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Alleged BlackBerry Z3 renders and specs surface!

BlackBerry Z3 Render
By Kevin Michaluk on 16 Feb 2014 05:43 pm EST
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BlackBerry CEO John Chen spoke during the company's last conference call about the low cost, built by Foxconn for emerging markets device, dubbed Jakarta.

Today, N4BB posted some alleged renders of the Jakarta, which they say could hit the market has the BlackBerry Z3. Following that, BBin posted some rumored specs for the device, as follows:

  • Display - 5"  display, 540 x 960 pixels, 24-bit color LCD display
  • Memory - 8 GB application storage and 1.5 GB RAM
  • Processor - 1.2 GHz dual-core processor
  • Battery - 2650 mAh non-removable battery
  • Rear-facing camera: 5 MP Autofocus and flash, 5x digital zoom
  • Front-facing camera: 1.1 MP Fixed-focus, 3x digital zoom

With a phone like this, what matters more than specs is the price you can buy it at outright. We've seen low-cost Android handsets and even Nokia Lumia devices pick up a decent chunk of market share at this end of the market. A Z3 at a $150 or even up to $200 price point could be pretty darn compelling, and a great deal given the rumored 5" display and BIG battery.

The chairman of Foxconn previously let it slip out that the device they're working with BlackBerry to build could be unveiled at Mobile World Congress, which is just over a week away. Given the closeness to the event, we may not have to wait too long to find out whether these rumors are true or not.

One thing that is certain is that I will be making the trip to Barcelona for MWC. If anything gets announced or released, I'll be on the ground to bring it back to you with a hands-on first look and plenty of details.

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Larger screens are appealing to a lot of users, even if they aren't the highest resolution.

When you look at developing economies in particular, many users may not even have a computer; their device may represent their primary connection to the Internet. Given that, the larger screen makes it easier to read and navigate around websites. Particularly websites that aren't available in a "mobile" form.

And even with this resolution, pictures and video would still look decent. If they can offer this phone at $199, and start to promote Android compatibility, we might have a winner here.

No it looks like a lenovo k900, which came before the lumina. This phone is going to be hot, and I'll surely buy it. However my only concern is devaluation of the brand. Creating cheap devices makes you look like a cheap brand, I think. Like h&m, or Timex. I'm not talking about personal preference either, I'm talking about what draws masses to brands like iPhone, Michael kors, and Ray Ban. This is a slippery slope that blackberry is on, hopefully john Chen doesn't go too far

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But blackberry did really well here in the UK with their cheap 8520, just about every kid had one - unfortunately those same kids have all gone over to iPhone now!

Posted via CB10

They're probably hoping to get that younger teen market back with very low cost devices. Specialty apps don't matter much to that market segment since they have less spending money to buy apps. BlackBerry can compete better with iPhone in that space since Apple entry price point is more demanding. This is where Android is beating Apple.

I'm with you on that. I think BB's space is in premium devices. Folks buying these very low cost phone probably won't buy many apps anyway, so they're not really helping build BB World. I suppose for those folks, an Android-type approach is needed - free apps with lotsa ads.

Seems odd that the resolution would be lower than the Z10/Z30. Maybe they just have a lower resolution screen in the test prototype.

I don't see why it would be worth fragmenting BlackBerry 10 with a third resolution unnecessarily. It would be worth it if they went with a higher resolution.

Posted via CB10

But that's just you - the whole point is that while keeping the cost down by halving both vertical and horizontal resolutions actually BB does NOT fragment anything as everything would be scaled right away.

They don't have a 1080p device to cut in half though. They also have 720x720, 720x1280, 768x1280 and now this new resolution and possible 1080p devices coming. Think of how many people would buy a Q10 if it had a standard resolution..

That matters far less to me than 1.5 GB RAM and 8 GB storage! However, we're looking at a very low cost device, under $200. They have to cut costs everywhere, even in the physical design and construction.

the 1.5G of RAM stood out to me also. especially since i thought they didnt bring bb10 to the PB since it needed at least 2G run properly

I'm afraid BB10 isn't still an OS for cheap smartphones. This one will buy nobody but some loyal BB Users. So, DOA unit. Looks not bad but it is a proof of wasting time and money, dear BlackBerry!

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If you didn't know, blackberry has 0 financial risk in this phone coming out. Foxconn is the one managing the inventory and financial stuff for this phone.

