanp Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

My 9700 running OS6 reboots in roughly a minute and a half to two minutes!

 
 
Posted by rkb89 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

it's quite simple. download one of the reset apps (such as quickpull) and have it reset every night at 4am. that's what i do and i never have to deal w/ its slow resetting or waiting. stop complaining and use your brain. apparently everybody looked over the iphone's radio issues and "just putting a bumper" over it, so add an application and deal w/ it. reset the phone while you sleep and your "issue" will be gone. sheeeesh.

 
 
Posted by Redz20 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

You must also consider that a bb charges up (on/off button, not a hard reset) faster than any other smartphone out there.
The hard reboot does, indeed, take forever. But you don't really have to do it so often, unless you install apps that require you to.

It's just something specific to its hardware and software. It could, indeed, be improved. But I don't find this matter a reason to stop using these phones. Come on now.. :)

 
 
Posted by nolhayes Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 548 days ago

idk what you guys are talking about, I have had a blackberry for years and reboots are usually necessary when a new app begins to be bugging or you just doing something out the norm on your device. I reboot mine about twice a week, the most. Not every day or every other day. And now I have the Torch the reboot rate remains the same, usually caused by buggy apps.

 
 
Posted by rcm1301 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

why is it still neccessary to reboot Window PCs? Maybe they should remove your software.

 
 
Posted by Emu the Foo Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I needs to be done on a pc, BlackBerry and when I had my iphone it needed reboots almost daily. Now I'm rebooting it on average once a week and with os6 it only takes about a minute and a half.

 
 
Posted by Emu the Foo Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I needs to be done on a pc, BlackBerry and when I had my iphone it needed reboots almost daily. Now I'm rebooting it on average once a week and with os6 it only takes about a minute and a half.

 
 
Posted by yeahman Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I could be wrong but it was my belief that since at least OS5, a hard reset is identical to a soft reset and a double-soft is just stupid.

 
 
Posted by Accidental Post Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I now own a DROID X

 
 
Posted by Lucky45 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

But yet you're still here...

 
 
Posted by Nesquik Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

that was clever! =D i lol'd.

+1

 
 
Posted by Redz20 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I'd give you a thumbs up for your reply

 
 
Posted by Techno-Emigre Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

...with your little nose pressed up against the glass of the wonderful world of BlackBerry ... shivering with cold ... gripping your other device in your cold little hand yelling out loud, "I will not go on CrackBerry.com, I will not wish I still had a BB, I will not make myself look like a troll on the chats ... I WILL be happy with my choice ..."

 
 
Posted by jstrianese Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I've had my Storm2 since about spring, and I have yet to do a battery pull or use any of those apps. I have verizon, and I simply dial ##000000 and enter "vzw" for the SIP password, save, and the phone reboots itself for me. :)

 
 
Posted by chaloney Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

id rather just pull the battery...

 
 
Posted by Emu the Foo Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

LOL +1

 
 
Posted by johntkong Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Whether it's a BB or not, if my phone is acting up, a batt pull almost always resolves the issue(s).

Same with other electronic devices, unplug it!

 
 
Posted by SniperFery Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 548 days ago

Yeah I agreed, most electronical devices use the batt pull for resolving freezing and other stuff!! My Samsung G5 when it freezes or lag, I'll probably do the batt pull even though it's an android phone

 
 
Posted by 9of13 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

QuickLaunch also has a reset feature

 
 
Posted by veii Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Reminds me of the 'good 'ol days' when you had to do this sort of thing (restarting all the time) to keep your Windows-based PC running smoothly. Always amused me that people blindly put up with it.
My Bold 9700 when running OS 5 never seems to need a battery pull. With OS 6 it needs one every couple of days.

 
 
Posted by guavaberry Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Resets/reboots/battery pulls were not uncommon for me when I used a WM Treo device. I haven't experienced any problems with my BB device that caused me to do a reset.

 
 
Posted by RCNA Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

This is one of the many reasons why I switched to the new iPhone. You think RIM would have fixed this major issue by now.

 
 
Posted by elche1988 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Don't tell me that the iphone works better. I have an iPhone 4 and a BlackBerry Torch ( I work for Rogers and they give me a Demo line with the iPhone 4, Blackberry 9800 its my personal choice )and that shit does need a soft reset from time to time... The reception sucks and it goes on and on... But of course when it comes to sell it, it's the best phone ever to me =P Hahahaha

 
 
Posted by Emu the Foo Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

LOL. Seriously. Went into att for my friend and the lady was like, "if you get the iphone 4, of course you want a case because of the reception problem. And the back is glass and we don't want that breaking do we?" Real multi tasking for life!

