BlackBerry 10 will have at launch the features iPhone owners are still longing for the most

BlackBerry 10... going to have it all?!
By Kevin Michaluk on 6 Aug 2012 09:42 am EDT
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If you follow the news on all of our Mobile Nations websites, you'll know there has been a lot of exciting stuff going on the last couple of weeks. First, the WPCentral team got their hands on a pre-release copy of the Windows Phone 8 SDK. Since then, they have been going through it like crazy, getting a good look at what's under the hood, and maybe more importantly, what's not there. They asked their community what features are still missing from Windows Phone 8, and got a HUGE response.

And over at iMore, they've also been busy. Last week they broke the news to the world that Apple will announce and release the iPhone 5 in September.  I know, it's painful to think the new iPhone will be out on the market for months before BlackBerry 10 is available. What makes things a bit easier to take is the fact it seems the features iPhone owners are most wanting to come to the iPhone will be features that BlackBerry 10 have at launch. iMore followed WPCentral's lead and asked their community which missing features they want Apple to add most to iOS, and it seems the most frequently wanted features are ones to be found on BlackBerry:

  • Proper Bedside mode - not just some basic Do Not Disturb setting
  • A proper notification light - the iOS flashing pixel thing does not compete with the BB's LED
  • More intuitive / real multitasking - everybody agrees Apple's implementation of the iOS app switcher thing is lame
  • Better support for 3rd party apps to update data in the background - iOS keeps apps "open" in background, but not running after 10 minutes - you have to wait for them to "refresh" that data when you go back to them, vs. it just being there (lots of annoyance on this over at iMore as being one of the iPhone's biggest shortcomings)
  • An updated UI w/ gestures and no home button - iOS is getting stale in terms of overall appearance. And people are getting tired of having to press that home button. 
  • Snooze on calendar events - not just dismiss and view

Reading through the comments, it's clear there are a lot of former BlackBerry users over on iMore who have gone iPhone, as many of the requested features are things that BlackBerry has been doing in the standard BlackBerry OS for years. And some of them -- like the updated gesture-based UI -- is coming in BlackBerry 10 (it's already there on the PlayBook tablet).

Lately BlackBerry has been taking its beating for the areas where it lags the competition (the reason a next generation platform is being developed for BlackBerry), but an iOS user wishlist like this reminds us of all the things BlackBerry has been doing right for a long time now. It makes me even more excited for BlackBerry 10.

342 comments

gord888

hell yeah! who says no to cookies? :p

birdman_36

Those are not new features. And BB10 will offer them 1-2 quarters after iPhone 5 is released. By the time a new RIM device hits the market, many consumers will already own an iPhone 5 or Galaxy S3.

sk8er_tor

No one is saying they're new features. They're features being requested on the iMore site yet those same features are already on BBOS and will be on BB10.

mkye86

I honestly fear that all of the great features I have learned to love about BBOS will not make it on BB10.. Not right at launch anyway. Why isn't bedside mode on the Playbook, Why is the file browser so limited compared to BBOS? The ability to create folders within folders and hide folders within folders is an awesome feature that no other OS offers at this time. Having an app that locks away all of your pictures that you don't want others to see is very suspicious looking to me. But having them all hidden in a place where no one else but you can find them is truly a great feature. I find email on the BBOS to be superior to that of PlayBook OS. Granted the one on the playbook is pretty, but I really don't like it. The Universal Inbox for BB10 definitely looks more like BBOS. I did find out the other day that the PB can extract ZIP files with ease, which I though was really cool btw. I don't know if this is standard for iOS and Android. I have not tried doing that on another OS. BBOS can do it but only after downloading an application that does it for you..

I hope all the great key board short cuts will make it on the Full Qwerty BB10. There are so many great things that have been baked in to the BBOS over the years that I just can't find on other Operating Systems. I'll be honest, if some of these features among others that I really love about BBOS are not present on BB10. I will not be getting a new BB10 device.. I will settle for BB10 on my 64GB PlayBook, and stick with my 9900..

All I want is my 9900 full BBOS Experience with the ability to run the Apps my PlayBook runs. If RIM can get this right at launch. I will get the Full Qwerty BB10 off contract!

Extended: In response to some of the comments on here particularly to those of Michael L. The only thing I really see wrong with BBOS is the hour glassing and the fact that it does not run the Apps that the PlayBook does (to be honest now that I have the playbook I really don't have any issues with my 9900 it does everything I need it to REALLY WELL!) . Like I said above if RIM can immaculately incorporate all of the above in BB10. They have a winning chance of at least keeping all the loyal BB fans. Which continues to grow. But only if they do it right on launch! RIM is far from dead, but I agree they only have 1 chance and TH knows this as he has said it himself.

So with that said these are the Native Apps I want at BB10 Launch:

BB Wallet
BB Traffic
BB Travel
A Native G-Talk App
A Native FaceBook App not running in Air, I want it on the TAT UI. The one on the PlayBook sucks, I honestly like the one on BB7 much better.
BB Protect
Of Course BBM (I want this app to blow me away!!)
All of the above need to be developed in the Native TAT SDK of course.

crackcookie

Your post is strong and reminds me of my fave WWF game, WWF No Mercy for the N64. It as a polished game and was great, the only thing slowing it down, was the 64. It had limits and thus wasn't always as fast as it should be. A few years later, a 'sequel' was announced for the Gamecube. Everyone was excited, but the game was garbage.

Fans wanted to know, why didn't you just do what No Mercy did, and make it faster/prettier? They said with their new game engine, they had to work on things from the ground up, so a few years later the game was more polished, but never as good as No Mercy was.

