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Posted by Johnmar3 Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Yay BIS 3.0

 
 
Posted by jwhelan Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

I am looking forward to the 2 way sync in gmail, But I would give firstborn for webkit+flash!

 
 
Posted by Barredbard Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Not the firstborn??!!! He's your heir. I do have a pet guinea pig...

 
 
Posted by lcohen999 Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Will my gmail show up in my messages folder as well.

If I archive messages, will they all reappear at random?

If not, then sign me up!

 
 
Posted by Valgi Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

I'm more excited for the Webkit plus Flash than I am for BIS 3.0.

 
 
Posted by 07thking Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Although I am happy and do look forward to BIS 3.0, webkit is what has me at the edge of my seat, especially with this 9550.

 
 
Posted by Barredbard Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Certainly seems a bit like a storm in a teacup. But useful information, nonetheless.

 
 
Posted by rts3k Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

I too cannot wait for better releases/features but the 2 way sync will be nice. I am ready for this rollout if it happens next week

 
 
Posted by jmayniac Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

It will pretty much go unnoticed by most users.

 
 
Posted by Skyeclad Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Who cares? RIM is barely playing catch-up these days much less leading. We needed a decent browser last year, not next year.

 
 
Posted by jcastilloalonso Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Any possibility of any "hidden" new features? Could BIS 3.0 add bigger attachments? (Avoid message truncated due to size, or the 2.9MB download limit for example)

 
 
Posted by 07thking Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

I very much hope so.

 
 
Posted by jope28 Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Ditto @jcastilloalonso

 
 
Posted by fayek Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

quick question as i am not really educated in the ways of BIS, will i need to make some sort of update when it comes out or will everything just change all of a sudden?

 
 
Posted by maxknux Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Every time a article about BIS some guy asks about it. I even did not know about it but its so easy to look it up. Here let me do that for you.
http://tinyurl.com/yg6xgcq

Also Check out the BlackBerry 101 on this site.
http://crackberry.com/blackberry-101-how-lecture-series

Lecture 2: BES and BIS: What is the difference?
http://crackberry.com/blackberry-101-lecture-2-bes-and-bis-whats-differe...

 
 
Posted by lachmi Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

I would rather shorter delay of message receiving. Sometimes I get mail in BB after 10 minutes. And that sucks... :-(

 
 
Posted by Yandar Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

That is really slow for a berry. I can send an email from my pc to my berry using a standard web mail address and it arrives in less than 5 seconds. Has it always been like that for you?

 
 
Posted by dkonigs Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Unless you use an Email provider that RIM has some special arrangement with, BIS means "we poll your INBOX once every 10-15 minutes, and forward new messages to your device". Nothing more, nothing less.

As a strong user of IMAP and server-side filtering, I found this approach to be completely unacceptable to my needs. For my personal e-mail, push-notification turned out to be a lot less important than the ability to explicitly check more than just the INBOX.

So one thing I did was created a BIS-only Email account, to which I forward special messages like Facebook notifications.

The other thing I did was devote way too much of my free time to starting the LogicMail project, so I'd have an independent on-device Email client that could connect directly to my mail server. (and to this day, I'm amazed at how many people find it useful, especially in places where BIS is too expensive of unsuitable for whatever reason.)

 
 
Posted by jcastilloalonso Friday, Feb 26, 2010 815 days ago

My personal server has IMAP support and it's push not pulled. It all depends on your provider and if they support IMAP IDLE which BIS supports. Hence I do have push in all my accounts. No need for a special arrangement.

 
 
Posted by lachmi Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Well, for example Gmail is perfect. E-mail sent to Gmail is in BB immediately, but e-mail sent to my work inbox is sometimes delivered to my BB after 5-15 minutes...

 
 
Posted by papped Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

2 way read sync is good.

 
 
Posted by nextgenius Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

The sooner the better!!

 
 
Posted by Roscopcoletrain Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Looking forward to it. Upgrades usually = improvements. Thats always a plus.

As for the browser, blah blah blah. We all want it. And we know its coming. But development shouldnt stop in other areas just because of it.