 
 
Posted by Lucky45 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Must be a slow news day...

 
 
Posted by ghostnyc Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Ridiculously SLOW NEWS DAY

 
 
Posted by RWWackoStu Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

A battery pull ceases all electronic function, and allows for a complete reset and reload. A soft reset does not. They are two very different things.

 
 
Posted by mrtolles Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Do you unplug you PC every time you need to restart it? Probably not b/c a reboot restarts all the services running and clear up most problems.

There are times when something goes terrible wrong when installing or uninstalling an app that i feel a battery pull is needed but in most cases simply restarting all services clears them memory and errors.

 
 
Posted by colemaneuclid Monday, Nov 22, 2010 545 days ago

I had a laptop that would act up from time to time and the only solution was to unplug AND pull the battery out for a minute or two.

 
 
Posted by goberrygo Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Yes I too thought that soft and hard resets ultimately performed the same task.. And if not, what's the difference?

 
 
Posted by joey1910 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

QuickLaunch has a reset option also

edit: didn't see poster above, my bad

 
 
Posted by danageplan Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I only skimmed through the article but I didn't see you mention clearing the event log, some people do battery pulls way too often just because their berry slows down, you can just open the event log and clear it to free up application space and get your berry back up to speed. To do this from your home screen: while holding your alt button press lg lg. This is very easy to remember just thing alt log log. Once you open the event log press the menu button then select clear log.

 
 
Posted by stoneland Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

The Event Log takes up a negligible amount of space on your BlackBerry, I heard. Clearing it won't affect memory space drastically.

 
 
Posted by danageplan Monday, Nov 22, 2010 545 days ago

It's how memory is being used, just try clearing your event log next time you have a issue,trust me you will.

 
 
Posted by amazinglygraceless Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

A double soft reset accomplishes nothing more than a soft reset. You are just doing two of them in a row.

 
 
Posted by Nesquik Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

but doesnt 1 + 1 always equal 3? haha people amaze me.

+1

 
 
Posted by andrew.yeung Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

yesterday while i was typing on bbm my 9780 all of a sudden went white screen and said ERROR 303 RESET.
does anyone know how or why that would have happened?
thanks

 
 
Posted by TheEdge Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Uh oh...

 
 
Posted by whozethere Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

My Bold 9000 requires 6-8 battery pulls a day. Lucky to be able to reboot by the key method. It's insane. I thought BlackBerrys were the best device ever when I bought my phone. Since 5.0 on at&t, it barely functions due to the memory leaks. Considering Torch is already down to $99, I am thinking all BBs have problems.

 
 
Posted by ajamu06 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

But the 9000 was not intended for really using a lot of apps on it. The memory is really low at only 128, so it bogs the phone down to put apps on it. I just ordered the Torch for free, actually. They are lowering the price because they want to sell the phones and boost numbers, not due to a problematic phone. Plus manufacturers always have sales for the holidays. To be honest, it's hard to make anything that small that does so much that has no problems. All smart phones have their issues.

 
 
Posted by whozethere Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 546 days ago

That answer makes as much sense as the iPhone 4 was dropping calls because people were holding their phone wrong. When I bought my 9000, it was the top of the line and it was meant to handle apps. It was handling apps, albeit with a shorter than desired memory, but programs like quickpull and battery boost made it possible. From the very beginning, it would drop info out of Calendar and Contacts. Come OS 5.0 and it became a worthless piece of crap. Considering it has always came short of what it originally was intended for, I have trouble believing any BlackBerry functions as well as the droid or the iPhone.

 
 
Posted by biloski Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Well you dont have to do this with an iPhone!!

 
 
Posted by elche1988 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

LIES!!! I have both... Read my other post...

 
 
Posted by ChuckH0308 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Yes you do and it's actually worse because when it boots up you have to hook it up to (sh)iTunes and re-sync it or nothing works. Or at least that's how ours works...

Last time it had to be rebooted it was because it stopped charging, BTW.

 
 
Posted by shaleem Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

All you people that just enjoy whining and complaining need to get a life. Who cares if you're on Droid or iphone or two tin cans and a rope! Stop wasting everyone's time with your pissing and moaning!

 
 
Posted by ericlc2 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

You wasted my time bitching at them -_-

 
 
Posted by wyldemf Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

You are just as much of a loser as the rest of us registered here jackass. Get a life.