Don't fool yourself, BlackBerry is going to be at risk with this device.

Carrier's are only going to give BlackBerry so many chances. And IF BlackBerry wants this device to see any decent sales they are going to need to make an investment in marketing it to the markets it is designed for.

Posted via CB10

How is BBRY going to be at risk? Foxconn has a unique ability to sell sell and sell. You also realize this Z3 phone is going to be available in Emerging Markets such as Mexico, Indonesia, S.Africa etc. where BBRY has a strong presence.

Carriers are dying for new BBRY devices, because there is a demand for them in those countries. Foxconn's job is to somehow get people off BB7 and onto BB10, and this phone has the ingredients to do such a thing. This phone looks quite nice, and I am sure once it gains enough customers, Mr. Chen will re-think and have it available for the North American Market.

That is precisely it, nt300. This phone was designed to move folks off BB7. The Q5 and 'Z5' was supposed to do that, but they couldn't get costs under control.

It's most probably gonna be sold directly in BlackBerry stores and distributors since its unlocked for 150$

Posted via CB10

There's no risk when it comes to raw material and parts. BlackBerry doesn't have to source processors, batteries, screens, plastics for covers, etc. Foxconn is responsible for this. I'm pretty sure BlackBerry also worked out a deal to have Foxconn responsible for the distribution of the phones through the channel. The risks are minimal for BlackBerry. If a particular phone doesn't sell, they simply ask Foxconn to stop building it. Any unused parts are no longer BlackBerry's concern but Foxconn's. This is why you won't be seeing BlackBerry write down any more inventory.

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And Foxconn would never have signed such a deal if it though they would not sell. Foxconn knows this business, and with there help, BBRY has a real shot at gaining market share back. As soon as BBRY shows a profit, hopefully the shorts will go pick on another company.

0 financial risk?!!!! Sir, either you are incredibly incredibly smart, or totally clueless when it comes to finance. Would be very interested to hear how this is 0 financial risk...

There's only no direct financial risk but a lot of indirect onesa. Launching experimental BB10 units with BlackBerry logo should have ended with Z10/Q5. I like my Z10 but how it sells itself everybody knows. In this case BB10.0 and poor battery made a failure :|

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Poor battery life?

I own both the Z10 and the Q10 and they both do not have poor battery life. Yeah the Q10 exceeds the Z10 by a lot of hours, but come on. Poor is just stretching it.

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I think Z10 has a poor battery life as well. Especially coming from Blackberry. In my circle BlackBerry was know for battery life and they threw that away with the Z10. It is not worse than iPhone 5S, but is worse than S4 and Note 2.

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Hey, not fair. Compare the S4 and Note2 to the Z30 - not the Z10. Those larger phones have more space for a larger battery.

My Z10 I would say has mediocre battery life. Was going to upgrade to Z30 until I heard rumors of its inevitable successor around September or early next year. The octo-core one, but only if the battery is badass.

Posted via CB10

Following in those footsteps as well. Some days I get 3 hrs of battery life with my Z10 if I'm using my phone in the morning. Next phone I will make sure has battery, BlackBerry or not.

Posted by a leaky CB10.1

Folks think the Z10 has poorer battery life compared to their BB7 devices, which sometimes held their charge for nearly 3 days. However, the BB10 devices come with a much larger screen, much faster processors, and a much faster network (LTE). My Z lasts 12-14 hours, but if I give it a 30 minute boost during the day, I get another 6 hours out of it.
You just have to be a bit disciplined about it. Get a car adapter that outputs 1.8 or 2.1 Amps, and just give it a boost now and then when you're driving. You can do the same if you're at work - use your PlayBook charger rather than the one that comes with the phone.

"When you look at developing economies in particular, many users may not even have a computer; their device may represent their primary connection to the Internet"

First, This might have been true in 2007 (when BB was at the top) but it is mostly untrue in most places now in 2014 (like Indonesia where this is launching). Second, the competition is stiff, and $199 for a phone that has 540x960 is not cheap!!! Moto G is $179 USD with a 1280 x 720 HD, 329 ppi 4.5" display....

obvious reasons like security, no doubt, which is held in high esteem in US, Canada, Europe etc...but for a person in a developing economy, they couldn't care less about it. They just want a phone that has a nice big screen so they can watch a movie on it in High Def, and a phone that can download cheap/free games to play, and have facebook etc.