Ala BB now, you see that in the PB. While there are some great features (does it even have an LED) you notice it is lacking in some small critically important things that we loved. iphone guys say BB lacked apps, we say, we don't need many apps, the phone works out the box as you want it to pretty much without a need for hacking and jailbreaking.

I hope they did take their time in BBX and it works just as good as OS7 but is faster, and with more improvements.

Michelle Haag

Off topic: Whenever I see WWF I automatically think Words With Friends, and I was a little confused at "WWF No Mercy". I thought there was a new version I hadn't heard of. :P

 Carry on. 

mkye86

LOL I Love the WWF Reference...

Zedi Master

Hey, don't forget UNIVERSAL SEARCH!

I walked into Best Buy the other day. I explained how I wasn't sold on the Android and iOS phones. Specifically the search.

He says (grabbing his Galaxy S) search is very easy.

So I lower the hammer.

I tell him I'm looking for something IN MY PHONE! Not on the Internet.

He then walked away with shame.

This feature must also be in BB10, assuming the underlying OS is as expansive as BBOS 7.

mnhockeycoach99

CONTRIBUTE!
CONTRIBUTE!!
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black.rhino

^Love this guy

I noticed windows phone users are also hoping for current BB features. My biggest wish list for the playbook are all bb phone features that RIM has withheld for some reason.

drjay868

What an awesome contribution to the site you've been preaching for! Thanks for making reading this blog and it's responses such a pleasant experience!
/sarcasm

mnhockeycoach99

NOTE TO DRJAY868 - This applies to all 50 comments you have posted to me.

1. What is hilarious is your post is no more of a contribution than mine was... and what is worse, you posted it multiple times over. POT -> MEET KETTLE

2. The purpose of my multiple posts to Birdman was because for almost a week, he went around on every article and would post "Contribute" on a handful of peoples posts. I was just giving him a solid dose of his own medicine... I apologize if it impacted you in any way, shape, or form.

birdman_36

You realize your repeated "contribute" comment is making you look like an ass, right?

mnhockeycoach99

Really? So what was your explanation for doing it to so many of us a couple weeks ago? Huh Mr. Hypocrite?

ianbordas

These are indeed MUST HAVE features for BB10. These are some of the reasons that made me jump from the 1st gen iPhone to BlackBerry believe it or not!!

Also, a great reminder why I left iOS early on - look how now iPhones will use a totally different pin connector!!?? That would seriously piss me off if I wanted the newest iPhone but had to throw out all my current i-accessories... poor iSheeps - WAKE UP!! You're being raped blind!! BB Rulez!!

KCXLT

Its the second time they have done it. The first was to change the charging pin or something. All our dock radios would no longer charge the ipod touch, it would still play the music.

123berryaddicted

Don't worry... Someone I'm sure will make an adapter - probably get rich off of it too - lol

BruvvaPete

Apple and others who make accessories for the iPhone will rake in the cash from the new pin set up. The lovers of all things Apple will indeed line up and gladly pay. Most are still sleeping.

RedPortiaOne

Cookie monster want cookie!!!

Seriously I am loving this Crackberry site. Its the most addictive thing next to You Tube.

I really think QNX is a better OS then IOS simply because its so stable. Hey they have it on the shuttle!!

I really would like to see QNX BB10 give all those arrogant turds at Apple a slap in the face by

1: Making BB10 have more features than IOS iPhone (which they said) and

2: Out doing them, and eventually outselling them. I hate the Apple arrogance these Apple heads have.

iPhone 5 is comming out months before BB10 but I dont look at this as a disadvantage. I look at it as BB10 programmers having an edge to tweak BB10 to make it even better than iPhone 5.

This was Nintendo's strategy and their new systems always came out after the competition. And they took that time to make their new systems always crush the competition, which they always did.
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Playbook, the one and only

birdman_36

Right, cause the Wii absolutely crushed the competition with its specs.

mnhockeycoach99

1. Just because a device isn't #1 in the market doesn't mean it was a failure.

2. You seem to despise RIM, so why are you here?

3. CONTRIBUTE!

Kishore Thaakur

Yes; Please 'CONTRIBUTE' guys!
See how all mnhockeycoach99's posts are so "CONTRIBUTING"! You guys ought to learn from him!!

mnhockeycoach99

1. What is hilarious is your post is no more of a contribution than mine was...POT -> MEET KETTLE

2. The purpose of my multiple posts to Birdman was because for almost a week, he went around on every article and would post "Contribute" on a handful of peoples posts. I was just giving him a solid dose of his own medicine...

RedPortiaOne

I'm talking about the 1980s and 1990s...the hey day of Nintendo. And also the gamecube. You want to study Nintendo business strategy, go way back before the wii. And mnhockeycoach is right about you.

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Playbook, the one and only

mnhockeycoach99

Wasn't talking to you. I would never thank you for anything except shutting up or deleting your CrackBerry account.

CONTRIBUTE!

JakeTheCat

No, the Wii did not crush the competition with its specs it crushed the competition with its features. It was Nintendo's ability to size up the market and adapt that has allowed the Wii to far outsell both XBox360 and PS3. (Yes it has - look it up.)

And guess what? Apple did the same thing with th iPhone 4S. It did not have a hardware advantage versus competing phones available at the time it was announced nor did it have a lower price to compensate for its lack of state of the art hardware and yet it has still managed to tally phenomenal sales.