 
 
Posted by Edica Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

i'm a new bb user and i was wondering how to "reboot" my system after choosing not to reboot it in app world. thanks for this article!

 
 
Posted by quattrojames Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Just do a battery pull as listed above.

 
 
Posted by dalek Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I use Quick Launch for resetting and it works just fine.

 
 
Posted by onelowvoltage Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I have an Otterbox Defender case so I really don't like taking it all apart to do a battery pull. I've been doing the soft reset and things have been running pretty good. But I'm going to try to remember to use Quick Launch and see how that goes. I'm using that app all the time anyway.

 
 
Posted by B_O_B_1_2_3_4 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Had to do a couple of battery pulls when I first got my Torch with OS 6.0.246, but nothing in the last 6 weeks (knock on wood).

 
 
Posted by mcaples Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Is there an app on the iPhone to SIMULATE a battery DOOR??????

 
 
Posted by elche1988 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Hahahahahaha WIN!!! =P

 
 
Posted by wacky1980 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

as long as i can remember having a cellphone, i've had to pull that batt occasionally. with my curve, and then my tour, it's not really been something that bothered me. i don't see why people complain so much about such a trivial thing.

 
 
Posted by mkye86 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I would go weeks on my 9700 W/O a battery pull w/ OS5..

W/ OS6 I have to pull nightly.. I'm ready for a new leak.. good thing it boots up in like a minute so its not a big deal.. OS5 would take for ever. But it was a solid build..

 
 
Posted by DTritcakDST Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Use quickpull and set it to reboot every night at 4am works great

 
 
Posted by K_Daddy Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Considering how bad the battery life is. When I'm not plugged in while using my storm 2 the battery only last About three hours and I hafta change it. So the reboot is a mute point. I only wish it didn't take so long.

 
 
Posted by mapsonburt Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I'm VERY careful about what I put on my device and don't have this problem. When I put a new app on the device, I watch the memory useage before and after I start/stop it to ensure that its cleaning things up behind itself and then on a regular basis when running it.

I've had blackberry's since the old pager days and VERY infrequently have to do a memory pull - and then I can usually blame that on a specific application. My old Storm that I had for almost three years would go weeks without a pull and my new Torch (running the latest release of OS6) hasn't been shut down in weeks.

For the Apple/Android fans out there that claim this is a blackberry only problem... bs. I support both and there is nothing to lead me to believe that this is any more prevalent on their platforms. In fact with them, I'd suggest that the likelihood is higher due to the extremely high number of "junk" apps you can download.

 
 
Posted by mcg3745 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

THAT is amazing to me. Many sensitive electronics benefit from a complete power disconnect. Not being able to access/remove/replace a battery in a mobile phone is a joke! Having 2-3 day batt life and a spare I can pop in is FREEDOM!

 
 
Posted by ChuckH0308 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I hardly ever pull the battery. I think I've only had to do that maybe three times in the past 9 months. Overall, with the exception of maybe 6 times or so, all the reboots have been associated with app and OS updates or when I had to change the battery. Storm2 9550.

 
 
Posted by HTC_Droid_EvO Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Whats worse after you have to constantly pull the battery, you have a 10 min reboot time, or a spinning clock of death....lmae
:)

 
 
Posted by FunkyDog Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

One of those things that made me walk away from a BlackBerry. Wonder why RIM does not even bother to correct this problem. The constant battery pull is one thing. I use an Otterbox Defender and taking the battery out is simply annoying. And the 'hourglass of death' is something I can't take any more.

 
 
Posted by Brad360 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Have to say... The whole BB concept is great. Love the phone but I have the POS curve and have had nothing but problems. Daily sometimes the most of 3 times daily soft reboots and atleast 1 hard reboot. Sim not allowed comes up every couple hrs and AT&T doesnt understand why?? Its not operator error, its the operating system i believe. Not sure. Will be upgrading soon to the droid. Enough already!

 
 
Posted by doubledecker Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Enough already! Switch platforms, go ahead! Just read the problems b4 jumping to conclusions. Join the IPHONE forums and the Droid's! They all have their problems. Ask my wife and my son. They have each! Its actually funny, that at night around the dinner table, we all have our bitches about our phones. There are some features that I wouldnt mind on my9800, that her 4 and his x has. Just remember people! You have 30 days after purchasing your phone to decide wether your going to switch it or ditch it. Im not going to praise my berry or badmouth their phones. At the end of the day we all have managed to keep in touch with our friends and family. BTW if you guys come across the perfect platfowm feel free to spam the hell outa me. Until then, live and let live

 
 
Posted by elche1988 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

I agree.