This is not YOUR reason or MY for liking a smartphone, but just because they think different doesn't mean they are "obviously" wrong. Your comment is silly, very much like BB's insistence that they are right and customers are wrong!

There are many reasons other than security to buy BB. At the end of the day, a smart phone is a communication device and nobody does it better than BB. End of story.

Posted via CB10

"nobody does it better than BB"

Dude, SERIOUSLY HOW can you ignore the income statement, the inventory, the market sentiment, the stock, the media, and previous fans of BB to say that???!!

Wrong, the last thing people cannot afford is a security breech of there information. Security is key in Emerging Markets. Then add a robust experience with a new OS, and you have a winner IMO.
And yes the Obvious Reasons is !) Security 2) New OS.

Haha, sorry man, but I love bb and im just so frustrated at their strategy sometimes...

My wife and i both own bb, i have a playbook, and i used to have bb stock as well....BB has so much potential, just not enough reality knocks on the head

Anyone that's used the 5.5 inch Galaxy Note 2 would know that 720p is just fine at that screen size. Don't believe the hype bro, 1080p is just a battery drainer. Don't get me wrong, looks great but a real battery drainer.

Absolutely right. How is this going to rock with a 2600+mAh battery? Lower res, low GHz processor?

Might even beat the Z30 in battery life. Real life experience will tell soon enough.

iPhone for me? Scr... ahem Q that! (posted from the latter)

The fixed-focus front facing camera can go to hell. I CAN'T BELIEVE they're still cutting corners like that. Unbelievable.

Cutting corners on a budget phone, who would have thought it. your right, for$200 you should get all the bells and whistles

Posted via CB10

at that battery capacity, and the alleged resolution, this has the potential to have incredible battery life. :)

Ideal phone for developing nations, where you might be away from the chargers for a while.

Even here in Tropical North Queensland we can have frequent outages during the monsoon season, and this is Australia.

iPhone for me? Scr... ahem Q that! (posted from the latter)

Pretty much all screens drain the battery. LCDs are usually more energy efficient with bright content, while OLEDs are more efficient on dark content.

Posted via CB10

No reason for most people to look at this device. For all intents and purposes it's being made as a BlackBerry 10 alternative for third world, we'll call them 'developing' nations. This device will never see the light of day in North America or Europe.

not sure some developing countries would even care to look at this model. countries such as China and Brazil are considered 'developing' nations BUT with market shares biggest than almost all other countries in the world in the top end phones. This cheap Z3 has much more potential in bankrupt Europe than in some 'developing' countries.

@FelipeO get your facts straight rapaz. Brasil is ranked as #6 largest economy in the world.

Stop being ignorant or find some toilet paper to wipe your mouth!!

Posted via CB10

I've been to Africa and Brazil and I can tell you that even the poorest in Brazil has a better life than 99% of all Africans. The guy wrote some nonsense but still there you got it all wrong attacking him with the wrong argument. Now days hundreds of thousands of Europeans are trying to move to Brazil and I've some friends doing great down in SA.

Based on GDP human development Índices transportation infrastructure.......call me a ass if you want but the days when North América was the center of the world are over.

China has possible the lowest human development index of any country in this world & what ever other world's you star trek eternal virgins might live on.

Deal with it.......no where in any economy has a single country grown so rapidly & Brasil is a developed country

The majority of u the US States, with note to Arkansas & Alabama, make Haiti look like Monaco

Read something else before you open your mouth or your ass will be jealous of the amount or merda that come out of it

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Quit using google translator you can't read what people are writing and wtf is Índices?!!! also stop making a fool out of yourself. Favela da Rocinha is completely different from Copacabana. Sao Paulo's zona sul (Itaim bibi, Morumbi, etc) is completely different from Franco da Rocha or Perus. Developing means there are major income gaps and in fewer countries in the world that is more clear than in Brazil. Reais 724,00 minimum wage is less than the Obamaphone people are getting on calls subsidies.

LMAO, give it a rest, don't ever tell a brazilian that Brazil isn't the best country in the world, they will never get it...

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I just want to point out that by that logic, the USA is a developing country. As are a few other first-world countries.