It looks like RIM could be positioning itself to do the same. I'm not saying it will, just that it could. Based on just the two examples above it is reasonable to entertain the possibility that a tech company could get things just right and take a big leap in market share. In fact, based on the history of technological innovation it would be unreasonable to think otherwise (whether it is RIM or someone else, who is to say?) The point is, what tech company's hot product has resulted in perpetual market leadership? It is only inevitable that market share will shift over the next few years.

martinjdub

Just bring BlackBerry back on steroids (done) then do 75% of what every iClone is dying to have. Mission complete.

I know a lot of people who are tired of iOS and want an alternative to 'Droid.

Who has the oldest OS come Q1?

#iOSasaurus

Blackberry_boffin

You made my day with #iOSasaurus!!!!
On the same vein what does that make BBOS? BigBangOS?
I love it here.

QuIcKsIlV3r

Did you even read the article martin?

It's nice to see that BB still has some great features that no other brand has and people still want.. makes me wonder if they are clamoring for those things, why they jumped ship in the first place?

EchuOkan1

I agree. These are things BlackBerry already does. This is another proof that the grass may look greener on the other side, but it really isn't. On the other hand, those may be the usual complainers that whine for anything and everything no, matter what a company does.

drjay868

Exactly. Give them an OS that has all the best of all 4 major OS's (I'm adding WP8 in here) and people on here will complain that Skype, NF, WWF (not the wrestling this time), Angry Birds, or whatever, isn't baked into the OS. Some people just like to complain.

Splange

The fact that they don't like everything about iOS doesn't mean they hate the platform. Likewise someone can think a platform is better than the alternatives without thinking it's perfect.

For example someone might rather live in New York City than Mississauga, Ontario. But that doesn't mean they can't wish that NYC had crime rates as low as Mississauga.

In short the cons of the iOS platform are annoying for them (mainly because they're so easy to fix), but not so much so that they want to give up the many, many pros of the platform.

birdman_36

BB 4? That's ancient history now

mnhockeycoach99

CONTRIBUTE!
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CONTRIBUTE!!!!!

drjay868

What an awesome contribution to the site you've been preaching for! Thanks for making reading this blog and it's responses such a pleasant experience!
/sarcasm

Connor83

Yeah I love my LED notifaction. And when I use the iPad I hate waiting for the refresh for apps.

advil_yum

Notifaction...love it! LOL
I'm sure that wasn't on purpose, but it's a great made up word for "notification satisfaction!"

Connor83

Notification*

Think about how that would of turned out on a iPhone. Lol.

mousii

They don't have snooze on calendar events? Wtf!

birdman_36

No doubt. I've had some sleepless nights over this.

mnhockeycoach99

Why are you hear crApple boy? Buzz off birdbrain. iMore is calling. CONTRIBUTE!

drjay868

What an awesome contribution to the site you've been preaching for! Thanks for making reading this blog and it's responses such a pleasant experience!
/sarcasm

JakeTheCat

Apple is very selective (cheap?) when it comes to licensing features for which it doesn't have patents - hence the limited functionality for iPhone users and very high profit margins for Apple. In this example Apple does not hold the patent for "Snooze support for event reminders" (US7836400) nor does it hold the patent to "Dismiss all event reminders" (US7385875) which are both held by... wait for it... Research In Motion.

Apple's unwillingness to pay royalties may change if that was merely a reflection of Jobs' ego refusing to acknowledge that someone else already came up with a better solution than he could.

Of course BlackBerry users know how handy these features are but if iPhone users clue into what they are missing and decide they want this functionality enough for Apple to add it then RIM would profit from every iPhone sold. (Apple would have to pay RIM in order to use its patent. And in that case Apple's cost would go up and its amazingly high margins would start to deteriorate). The ability to "snooze" an iPhone is just one of the things I am looking for that will signal the beginning of the end for Apple's fortunes.

KOOLWATER

Which is why BB10 needs to come on!!!!!!! It's primed to do well..... If ever released. :-(

bradfordjohnson

While I agree with you Kevin...we have no idea what's coming with the new iPhone this year and unfortunately BB10 won't be out until after that...let's hope Blackberry stays ahead of the curve.

firsttimecaller

at minimum I hope BB10 is ahead of the Curve.
;)

birdman_36

iOS6 is coming with the new iPhone

birdman_36

Just as BlackBerry 7 = BlackBerry 6.5

mnhockeycoach99

CONTRIBUTE!
CONTRIBUTE!!
CONTRIBUTE!!!
CONTRIBUTE!!!!
CONTRIBUTE!!!!!

drjay868

What an awesome contribution to the site you've been preaching for! Thanks for making reading this blog and it's responses such a pleasant experience!
/sarcasm

pick1eberry

10 is better than 6 EVERY time...:-)

jr40505

Would you rather have 10 pimples on your ass or 6?

birdman_36

Or 10 warts on your pp?

drjay868

What an awesome contribution to the site you've been preaching for! Thanks for making reading this blog and it's responses such a pleasant experience!
/sarcasm

joski

Ew I can't believe you did this to every motherfucking post it's actually awkward and gross at how lame that "sarcasm" is. Jesus christ.

RedPortiaOne

And at maximum I want to see it CRUSH iPhone
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Ben1232

I wonder if just this will sway the iphone clan.

....Ok I've wondered & no I doubt it.

BeBold !

sklotz2000

I'm sticking with BB10 regardless. I can't say it enough... NOTHING ELSE COMPARES TO BB!

sidds18

Me too! Reagrdless....BB for Life.

