*UPDATE* RIM STATEMENT - RIM has not yet received a copy of the legal complaint described in Basis International’s press release, but we do not believe the marks are
confusing, particularly since our respective companies are in different lines of business.
Looks like RIM either forgot to check the current trademarks or just simply ignored the fact that BBX -- the new name for their upcoming OS for tablets and phones -- was already a registered trademark of a company called Basis International. Shortly after hearing the announcement, lawyers for BASIS filed legal actions against Research In Motion.
"BASIS Chairman and CEO, Nico Spence, said, “We have thousands of product licenses installed worldwide with the ‘BBX’ prefix that run on Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, and other proprietary UNIX OSs from IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and SUN, with mobile clients running Apple iOS, Google Android, and Windows Mobile. We are fielding numerous customer inquiries voicing their confusion about the RIM announcement.”
Not exactly the first time such a case has arisen. Apple ran into issues with Cisco back when the iPhone was announced and settled up eventually. What it really breaks down to for the most part is just some rich people exchanging money for the right to go ahead and use a name.
Oddly enough, the two companies are related as noted by BASIS Chairman and CEO, Nico Spence stating “Ironically, BASIS’ BBx may aid RIM in its quest to grab a share of the application market for mobile devices in that any application created with BASIS’ BBx for the Android or iOS mobile devices will also run on BlackBerry products.”
Source: Business Wire; via: CrackBerry Forums
tekware Oct 19, 2011 at 9:57 pm
I hate to say I told you so...
Hwycop Oct 19, 2011 at 10:05 pm
It could be worse if they went with BBQ, think of all those lawsuits.
ekafara Oct 19, 2011 at 10:04 pm
I'm waiting for the media to blow this out of proportion.
PadreTremtU Oct 19, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Yes,unfortunately.
"All is for the best in the best of possible worlds." ... Love Playbook.... and Storm2 (sorry). Getting a 9860 ... or will wait for QNX?
nls Oct 20, 2011 at 2:17 am
I'm in the same situation.
I think that in the meantime I will go for a curve touch 9380, cheaper device
semperfi45 Oct 20, 2011 at 11:48 am
I'm with you on this one...
Thomasrox3 Oct 19, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Le Sigh...
jrmtl Oct 19, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I smell Mike L. calling whomever at Basis and cutting a cheque soon...
Hwycop Oct 19, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Or maybe offering them $200 in free apps !
Tariq.H Oct 19, 2011 at 10:57 pm
loooooooool
sk8er_tor Oct 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Just call it QNX!
tekware Oct 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm
You know, that's exactly what I thought when they announced it - I thought it was called QNX?
blackmoe Oct 19, 2011 at 11:54 pm
I think BBX is a stupid name anyway. Besides, why are they concentrating on fluff and buff like a name change instead of bringing something real to the table in terms of hardware and applications.
zoban Oct 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm
RIM-OS
lol..
Mike L. will be fine he got himself a RIM-Job..
adjdudley21 Oct 19, 2011 at 10:20 pm
im pretty sure they new this was coming.. and im pretty sure they have a plan to deal with it... and itll probably end with RIM buying them too just like all other 15companies theyve bought this past year lol
Tariq.H Oct 19, 2011 at 10:59 pm
lol
TomCanuck Oct 19, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Ffs... Why am I not surprised? RIM always dissapoints after an uplifting and possitive announcement. .. BlackBerry World brought wonderous news... That ended in dissapointment because of false promises. DevCon brought great news for the most part, and now this. RIM just didn't waste 6 months of our time this time round. Got the dissapointment out ASAP, if only they could deliver Email on the PlayBook that fast... Idiots
TurboProp Oct 19, 2011 at 10:28 pm
I've been a BB user for 10+ years.... And I'm still not planning on switching. But I have to agree with this post, RIM does need to get their act together and deliver... or they will end up like Palm.... And nobody is going to be happy about that
Thecubicle Oct 19, 2011 at 10:33 pm
How about Black X? Or Qberry? Or QNB? Or just pay those guys to back off hahaha. Let's get this new train goin! RIMPIRE!
axllebeer Oct 19, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Hot-damn will this kind of stuff ever end for RIM?! I would hope that they had already checked on this and there is some "research in motion" about what they were planing on doing about it. haha Hopefully they will take care of this quickly and keep moving foreward...
Sent from my flippin' CrackBerry Style
Jonathank Aug 12, 2012 at 8:21 pm
MrKsBerry@Blogspot.com
How bout they pay the greedy people over there and use BBX
doubleaa25 Oct 19, 2011 at 10:52 pm
First, this is going to be exaggerated by all news peoples
Then i guess they are gonna take a long time to solve the issue, like Apple and Cisco.