Mmm...CB10! Just the tip though...

dude wtf are you talking about?! Find someone who can understand proper English and ask him to translate what I wrote. Google translator clearly didn't work!

Because its the most popular country in the world... doesn't mean they are right

Just like some people think Samsung owns Android...

Posted via CB10

U call China the 2nd largest economy in d world developing? Pls give me ur dealer's number, he sells good dope!

Posted via CB10

I think it is meant to be a very cheap device...

We don't really use videoconferencing in South Africa unless you have fast ADSL...in which case you can afford a better phone.

The rumoured specs are fine...people are whining that a

They are stabbing themselves again. Releasing a subpar phone. They didn't learn anything yet. Why get that, when u could get an old iphone with better specs.

Posted via CB10

This is not a high end phone. This phone is meant to be the lowest cost BlackBerry 10 device that could possibly be produced.

Its not meant to be a high end phone, and it's not trying to attract a customer who wants an iPhone..

Posted via the CB10

I'll pass and will let someone else have mine. I'm rocking the Z30 so this new phone does nothing for me.

Cheers. :)

Posted via CB10

According to the stats, BlackBerry owns almost no market share in North America. Would that make us an "emerging market", as in "emerging in market share"? :)

Is this phone better than the z30 I currently own?

Yes it's a BlackBerry. If you have something bad to say... speak to Easton!

Good enough to get them off the landfill Android devices to do BBM, and get the real deal instead.

I wouldn't hesitate sending one to my mum if she asked me for a cheap, secure smartphone.

iPhone for me? Scr... ahem Q that! (posted from the latter)

No, this is NOT a sweet deal....BB underestimates competition again for the millionth time since 2007, When will they learn????!!! Moto G: similar specs but with 4.5 inch 1280 x 720 HD display. Another DOA...

Internet, sir! google play store has them (currently sold out inventory)

Even if BB sells these for $199 its still DOA. the MotoG is $179...

Moto G here in Australia $249, and if you want 16GB, it's $295.

Maybe you get an online price of around $230 for the 8GB model, but add postage and, well, you're there. $250.

The Aussie dollar, not too long in the past was on par with the USD, or even higher.

Moto G is dual-sim, but only 1GB RAM

iPhone for me? Scr... ahem Q that! (posted from the latter)

Thanks for your reply @Prem WatsApp. 250 AUD (including shipping) is apparently about 226USD, which is not too expensive but more than $199 that I *hope* Blackberry prices the Z3 as!

Specwise though, its the same as the Z3 (1.2 Ghz, 8 GB, with 5 mp camera). But the display seems so horrendous :(

IF BB prices it at $250+ US, I think John Chen hasn't learned his lesson yet!!!

Well they said it would be less than $200 US so it isn't quite in the same pricing range. Also, the screen is bigger; which is nice.

Mmm...CB10! Just the tip though...

Moto G is quad core, but as a guy who has a gazillion browser tabs open, I'd go with MOAR RAM any day over core count.

iPhone for me? Scr... ahem Q that! (posted from the latter)

Just like the Z30. Just wait till the real thing is available before saying whether the screen resolution is sufficient. Also, if this can be sold for 200 or less USD. I don't see any issues.

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I'm liking it, priced right with that screen size and large battery it should do well in its intended markets.

Posted via CB10

I think devices like these can definitely help BlackBerry in emerging markets. Also it can encourage BlackBerry 7 OS users to upgrade without *much* of the cost and feel the new BlackBerry 10 OS. Altogether it can not only help penetrate the market but also to gain new BlackBerry 10 users.

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This is a Excellent strategy because this allows children struggling college students or just users that won't go drop 700 to get a phone at an awesome price. Just because a lot of us including my self own higher end BB10 devices doesn't mean everybody can.

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They will sell a boat load of these with zero risk to BlackBerry's bottom line. Very smart move. I would buy one just for fun at that price!

Game on I say. Two can play this game. Love it! Go gettem BlackBerry!

Posted with my gorgeous Z30

Looks like something's hidden on the screen. Look closely at the bottom. It's like there's the browser screen covering what's beneath

Posted via CB10

It's a bbm video chat that's underneath the browser, i think this is very similar to what the end product will be!

Posted via CB10 on my  Q10

Not really.

1280 -:- 720 = 1.777777...
960 -:- 540 = 1.777777...