GTiLeo

Just goes to show you how well the UI is layed out in the BBOS and that people leaving is just for the fancy bling features that the iPhone has. Mycousin was trying to argue with me that RIMs problem is a lack of a product and that apple is better shes comparing her old curve 8900 with her iPhone 4s and commented that now she doesnt have tosee the little clock as she waited to load. While the 8900 is a device that was released in 2008 when RIM was in its prime and the iPhone was a glitchy hunk of silicon and solder and thats what most iPhone users do. Compare pasted dated BBs to their brand new modern iPhones

blackguy07

I deal with that on a regular basis seeing that I sell phones for a living. Customers walk in with busted up old curves complaining about blackberry as a whole and comparing new devices like said iphone to 5 year old curves...

shemaree09

yes! thats the most annoying thing. 9 times out of 10, people who bash Blackberry left from their OS 4 or 5 phone with the stupid trackball.

birdman_36

I sell the products too and there's not many devices with a trackball in the wild. Many iConverts owned a BB with a trackpad. But yeah, I see your point.

drjay868

What an awesome contribution to the site you've been preaching for! Thanks for making reading this blog and it's responses such a pleasant experience!
/sarcasm

zensen

can someone show me that flashing pixel thing for iOS. sounds so lame haha.

JCangoku

Blackberry is far from dead... but instead of comparing to an old OS like iphone's (we know for long now that BB OS is high above ios), we should compare to the newest ones - android 4 and windows 8 - and see what BB10 can do best than them.

JCangoku

of course i'll stay BB for ever, except if one can prove to me something is better...

xandermac

I always wondered what I was longing for on my iPhone, now I know.

SurrealCivic

Let's not forget some other items that will launch with BlackBerry 10:

Integration of QWERTY keyboard with a touch/gestures based UI
On Screen Keyboard showcased at BB World, but the flow with the rest of the UI not shown yet. This will be the same with the physical QWERTY where it will blend with the screen and provide the user an experience never seen before.

Integration of Nuance's voice recognition technology, which also powers Siri, but is greatly expanded on BlackBerry 10 where device walks you through scheduling an appointment, scheduling a meeting with contacts, adding to calendar. It will compose an e-mail, tweet, instant message. All through voice commands and all using Nuance's technology.

BlackBerry Messenger integrated with Voice Chat.

shemaree09

This is exactly why BB10 should have been released BEFORE the iPhone 5. OMG, who is behind RIM's marketing!?!?. They consistently drop the ball each the time, smh.

They need to cease production on the Playbook 4G., 10" Playbook, and all these cheap Curves and put out the BB10 phone NOW!! Nobody is gonna buy a Playbook until there is more app support..

Do whatever it takes to put it out ASAP. Once the iPhone 5 drops its over. In 2013 most people will already be under contract with their iPhone 5 and wont buy a Blackberry!

HabsSuck

Read very carefully, majority buy their phones when their contact expires. RIM will miss out on those with September or earlier but those with November or December expires can opt for BB10 in January.

shemaree09

doubt it. why would they opt for something with no real release date? Your typical consumer is not gonna wait around for the unknown. They are gonna get an iPhone or whatever new Android is out. Im a RIM supporter, but thinking logically and realistically, Blackberry dropped the ball on this one.

Berry-the-Black_Trollsbane

I and along with 4 of my friends have contracts that expire from september to January. 3 of those friends have iPhone4s and they said they would wait before jumping on the iPhone5 ship (Antenna gate really pissed them off). 2 of them have PlayBooks and like them enough to wait for more news on BB10...

Not everyone is the same, I'm def. waiting for BB10 since my 9800 is a workhorse of a phone: this thing has been beatten more than the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Habs combined! ;)

And it still works perfectly!

birdman_36

The Leafs and Habs get beaten constantly but they still don't work.

BruvvaPete

Marketing is one thing. Releasing brand new hardware with a revolutionary OS with new form and functionality before its ready should not happen. Too often RIM has release things that were as half baked as Birdman, Perjade, or Michael L.

birdman_36

Looks like you're wishing for BlackBerry's demise Pete.

mnhockeycoach99

1. Brush up on your reading comprehension

2. CONTRIBUTE!!

--TommesJay--

...that's going through the web is this one. Consumers contracts are expiring all over the year, man! Each day! It's fucking irrelevant when BB10 launches and when thinking of the iPhone it's better to launch after it. Whoever considers buying an iPhone will wait for the new one before he makes his decision. So you better launch after the iPhone, because A the BlackBerry is months newer then and B the public interest and noise surrounding the new iPhone is gone by then. So the BB10 phone will launch at least, after the SGS3, Android 4.1, WP8 and the iPhone 6. It'll be the newest device with the newest software and will gain full attention at launch. And there will always be way enough people whose contracts expire. Just one more thing: RIMs polishing BB10 and will release it ASAP. They got their teams working on it and it wouldn't make any sense to cease any other projects in order to throw more employees at the BB10 development. That would make things more complicated (for the teams already working on it for years), less effective, less efficient. I bet in THAT case the BB10 launch would be delayed even further than getting it out earlier.

spoonman9696

What bearing does this have? Once my contract runs out, it switches from month to month which means I can sign my contract renewal whenever I want. So what if I have to wait a couple more months till bb10 comes out? I love my 9780 and i'm in no rush to make an uneducated decision. All those people who just automaticlly renew right away with the phones available have already made up their minds and are ignorant to what will be coming out soon thereafter.

spoonman9696

What bearing does this have? Once my contract runs out, it switches from month to month which means I can sign my contract renewal whenever I want. So what if I have to wait a couple more months till bb10 comes out? I love my 9780 and i'm in no rush to make an uneducated decision. All those people who just automaticlly renew right away with the phones available have already made up their minds and are ignorant to what will be coming out soon thereafter.

