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Posted by ibcop Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

The Play Book is decent, but was behind the power curve before it was launched.

I hope RIM is working on a new version if they want to compete.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

It's not just about stated specs. It's about how the OS uses those stated specs. I think PlayBook/QNX/BBX delivers more performance per given spec (processor ghz) compared to others. Wouldn't consider it behind the power curve.

 
 
Posted by ibcop Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

Talking about being behind the power curve - I should clarify, but I was meaning the cost of the PB versus other tablets already in the market as well as those pending release. $499 for the Playbook? Granted, the price has fluctuated to $299, but........

 
 
Posted by cherolis Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

At 499.00 it was right in line with all the premium tablets. The price was fine until Amazon came in and undercut everyone. Frankly I think they should've left the price up at 499.

Anyone think Apple is going to drop the price of the Ipad because of the Fire? Hardly. And the Playbook is superior to the Ipad 2 in pretty much every way but the app store.

 
 
Posted by ibcop Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

Compare the PB against the Nook specs.....better all the way around and at half the cost.

 
 
Posted by cherolis Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

no. Its not better all around. For one... it has no camera at all... and the playbook has two. We know he playbook has crazy battery life. We speculate on the Nook's. I'm looking for an HDMI out on the nook... looking.... looking...

again... lets see them side by side and do a speed test. Lets actually use them back to back.

Android is garbage compared to QNX. That is all that matters... and yes... that makes the price difference worth it.

 
 
Posted by middbrew Friday, Nov 04, 2011 193 days ago

I would say you are way off base with Nook being better all around. Android running on a 1.2ghz dual core isn't as responsive and QNX/BBX running on a 1.0ghz dual core. I would suggest you go play with a few different tabs and see for yourself. The Nook Color has really been a gem among the low end Droid tabs once it is rooted to make it a full blown tab, but it is still on the low end and will be even with this upgrade in specs.

 
 
Posted by TRL175 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 190 days ago

Playbook superior to the iPad2??? Are you serious?? Just look at the sales numbers...enough said.

 
 
Posted by TRL175 Monday, Nov 07, 2011 190 days ago

Playbook superior to the iPad2??? Are you serious?? Just look at the sales numbers...enough said.

 
 
Posted by TongueDar Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

iBcop, you should speak form experience and not assumptions.

My PlayBook is my most powerful tablet, over my stupid-iPad, awesome Asus Transfomer, and Nook Color.

It's the only one that can actually do 1080p video like butter and of course capture it. Handles all Flash video like it's nothing. The iPad doesn't do squat in this area, as Apple sucks, and my Transformer can't handle more than a 720p feed.

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

Tablet space is getting sooo messy. I want RIM to KILL IT with BBX PHONES in 2012... then worry about killing tablets again in 2013.

 
 
Posted by howarmat Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

THIS! 1000x over please. come back to tablets when they actually have something worth it to compete with IMO. I am dying for my BBX powered all touch phone!

 
 
Posted by walnuts1024 Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

I agree. I am eligible for an upgrade in Q2 2012. I want a BBX phone!

 
 
Posted by anastasiophan Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

I've said it a few times and I stand by it, the PlayBook is a beta hardware for the new OS. RIM was able to have the largest paid beta any phone company has ever had while developing a new OS. It's actually pretty brilliant.

I know they wanted the PB to be bigger, but I think they always new DIY was just a testing ground for QNX before they put it on phones.

 
 
Posted by BaconMunch Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

Equal specs means comparable costs.
Who at RIM determined that the PlayBook should be MSRP'd inline with the iPad2 when the Nook Tablet can debut at $250?
It hurt reading the list of features on the Nook because the PlayBook still does not have that. I think BBX needs to hit big and it's going to need to make ALOT of friends in terms of 3rd party support.

 
 
Posted by cherolis Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

Amazon is giving their tablet away based on profit from ebook sales. That doesn't mean RIM can afford to give theirs away too.

I've read in several places that Amazon is actually taking a loss on their tablets.