Same ratio. It's just like it will likely show things pixelatex or not smooth when rendering / downscalin the resolution.

iPhone for me? Scr... ahem Q that! (posted from the latter)

I seem to recall BlackBerry telling developers that 720x1280 would be the standard.

Of the 4 BB10 phones they have put up for sale so far, only one is there...

Great comparison!

There also seems to be a high end samsung galaxy s4 with full hd and quad cpu.

Whats with that?

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Both iPhone and WP8 devices (except 1520 a month ago) have flagships that are dual core and 720p screens. Only Android needs those cores and that spec war, not when the OS is optimised for the specs and the extra cores won't do anything to add to it. Though the rumored 64-bit BB10 flagship means that wish is coming true.

The S4 Mini has a 4.3 inch display, so it works for its size. That resolution will look like shit on a 5 inch display.

*keels over in laughter*

Yet another underpowered BB phone out of the box. What's with the dumb name too? Sorry, but a Jakarta will not get you laid. Rename this brick "Cock Blocker" instead because it will leave you a virgin and without a pussy to penetrate.

BB fanboys, I introduce you your next bust! Your next phone to laugh at! Your next phone to find the bargain bin at Wal-Mart....the mutherfucken JAKRAPA!!!"

*pulls out Note 3 and continues to punish pussy*

4 times the price for less than four times the specs? Yeah...those pussies must be REALLY Impressed with your economic justification.

You're an idiot...please die in a ditch, covered in petrol, on fire; today.

Mmm...CB10! Just the tip though...

The language and mentality of the troll is an a front to the rest of us. Please delete post and ban.

Tapped and flicked from my BlackBerry Z30!

LMFAO...judging by his comments, he is some twenty something high school dropout that has yet to experience the touch of a female. No shock he is a Hemmadroid fanboy...probably the biggest morons right behind Apple fanboys.

Posted via CB10

Look at these nerds calling on moderators. Do you guys also call the cops when another dude is nailing your girlfriend?

"Officer, his big dick is destroying my wife!"

Be men and get a man phone for fuck sakes.

Why would anyone call the cops if someone was nailing their chick? Seriously, that has to be the dumbest analogy ever. The stupidity from hemmadroid fanboys seems to know no boundaries.

Posted via CB10

If you research you would know that Jakarta is a town (if I'm not mistaken) in Indonesia. I believe that's where they will sell most of these units.

Posted via CB10

Look at this pathetic clown. Something tells me that if you are trolling CB with your cheap laggy GNOTE 3, you are still a virgin brah. Stay pathetic loser.

Ps. The internal name is Jakarta you imbecile. The external name is rumored to be the Z3... and it is a cheap entry level device for emerging markets. You are pretty badass comparing the GNote3 specs to this sub $200 device.. like comparing a Ford Taurus to a Ford Fiesta.

Posted via CB10

I just went from a Note 3 to a Q10 and I couldn't be happier. Lol that giant behemoth was too much to deal with.

Sorry, dude... But that giant (GIANT) phone really makes it seem like you're over compensating for some... Smaller things...

And by the way - who equates 'getting pussy' to what type of phone one has?

Fucking sad idiot. Lol.

Sent from the Cadillac of smartphones: my BlackBerry Q10.

+1 I was going to say he must by using his Giant note 3 to make up for some smaller things he might have lol

Posted via CB10

LMFAO...I'm sure. No wonder why he keeps talking about getting chicks,etc. Every woman I've ever dated has never once said "Ohh, you don't use a phone like the GNote so you must suck". LMFAO.... he is the type of clown that probably drives a jacked up car too "because chick's dig it". SMDH

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220ppi, really? Such a small resolution for such a big screen, I'm calling fake. Also, look at the "render's" screen.

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Only issue is that it must be priced appropriately.

It's sorta like a Z30 for the emerging market, that seems pretty sweet to me.

Posted via CB10

We need a bb10 like bb torch "slide , keyboard , touch "!!! That's will be great

Posted via CB10

I agree somewhat, but since getting my z30, I don't miss my old Torch at all! Seriously, I thought I would miss having the ability to choose between the two inputs, but not at all.

Tapped and flicked from my BlackBerry Z30!

I think the phone looks great! Not cheap looking at all! Well designed edgy and modern.

Iphone displays have small resolutions didnt stop them from looking good.