Perjade

Even if the new BB 10 will be like "the greatest thing since sliced bread ", without important apps like Skype, Netflix... Blackberry 10 is more or less DOA !:(

HabsSuck

Netflix important app, yeah right. Who watches movies on a 4 inch screen?

shemaree09

actually tons of people.

and its really not about that. a lot of people would like to have the option. Doesn't matter if they're really gonna use it often.

but in 2012, Skype(or some similar app) really should be standard on anything that's considered a smartphone.

BruvvaPete

Standard. I know not one person with and iPhone or Droid that uses NetFlix or Skype. It's the vocal minority who keep preaching that Netflix and Skype are a must.

CarBob

I think the features on BB10 that Kevin has told us about will surpass anything that Apple or Samsung have, or will have, on their phones!!

BLACKBERRY FOR LIFE

birdman_36

You don't get out much, do you?

mnhockeycoach99

POT -> MEET KETTLE

CONTRIBUTE!

w0lfgang

The features iPhone users want? Oh great...so your saying the BB10 phones will be shaped like Steve Jobs' dong? Well I certainly don't want one now, though I'm sure the iPhone users will be quite excited every time they get to hold the phone up to their face.

Kevin Michaluk

Umm... that's not what I'm saying at all.... There's no way you actually read my post if you left this comment. It makes no sense. Just saying. 

birdman_36

I can't believe you entertained the thought of replying to that hick comment Kevin.

Jonathan-Archer

Still I have little confidence BB10 will be ahead when compared to the Iphone 5. These little issues mentioned above won't win anyone over I fear.

GTiLeo

I have a theory. Steve jobs is dead, the real brains behind apple as far as an innovative mind, the death of him is the death of innovation, the fact that since apple is now bringing a bridge feature that RIM has used and taken to new levels since the playbook was released with updateds that will allow sms bridging and all being done on past outdated bluetooth versions. With BB 10 it will be differenct and even more improved.

Also the fact that they are using the same UI with enhancements to make them more comparable to features already offered on other devices.

Apples creativity is gone weather the sheep believe it or not. They will eventually stop being so nieve and will stop kneeling before apples feet

joski

While I hate Apple, you're giving Steve Jobs too much credit.

EVERYONE GIVES STEVE JOBS TOO MUCH CREDIT!

Innovation?!?!

More like shit-on-your-dick-with-marketingnovation.

Camfella

Kevin is just trolling, anything for traffic I guess!

birdman_36

The writer of the article is trolling? There's a new one.

mnhockeycoach99

Nope..he isn't trolling, you are.

CONTRIBUTE!

birdman_36

Better than stalking, like you're doing.

mnhockeycoach99

Geez.. you don't like it do you Birdman? But it was okay for you to do, right?

Jealous1snv

After 5 versions of IOS you still cant include an attachment from within the mail app. something the most basic of bb and androids can do. So much for the most advance operating system. For the record I do own an ipad 2 as well as an iphone along with my bold 9900. That just gets things done better. Apple has and will always be excellent at marketing, but that's about it. Unfortunately all the so called experts always choose to believe the hype, but thats the way of the world these days hype and style over substance.

CarBob

I have an iPhone 4 and the 'new' iPad, BUT I always come back to BlackBerry because of its many features, reliability, dependability, security, and the flashing LED light which alerts me when I get emails!

BlackBerrys are, and always will be, the best devices on the market.

GO RIM !

JakeTheCat

There is a good reason why Apple is very weak when it comes to email attachments; Apple is very selective (cheap?) when it comes to licensing features for which it doesn't have patents - hence the limited functionality for iPhone users and very high profit margins for Apple. As I noted above re: "Snooze support for event reminders" (US7836400) and "Dismiss all event reminders" (US7385875) which are both held by Research In Motion, Apple lacks meaningful email intellectual property; many of the parents are held by Microsoft, Intel, IBM, and - particularly as they relate to mobile devices - RIM.

Apple's unwillingness to pay royalties for basic important features may change if that was merely a reflection of Jobs' ego refusing to acknowledge that someone else already came up with a better solution than he could.

Of course BlackBerry users know how handy these features are but if iPhone users clue into what they are missing and decide they want this functionality enough for Apple to add it then RIM could profit from every iPhone sold. (Apple would have to pay RIM in order to use its patents. And in that case Apple's cost would go up and its amazingly high margins would start to deteriorate). The ability to add attachments on an iPhone in a manner that is on par with what you can do already on a BlackBerry is just one of the things I am looking for that will signal the beginning of the end for Apple's fortunes.

kelton

I'm going to have to get with it. I don't even know about these features on my BB! Not sure what bedside mode does.... and the calendar thing is news to me.

GTiLeo

Bedsde mode shuts off the radios at a set time so you dont get calls in the middle of the night

mooda

its highly more customizable than that. With the combined use of sound profiles you can control what notifications come through if the led comes on and more. very useful for those of us that are oncall but dont want to be woken by their drunk friends :)

jkomo001

thanks for the post kevin. I hope they don't do all the those things bb10 will have, that would be lamee. but it is interesting to see that we had it first, so hopefully we'll have it better! :)

w0lfgang

Yeah, ummm Kevin, wisecracks aren't meant to always make sense....just sayin'. I was making a dig at bandwagon jumpers....not your article, though the time spent to write it may have been better spent, oh, say twiddling your thumbs.
I did read the post, and the majority of what you list is ALREADY on BB7. Iphone users won't switch because they aren't interested in what is efficient, or secure, or fast ....they are the Kardashian's of the phone world....shallow slaves to what Apple commercials tell them is "hip" and popular with cute little animations....Apple's notifications and email were not designed with speed and efficiency in mind. The iPhone is an example of form before function, while, as you well know, the BlackBerry is function before form.
I couldn't possibly care less if ONE of them switches

bbkeystone

I've had a 9700, a 9800 and now a 9900. Loved the 9700 till it jumped down a sewer grate. The 9800 was good but a bit too heavy. The 9900 is awesome and I'm looking forward to the new BB10 phones.