 
 
Posted by beegore Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Gosh it always seems like forever for these things to roll out. I can't wait any longer. ;)

 
 
Posted by beegore Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Gosh it always seems like forever for these things to roll out. I can't wait any longer. ;)

 
 
Posted by beegore Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

I just thought I would agree with Skyclad. The apple world's interface is destroying ours. We need to get not only with the times, but ahead of the times. We need options that will blow our minds, and not our phones.

 
 
Posted by webmastir Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

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Posted by jayxpx Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

The Droid is terrible. The apps suck and the phone is far too complicated for the common user. The iphone is far superior to any other phone at this time but verizon doesnt offer it. I have the storm and am very pleased with it after the 5.0 upgrade

 
 
Posted by glinc Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

terrible and complicated for common user?? The interface, OS and UI is as friendly and easy as it can be. I really enjoyed the phone but I switched back to blackberry because I missed BBM and Direct-Push Email but other than those 2 features, the Android OS is better than the iphone OS imo.

 
 
Posted by CT 420 Alias Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Or OS 6.0. Either one would be fine. And if you wouldn't mind dropping it sometime tonight.

Thanks in advance for your expected cooperation.

Your friend CT.

 
 
Posted by maxknux Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

The only benefit that I can think of is the non - Google Gmail stuff.

I am a Yahoo Mail user and so far I had great email experience and the syncing of read and unread works great. I just wish there was a way to sync my calendar and contacts over the air.

I do use gmail for the google voice and any other Google service and also good place as a spam email just to see what funny text ads google thinks I should have.

 
 
Posted by Stang68 Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

It says updated browser support. Does that mean we'll be getting that new type of data transport with it? I forgot what it specifically is but it makes the browser faster.

 
 
Posted by kstagg Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

For crying out loud Blackberry - show me the Flash! Now that is something to get excited about. If "that other group in cupertino" doesn't want Adobe - fine by me.

Think of all the slick apps we could upload to our phones and how much faster the approval process would be to bring content to our devices.

...

And where are all the new devices? Thought for sure at least one new model would appear in Barcelona but was a little disappointed. Still loving the 8520. But with Droid and then MS coming out with Windows 7 Mobile coming around the late Fall this year, it is going to be a heck of a battle for those consumer dollars. Especially with MS.

Think about it. I know we can open up Office docs on our devices and they're extremely business-friendly and all, but hell - MS freaking MAKES the danged software for crying out loud. If you were in the market for a new phone around the time the new MS phones came out - wouldn't you give them some serious thought?

The RIM OS needs a serious overhaul.

 
 
Posted by NEPABBuser Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

So NO calendar sync built in to BIS 3.0? Google sync was working fine but stopped yesterday for me...I was hoping it was because of BIS 3.0

 
 
Posted by mi_canuck Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

 
 
Posted by decypher44 Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

You gotta figure that BB is feeling some pressure to release a free Nav app.

 
 
Posted by TJSwan7899 Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

Where's the link 2 set this up @?

 
 
Posted by bengraham Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

But will the Google Calendar Sync in BIS 3.1 work with Google Apps accounts? I hope so because the google sync plugin is absolute garbage, it most of the time it doesn't work

 
 
Posted by Arielnyc2009 Thursday, Feb 25, 2010 815 days ago

I am currently using the Boost Mobile 8330, I was wondering if BIS 3.0 will be carrier dependent? That two way gmail sync sounds really nice!

 
 
Posted by Guatiao Saturday, Feb 27, 2010 813 days ago

How will we all know if/ when our carrier has implemented BIS 3.0-3.1??????

 
 
Posted by jwcrabtree Saturday, Feb 27, 2010 813 days ago

What RIM really needs to do is get with todays offerings. BIS with almost all the options BES has (no security policies or remote wipe for BIS users would be a hit!!) and make it a data only requirement. If your business has a BES server you get the additional things but data plans cost the same for BIS and BES users. There is no difference in the use of data and we already have to buy CAL's for the BES and the BES server...No other smart phone has these requirements. Make BIS able to sync with OWA nativly and faster and the y would probably pick up more users.

 
 
Posted by MoonHowler2009 Friday, Mar 19, 2010 793 days ago

I suppose I won't be able to get email or use the Web all day Sunday. I remember last year's BIS upgrade in April. What a nightmare! I ended up having to resend my service books.