 
 
Posted by rapsball4 Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

Definitely sounds like trouble for the PlayBook. What the Kindle Fire and its copiers have done is drive down the price. I'm not really sure how the PB is going to differentiate itself, especially before OS2/BBX.

 
 
Posted by kingbernie06511 Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

keep in mind that PB was announced a year ago. Now, not only is the PB software not up to snuff (yet) but you have to expect RIM to come up with new hardware 1y after initial anouncement.

if they feel the heat from other hardware makers, then considering their one and only tablet is the same for +1y, then its completely their fault. 1 tablet a year is not competitive.

heck HTC has been announcing a new dual core phone every week for a month or two lately.... they dont stand still...

 
 
Posted by jaymoet Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

I still can't believe i wasted $500 on the playbook....dumbest buy ever from me

 
 
Posted by cherolis Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

I am just not certain these tablets are going to take such a huge share of the market. Tablet people buy tablets... reader people buy readers... I don't think there is a huge segment of the market that is going to want one do-all machine... because regardless these will not be as good as the readers outside in the sun. So people will still want both. So why get a nook and a nook tablet both? Why get a kindle and a kindle fire?

 
 
Posted by ibcop Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

You don't. Get the Fire or the new Nook. You have it both ways - reader and tablet.

 
 
Posted by cherolis Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

it doesn't work like that. The screen is either good for reading... or good as a tablet. Its not both. It can't be both. There is a reason you can read Kindles outside but you can't read tablets well outside.

The kindle fire sucks for reading outside... and most people that buy readers want them to be able to display well in the sun.

 
 
Posted by middbrew Friday, Nov 04, 2011 193 days ago

I totally disagree with you. I have the Nook Color (rooted) and it works very well inside or out as a reader or a tab.

 
 
Posted by Yamcha Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

This is exactly what I was saying earlier, I think given the specs what Amazon has in store is going to compete with the Playbook & other 7" Tablets.. It may be lacking some features, but at this price point you can't really argue.. I'm expecting sales to be very high, based on what I've been hearing all around is that the main reason most people haven't jumped to a tablet is because of cost.. People without a doubt will choose a Kindle Fire Tablet over a Netbook.. which you can get as low as $199.. so I really think it'll get netbooks and other 7" tablets a run for their money..

 
 
Posted by El Platanero Friday, Nov 04, 2011 194 days ago

I disagree with everybody. The playbook has had no competitor. It hasn't been in danger of falling behind because it never pulled ahead. I mean I've seen some I phone commercials and they are starting to look good not because I phone is worth it but because my Bold 9930 even for how sexy it is it starts feeling dated very fast.

Trust that I'm not being a debbie downer. I'm just stating that RIM has not been doing anything to move ahead, or even to be credited with falling behind. I mean I am looking forward to my 2.0update but is it enough to draw a new croud? aor is it just enough to keep crackberriens like me around? If they don't do something to draw a profitable crowd then they will have to stay strong with theit overseas sales but if they don't step it up they will only be falling behind only themselves

 
 
Posted by westex74 Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

I question the term "competitor". I think I can honestly ask if RIM is truly "competing" in the tablet market. They are really just "participating" right now......

 
 
Posted by maddie1128 Thursday, Nov 03, 2011 194 days ago

Having the Nook Color now, I can only hope they find a way to make their tablet stay connected to wifi! I hardly use my Nook anymore due to the fact that whenever I try to buy and download a book, it takes forever and I have to hold it up at a certain angle and just pray that I don't lose signal before it is done. And my computer is right in front of me with a great signal. Had this back to the store 3x already. Ugh! I would never buy a tablet from them.

 
 
Posted by law2010 Friday, Nov 04, 2011 193 days ago

Wait, since when has RIM ever been competitive in the tablet business? FLOP.

 
 
Posted by gsansone Friday, Nov 04, 2011 193 days ago

You have to consider what you want to do with a tab. They're different animals. Actually, if you don't own a tab and want to access book, magazine, game, movie content, the Fire and Nook are great options. Most larger tabs are just really expensive web browsers, PB included. These smaller tabs offer content, meaningful content. Specs and speed are far less relevant.