What is enticing me in the direction of the iPhone is the fact that if a company is going to design an app but only pick one platform, they're far more likely to do it for Apple and if they make two, it'll be Android, not BB. The loss of functionality is what's keeping me from making the switch until the new BB10 phones come out, but I'd love it if there was a way to port apps from Android directly to it at the very least.

Fingers crossed.

birdman_36

You might want to cross your toes there too buddy...

mnhockeycoach99

You may want to take your only friend Michael L and head on over to cry more...er iMore.

CONTRIBUTE!

joshua_sx1

OK... until I have a BlackBerry phone running on BB10 OS in my hand with all those features, everything still a "fantasy"...

GTiLeo

They already run on BBs and have for years. Since os5

Hamp

Seems there are a lot *ahem* adults here that resort to name calling and childish behavior just to make a point or comment. How about trying to stay on topic for once, stop the ranting and "who's better" cliche' and just offer your opinion without coming off as trying to be superior. It's called a commodity, get a dictionary, read and become more understanding rather than this:

If the only way you can talk or write is in slang, then:

It gives off the impression that you have no idea how to spell anything correctly.
It gives off the impression that you’re lazy.
It gives off the impression that your intelligence is no more advanced than that of a nine-year-old child....Nobody wants to appear to be an uneducated, lazy child-like person.

By the way, a commodity is something that is marketed to satisfy wants and needs, so ask yourself..are you the only person the market caters to? Until that happens, stop acting as though your ideology is law.

BruvvaPete

You just did the exact same thing you claim others are doing.

3Dee

Chut it your an douche lol, iphone is da beast (post made in irony, sorry, couldn't resist ;) trying to pick others up on spelling and grammar is (sadly) a losing battle my friend)

birdman_36

The grammer and intellegence levil of sum users are enuff to make a persen nautious,

mapsonburt

+1000K. Good job next.

mnhockeycoach99

My thoughts exactly. Every time I read a post of yours, I feel like I'm going to projectile vomit everywhere.

CONTRIBUTE!

BruvvaPete

I just blew chunks thinking of what a hideous creature you are. Troll.

birdman_36

Pete calling coach a troll. You're bang on!

mnhockeycoach99

Actually, he was referring to you.. better brush up on those reading comprehension skills.. and then CONTRIBUTE!!

dtango

All these features are already on Blackberry yet no one is suddenly buying Blackberrys. Bad article.

randall2580

There is a term for this, it's called a Red Herring. As has been stated by another it interesting to note that many of these features have been in BB phones for a while yet comparing sales - do you think the lack of any/all of these are hurting iPhone sales much? The only thing that hurts iPhone sales so far - are new iPhones coming to the market.

I am sure Renee could write a counter article "Things already in iOS that BB owners are hoping for in BB10"? If he hasn't already.

birdman_36

Two of CrackBerry's sister sites ask their readers what they'd like to see in the next iteration of their operating system, while CrackBerry says "we already have those". Maybe it's time to poll your readers on what they'd like to see in BB10 instead of assuming it's perfect.

Michael L#CB

I am sure RIM pays crackberry for these surveys that is why I stopped answering them long ago...

BruvvaPete

Maybe you should have cancelled your CB account when you stopped responding to surveys. You're so vile.

mnhockeycoach99

CONTRIBUTE!
CONTRIBUTE!!
CONTRIBUTE!!!
CONTRIBUTE!!!!
CONTRIBUTE!!!!!

BerryRipe

@W0olgang, I understood your iphone-penis-jobs joke, it was effing funny.
@Michael L, can we please bask in the excitement of BB10 and do you really hate your life so much that you go out of your way to try and rip RIM a new one. Get a life my friend.

I just had to express that.

BB10 will bring an energy that no other os has or will ever bring. We BB folks will be the elite, the focused, the people that do.

BeBold

birdman_36

"BB10 will bring an energy that no other os has or will ever bring."

Is that factual or fictional?

birdman_36

Yeah coach...are you for real?

mnhockeycoach99

Your mom is for real.....

CONTRIBUTE!!

GolfnCPA

I am a faithful iPhone user, after converting from Blackberry two years ago when the 4 was released. I am anxiously awaiting the release of BB10 and the associated hardware and then will go to two phones.

Very excited to see what RIM is going to release. Nothing against the iPhone at all, I really find it to be productive and useful for my needs, but am always supportive of RIM and its pursuits.

len5

If the iPhone had the LED notification light on the front and it was customizable and multiple email account folders on the main screen I would probably switch to the iPhone. Since they don't I will probably stick with BB.

scrimp9890

My upgrade isn't available until BB10 is released. I've been wondering if iPhone would suit me more than BlackBerry. Being a BB addict for 7 or so years, and I knew the switch would always be hard. I know this phone, inside and out. Even got my husband to switch to it (he has the PlayBook, and loves the Bridge feature). I rely so much on that little notification light. I have a habit at leaving my phone on silent for whatever reason.

I will probably go with BB10.

Next question, will it be released in white, or will they pull an apple "it's new!!!! It's in white!" like they did with the *new* iPod Touch?

birdman_36

It's safe to say it will be released in white, but only after black drops.