Erievon Oct 19, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Why this "oh another disapointment for RIM" stuff. Seriously whats the big flippin deal? One of two things will happen, they will pay royalties in the name, or two GASP, they call it something else. Big woop. Whats in a name...i dont give a smurf what they call it.
BBPandy Oct 19, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Also:
BBX = BankAtlantic Bancorp, Inc. (NYSE)
They probably knew about this B4 they descided on the name. Most likely it will end up in a multi-year lawsuit that will be quietly settled.
feldmen01 Oct 20, 2011 at 10:32 am
It's only a legal issue if both companies wanting to use the same name are in a comparable industry with comparable products. A name on the stock market for a financial services holding company does not fit in that category, they would have no grounds to sue as it does not create confusion for consumers. People will know when they're using a BBX blackberry, not a financial service.
I can see why BASIS is suing though... users could get confused since they can both run on a blackberry environment.
KQ9 Oct 19, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Is it me or Basis is hinting at a collaboration and to integrate their service with Blackberry? lol
Tariq.H Oct 19, 2011 at 11:04 pm
i thought so too!
Lumute Oct 19, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Lol, what a joke!
How lucky those guys are, they got a lot more from DEVCON than a Playbook with a half backed 2.0 OS... lol... I guess that is why they are still naming it PlayBook OS... what a way to make money overnight...
CrackBerryTorch9800 Oct 19, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Buy the company. They're making apps for andriod and iphone, well buy them and charge double on those systems. If they are profitable and can help RIM's bottom line then i say do it. Cash is no good sitting around if it can be used properly to make more of it.
Tariq.H Oct 19, 2011 at 11:03 pm
take it easy guys, this stuff happens to everyone
ba_hamilton Oct 19, 2011 at 11:08 pm
The only people that are going to come out of this sunny side up are the lawyers. Two fairly large companies, companies with some cash in the bank. Lawyers haggle over this for months driving up legal costs. Just pay up now and cut out the middle man (lawyers).
WillieLee Oct 19, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Technically, they have BBx licensed along with BBj.
bladerunner6821 Oct 19, 2011 at 11:11 pm
i agree with previous posts. if the "Ironic" situation is something they can eventually work on together, (BASIS & RIM) i don't see why They can't just come to some sort of agreement/solution to where both parties are satisfied and this doesn't turn into yet another exaggerated media frenzy. RIMPIRE Strikes Back!
mssca Oct 19, 2011 at 11:23 pm
In near future when I write essays in first person, I may have to reference "I" with a superscript and reference that as; "I" is a registered trade mark of Apple Inc.
Oh boy... I sure don't want to be in school writing lab reports and essays in year 2020 for sure. Who knows, I may have to cite references for each and every single world! Can I make a copyright clam for "the", "a", "an" and so on?
The copyright act becoming a joke!
Ainen Oct 19, 2011 at 11:30 pm
There's nothing that stops multiple registrations of the same mark . In fact, this company isn't the owner of the only "BBX" trademark listed on the USPTO database. In fact, their registered word mark design is "BBx".
RIM I feel is designating this as a platform and not a product so I'd watch and see what happens.
CrackBerryHarry Oct 19, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Crush them like a bug, Mike! Learn to control the news cycle!
Abrante Oct 20, 2011 at 12:58 am
give them a few dollars and finalize the deal by sending them to the "thank you gift" section on AppWorld...
CDM76 Oct 20, 2011 at 1:52 am
Maybe RIM should just buy out Basis International ......
Superfly_FR Oct 20, 2011 at 2:49 am
While I know almost every word or acronym is probably somewhere patented, I can't believe they didn't even looked @ the domains names. I know a barter service that is probably not going to sue RIM ... and would better consider a huge enhancement of its bandwidth !
Blackberry_boffin Oct 20, 2011 at 8:09 am
It will be sorted.
jstirtzinger Oct 20, 2011 at 9:22 am
People relax...I am someone who has experience with trademarks and OF COURSE RIM completed a search of existing marks....a law clerk in first year would do that for crying out loud.
You then make an informed decision if you find something similar as to whether you proceed or not...
1. Is the mark in the same industry
2. Is the mark similar in appearance
3. Has the mark been used commercially
4. In which countries is the mark registered.
RIM obviously decided it was worth it to them to proceed.
nmlynx Oct 20, 2011 at 12:25 pm
It looks like BASIS would be able to prove those 4 items:
http://www.trademarkia.com/bbx-78639049.html
Jimberry Storm Oct 20, 2011 at 11:03 am
Maybe the lowercase (x) will be the deal braeker. BBx vs BBX
olivercub Oct 20, 2011 at 2:43 pm
It is, the stylised way to write it, can be what is actually trademark.