 
 
Posted by sam81 Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Was the same thing as a battery pull. Live and learn I guess.

 
 
Posted by quattrojames Friday, Nov 19, 2010 548 days ago

Also has a phone reset option on it. Some of you guys get so angry at each other over what is a phone! Chill out a while. I don't get why people come on here to moan about BB's.... Surely if you've "moved away from BB's" you'd move away from a forum talking about them....?

 
 
Posted by gord888 Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 548 days ago

Just digging around on the Android forums, and their devices need the same attention to reboots as the bb's. The difference being that they have faster processors and more ram that hide the lagging symptoms (while sacrificing battery life).

Anyway, if you go read up on it, all platforms need reboots every now and again. Droid users range from twice a day, to once every 2 weeks. Not really something to bitch about considering how powerful these little handhelds are getting. My old Moto v635 needed reboots twice a day, and it was a dumb phone!

 
 
Posted by corymcnutt Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

Let's not forget the GREAT app, MeterBerry; an easy way to do a reboot!

 
 
Posted by pmcguyver Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

I have had this phone for almost a year and a half and cant wait to get rid of it.
This phone is a death trap. If there was ever an emergency and you needed to use it and the phone had low memory your screwed. especially when you have to reboot and wait. Rim should be worried about a law suit. lol

 
 
Posted by Nerazzurro Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

topic for those who arent to much into Blackberries..
And if u dont like the rebooting etc.. why come here and complain if u dont use a BB for urself?

 
 
Posted by HTC_Droid_EvO Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

Yea, its bad enough your messages start to delete, but then you cant even get a call through when the red light of death happens, if jason and freddy were after you...RIP sucker lol

:)

 
 
Posted by blackcaneaddict Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

not to do to much that would cause me to ever have to do a battey pull like not leaving to many apps running in the background and use a MB app to catch memory leaks. I guess its working cause I can't remember the last one I had to do.

 
 
Posted by blackmoe Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

I must have had an app running in the background for a couple of days because I thought my battery had suddenly died. It went from lasting a day and half to just half a day. Ever since I did a battery pull battery life is back to normal. I would add unexplained short battery life to the list of reasons to do a pull.

 
 
Posted by seaners Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

1: A "hard reset" typically refers to a complete wipe where you lose all data. Maybe the terminology is different in the BlackBerry world, but I myself wouldn't consider a battery pull to be a "hard reset".

2: Why would a battery pull have any more of an affect than other methods such as Alt + Shift + Del?

 
 
Posted by mitchsurp Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 547 days ago

I don't really have any problems. I use QuickLaunch & schedule a reset for 6am (a time I am not likely to be awake). Works VERY well. The phone gets a simulated battery pull every single day and the only thing I have to do is hit "OK" after the reset is done.

 
 
Posted by Fazermint Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 547 days ago

I've never done a battery pull on my Curve 8530. I do a soft reset rarely, but usually just after an app update.

 
 
Posted by Mystic Traveler Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 546 days ago

You neglected to mention that the application QuickLaunch allows you to manually reboot or to schedule a recurring reboot. I believe it simulates a hard reset, but it might technically be a soft reset. The progress bar shows after the reset. I've got mine set to reset every night in the middle of the night and only have to perform an actual battery pull if/when the BB (Storm 2, but also used this on my Storm 1) locks up. QuickLaunch is my number 1 MUST HAVE app. It also includes many other features that end up being sold as stand along apps such as tilt lock.

 
 
Posted by a.tafarroji Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 546 days ago

I don't have a problem with having to do hard resets. I love my BlackBerry because of it's business structure (no other phone offers it like a BB). The battery pulls USED to be a pain, but I installed QuickPull a long time ago, and set it to reset every morning at 3:50am. I am hardly ever awake at that time and the phone is in its charger. The phone resets and when morning comes, my phone is working like new. Pretty much, just set the phone to reset at a time that you are almost always asleep and have the phone charging.

 
 
Posted by Nesquik Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 546 days ago

Im just glad we HAVE a battery that we can pull out.. unlike some other phones.....

 
 
Posted by mzfluffy2345 Tuesday, Apr 03, 2012 48 days ago

Can someone help out a fluffy please
I have a blackberry 9650 and on the home screen of my bb the track pad works to go from left to right but it cant click and once i go in menu it doesnt move none at all and the call and end call buttons dont work or the one with the blackberry logo!! only the back space button works and i have done the battery pull more than i can count!!! PLEASE HELP!!