Perjade

This guy " mnhockey...". whatever, is just too pathetic ! :(

mnhockeycoach99

Thanks bro. It isn't pathetic that Birdman is out here trolling.... or posting this same "contribute" comment on other articles.. or DrJay posting his same comment MULTIPLE times in response to mine, right?

drjay868

What an awesome contribution to the site you've been preaching for! Thanks for making reading this blog and it's responses such a pleasant experience!
/sarcasm

thecsman

I don't want to be negative but the first two have been in BB since the beginning of the smartphone era. =P

The last 4 are good features that BB people would appreciate, but it won't drive users from other platforms to drop everything and go get a BlackBerry.

Foreverup

Seriously Kevin you can't clean up the comment section!

I'm shocked IOS doesn't have a snooze feature of Calendar events. Seems like the most basic and useful feature to have for a calendar reminder.

Berry-the-Black_Trollsbane

+1

was surprised to learn that such a simple feature was missing

belfastdispatcher

Crackberry really needs to find a way to keep trolls off this site. Michael L shouldn't be able to post that profanity and should be banned instantly.

exfactor

Blackberry 10? What is that?

Michael L#CB

@exfactor: HAHAHAHA

Thanks for the good laugh. all these goons are starting to be boring..

DuexNoir

*Cringe* All this talk about BB10 reminds me just how painful waiting for it to debut really is...dang! I want BB10 in my hands right now. D:

~I am BlackBerry by choice~

birdman_36

Patience, young jedi. Only 7 months to go!

mange1984

Apple have been in this situation before and to be honest why is there certain people on here slagging it off its one of best devices on market blackberry bold 9900 battery life is terrible but does everythink and more than what is out in uk market apple is same everytime u get excited and then bam its dissapointing iphone 4s was no diff really few extra features and bit quicker underhood look at motorola they came rim is not dead never will be just all big companys go through bad stage people who slate and media don't help I'm very happy BB 4 LIFE :)

BruvvaPete

Please, for the love of God, learn how to use a comma or period in your posts. It's not that hard.

yeohda

It's a shame civility and decorum are lost on the Internet these days. It's even sadder that you come to a BlackBerry fansite and instead of enthusiasm or at least intelligent debate we are greeted with digitized-hooliganism. It's like going to a wedding and being interrupted by a drunk divorcee bent on spewing his negativity as loud as he can thinking he's funny. But he's not funny nor welcome. His opinion is rightfully his and he has the right to air it should he wish, but there is a time and a place...obviously absent from his mind or his manners. The party shall go on and the fans should be happy, albeit with a tinge of bitterness at a presently idiotic episode but soon to be relegated to a humorous anecdote in the back of our minds at how some people are so small and actually weren't worth the flicker of attention we foolishly granted them.

Now, back to the topic! It's both prideful and sad to me that many features requested by iMore's readers are presently available in BBs. Simple things I took for granted (attachments in email??!! Snooze in calendar events?!?!) others actively voice out in demand for. But it's also sad because first is speaks of RIM'S failure in marketing its products effectively but also because it highlights a key issue -the user experience versus functionality. We win in functionality but lose in user experience. Hopefully BB10 will change that for the better :)

mnhockeycoach99

Not enough +1's in the universe for this comment.

Toodeurep

This was an excellent post. Thanks!

BruvvaPete

Master Yeohda speaks words of wisdom.

birdman_36

Talking through your ass again Pete

drjay868

You had me at "It's a shame civility and decorum are lost on the Internet these days"

+1

07thking

You sir are brilliant! + 1

randall2580

Agreed this is an excellent post all around Yeohda

Hamp

Why are people responding to this? Stop responding and there is no audience.

sunsetberry

Just asked my iphone fanatics and they not even that hyped for iphone 5 ...they said same crap ...just gunna keep my iphone 4s ...can't wait for bb10 :)

Blackberry_boffin

Wow!
I didn't think an article about what a BlackBerry does better than some would draw such hysterical responses.

varunsain

BB10 is gonna make iphone look so ancient more than what it already is...

ryzack

Lol the time says 1337!!

shief

There is still a lot of people who could care less about some of these features. Just reading the title I knew this was going to be a flame war. Its crazy how there is talk about "cleaning up the forums" yet they post "articles" like this. But whatever makes you sleep at night. Hopefully bb10 actually sells (for Rims sake)

shief

and what flashing pixel? Can anyone explain that one?

Foreverup

On an iphone when you get a notification the whole screen flashes a bright white. Personally speaking it is annoying I want to throw my girlfriend's phone across the room when it goes off. Also it just happens when you first get a notification so if you miss it you will have to pick up the phone to check it. The system is no where near as convenient as BB, again personally speaking

BB_Bmore

Best article ever ...i got a lot of stuff i need to get done but cant stop reading these comments lmao wow calm down children!!

birdman_36

I know...coach's comments have reached a whole new level of immaturity.

mnhockeycoach99

POT -> MEET KETTLE.

But it was okay when you were doing it, right?

soogriff

Really loving the screenshots of the BB10 device. It's like a pocket Playbook but better. I can't wait.

07thking

I can't wait for BB10! In the mean time my 9900 + 64gb PB will get the job done and then some.

mnhockeycoach99

Mods must have came through here and cleaned up the troll garbage because there were almost 200 comments at one point (50+ of them were from Michael L with his little anti-RIM rants) and now there are only about 130.

Bobert_123

I no right!! God that guy just would not shut the heck up, I hope kevin or somebody deleted his account for good!