This phone is gonna be a success.

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IPhone has a 4" screen and higher resolution. 5" at that resolution that Kevin mentions makes no sense, the screen would look horrible.

Im talking about the older models like the iphone 4.

Either way this phone is to complete with the lumia 520s and low-end androids in markets where BlackBerry is still relevant and not bashed by the media daily.

And the phone looks great! I hope the chassis designs of the next BlackBerry 10 phones continue looking like this!

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Large screen and battery is great. Now slap those with 13mp camera, 4gb ram, quad-core and all for a mid range device.

This device "Z3" would be appealing if the price is right. Hehehe

Sent from the best touch keyboard, the Z.

Yup and a premium device powered by Octacore and 6GB RAM and 128GB, Gorilla Glass 4. 999 $

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I have an issue if it really is 5 inches, dumb people only look at screen size and bigger must be better, this would take away from the Z30 as a premium product

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Not liking another screen res in the mix. Q10/5 are already having fragmentation issues. At least it is 16x9 so will just be a degraded experience and still have proper res. They need to ditch the Q series 1x1 asap.

Posted via CB10

At a $200 price point this should be a winner, devices of this caliber are hard to find at that price! Nice battery as well. I hope they don't price this over $199.99

Posted via CB10

If this is the actual specs then I suspect that the back will be removable to like the Z30 with an expandable memory slot .

I do think the shape will be more like the Z10.

The emerging markets will enjoy this device.

What I'm looking forward to is the next device for the rest of the world.

Good for BlackBerry

Posted via CB10

"Rest of the world"? This IS that device...majority of people DON'T have expensive phones.

Though I'm looking forward to the next flagship. :)

Mmm...CB10! Just the tip though...

It needs to come to boost mobile. Touch upon the US demographic that can't afford a contract. My gf just bought a Moto G, and I believe a phone like this can compete with the low cost US android line.

Posted via CB10

Big screen phone is now a trend. Good job Chen to accommodate it. 5" for only $150 it will sell like hell in BlackBerry nation like Indonesia. Who care about resolution :). People only care price and screen size.

Posted via CB10

MOST of you missing the point. This device just to flood the market and to stay relevant in the space. Atleast this will keep the brand live. It is all about what Nokia did, it is cheap marketing, market share, more phones, more apps, at some point it will get BlackBerry return

Posted via CB10

Honestly I don't feel that the low end is where BlackBerry should be competing. Focus on the high end now, get it into the board rooms and governments and then maybe do something like this.

Give us a 4.7 inch 1080p beast of a phone with all the bells and whistles. Wireless charging, etc.

BlackBerry thrived on the low end with the 8520 and similar.

BlackBerry should have devices in all tiers. This is a smart move.

Mmm...CB10! Just the tip though...

I don't know why people aren't crazy about this.. the specs (besides the screen) are almost equivalent to a Z10.. for 1/10 the price. Pretty good pricing and spec in my opinion. Can't wait to see the new Q

Posted via CB10

Actually doesn't look that bad, ..... actually looks better than my Z10...... can't judge though, better see it in person, however what really interests me us that octa core thing they want to launch later on....

Posted via CB10

The price could be a sell out, if you can keep it below usd 200, still i dont see it will compete well with similar low end samsung with 8mp camera, hdmi ready, 2 sim card slot, and internal memory of 16gb android friendly device at similar price, actually i traded in my z10 exactly for those reason

Do you also hate puppies, bunnies and Aston Martin? Are you Ginger? You, sir, have no soul.

Mmm...CB10! Just the tip though...

I was really looking forward to this phone but now I don't know. I wanted a 4.5" screen or lower, I think that's a more compelling size for people upgrading from an os7 device which is the people they're targeting I believe. Also at that size the resolution would be ok but at 5" a 540p screen is really bad for today standards. I'm calling it a fake though those renders look like fan concepts rather than real renders.

It's for emerging markets. People who don't want to spend more than 200 dollars off contract for their phones. If you wanted something to replace your iPhone a z10 or z30 would do the job.

What iphone? I already own a z10, I wanted a "z3" as a backup phone to buy outright but I wasn't expecting it to be a 5" phone.

Posted via CB10

I wish my Z10 had that:

1. Bigger screen
2. Bigger battery.

I'll keep my processor, ram, and storage though .

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