Toodeurep

I was eyeing a couple of user threads and they have "vanished" hmmmmm :)

mnhockeycoach99

It is too bad that Birdbrain didn't banned too.

birdman_36

Likewise. I still love you though.

mnhockeycoach99

1. The feeling isn't mutual.

2. Take your own advice and CONTRIBUTE!

bmantz65

The vast majority of people are comfortable with their iPhones or Androids. BB10 is an unknown to lots of people. Most people are afraid of change or the unknown. Sure, people on Crackberry will use BB10 but the real market is the rest of the general public. People won't switch to BB10 unless one or more of these are true:

A) Word of mouth / demos from friends/colleagues/family etc.
"I know you have an iPhone, but check out my new Blackberry. It is totally redsigned" iPhone user plays with the BB10 and loves it. "This is awesome, way better than my iPhone! I will check it out when my contract is up." (or, "I need it now") I think this happened when Executive A had a BB 8830 and saw his friend (Executive B) with a new iPhone. Executive A tried out the iPhone and felt embarrassed or jealous. Executive A puts a request in for an iPhone, the IT Department bends over backwards to get him one, and soon every other executive in the company wants one. It makes them feel like they belong.

B) Contract is up and want something different. See "A)"

C) Hardcore Blackberry fan, anti-Apple/Google, tech enthusiast, someone who wants to standout, etc

D) Lots of mainstream apps/apps general public want i.e most popular and those that are already on Android and iPhone and hopefully better. Yeah, you can debate all day about if Netflix or Skype are needed but tons of people critical to the success of the platform uses and wants those apps. I know I would use a Netflix app a lot. It would allow me to get an increased value of my $8 a month subscription to Netflix.

birdman_36

A) That hasn't happened to anyone for a very long time, considering the Bold 9900 was released a year ago.

B) iPhone users don't want something different. They have the highest user satisfaction rate in the industry.

C) Someone who wants to stand out will flaunt a Windows Phone.

D) Re: Netflix, I know what you're talking about there. I'm constantly looking get increased value for the $0.25 a day I spend on it.

--TommesJay--

F) It's outstanding like nothing ever before

And that's BB10. BOUGHT.

w0lfgang

I agree....I am REALLY disappointed with RIMM's marketing, though it was nice to see Bolt give a BBM reference in an interview. Since many professional reviews, and personal experiences, tout how screaming fast the Bold is, (and it is) I have no idea why RIMM is not on the phone NOW with Bolt and a endorsement deal. Fastest man + fastest phone? Duh...no brainer. But I guess I'm not as smart as the marketing department at RIMM who STILL have done pretty much two things: (1) Jack and (2) $hit.
I think a fundamental mistake that BB is making in the US, and perhaps it is because they may not really understand an American consumer, is that the actual QUALITY of the product has little to do with anything. It is the PERCEPTION of quality, and more than anything, the "cool" factor. Six years ago Blackberry's were what everyone had to have....why? Because everyone who was anyone had them. Period. Not because they were the best, or most efficient. Never..EVER... underestimate the American public's penchant for herd mentality. I mean, look at our education scores....you really think we're a country of critical thinkers?
And if you don't think Apple isn't a master of this, read on:

http://www.businessinsider.com/apples-biggest-marketing-secret-just-got-...

BruvvaPete

Your post is hilarious and unfortunately bang on.

birdman_36

RIM's people are not in touch with Bolt's people because it is a statutory holiday in Canada today.

BruvvaPete

You're such a maroon. CONTRIBUTE!

birdman_36

You find it funny when your friend Pete insults you?

mnhockeycoach99

He was actually insulting you.. but nice try.

CONTRIBUTE!!

dtango

BB10 the phantom OS!
Coming early 2012 guys!
Coming Q4 2012 guys!
Coming early 2013 guys!.........maybe

I wonder how the response will be if they all start constantly bricking like the "flagship" 9900..

birdman_36

Yours keeps bricking? Call RIM and get a replacement. Just kidding...they would never do that.

birdman_36

Have you ever dealt with RIM's tech support?

mnhockeycoach99

Yes. Once.. they were awesome.

CONTRIBUTE!!

mnhockeycoach99

Hey Dales... You sound like you need a tissue.

BruvvaPete

(I think he needs a bib)

birdman_36

(I think Pete needs an enema)

mnhockeycoach99

We all think you need to CONTRIBUTE!

--TommesJay--

BB10 the phantom OS of rumors!

1. Rumored to come early 2012
2. Rumored and confirmed to come late 2012
3. Confirmation of delay to Jan 2013

Whats the problem? I remember Mike L saying "We won't see a QNX-powered BlackBerry smartphone until 2013" - that was in late 2010/early 2011, when the PlayBook was on the way. Well, Mike was right.

Android Market for QNX

The BlackBerry does do a lot of things well, some much better than other phones. The problem is that those other phones are improving rapidly in areas BlackBerry used to dominate, like security, messaging, e-mail. I do think BlackBerry 10 phones will be just as good as any other phone on the market. But it is just one phone in a market littered with competition.

DaMaRa1109

Having vzw in the US I've owned an iphone 4s, galaxy nexus, and a 9930.
All considered flagship devices in the recent past/currently and lemme tell u ...minus games the 9930 competes on all levels including battery ( esspecially since the lastest OS update ) .... So add the keyboard which I use wayyyyyyyy more than angry birds and u have the phone I'm currently using. 9 9 3 0

dantesinclair11

Kevin, is there any way to create an ignore box so that I don't have to read users comments. I'm all for Michael having a right to type whatever he wants. I just want the right to ignore him so his comments don't fill out every conversation.

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The difficult, we do immediately. The impossible takes a little while longer.

BruvvaPete

This just may be the best comment I've heard all day. So tired of trolls...

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