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Posted by Anonymous Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 1468 days ago

can you, or anyone else for that matter, elaborate on

"I was not able to connect my hands-free Bluetooth headset and operate both devices, which does defeat the object of not "talking and driving." "

Also, does my old Samsung phone had a rubber cover for it's charging port, and that came off in like a week. Does this unit's rubber plug seem like one that will rip off with the greatest of ease?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 1468 days ago

I did my job as editor and fixed up that sentence to clarify it's meaning. Basically, in the car you want to go handsfree (use a Bluetooth headset) for talking while driving. But while the Freedom Keychain was running maps, the author couldn't use his Bluetooth headset to talk and it would defeat the purpose of the mapping if you hold the phone to your ear to talk (since you now can't see the maps).

 
 
Posted by unclebanglin Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 1468 days ago

a) how often does one talk and map at the same time as driving...i think that is dangerous even WITH bluetooth headsets

b) couldn't you just pop on the speakerphone to see the screen?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 1468 days ago

i don't disagree with you there. that's why it rated so well i'd say. it's a limitation of the device, but not really a bad limitation in the sense that it's probably safer.

and true that on the speakerphone!

 
 
Posted by Anonymous Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 1468 days ago

I couldn't help but notice that the item tested by the author if this column did not look like the same product pictured at the top of the column. Why is that?

 
 
Posted by Kevin Michaluk Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 1468 days ago

Editor's Note: There are now two versions of the Freedom Keychain - the GPS Original , and the newer Freedom Keychain GPS 2000. In this review, Tom's images/opinions are of the Original GPS. However, stock photo and store linkage is to the newer GPS 2000 which is what we now carry in the ShopCrackBerry.com store (same price). The GPS 2000 is essentially the same - just slightly sleeker, different LED layout, and even better than the original which is already pretty darn good.

 
 
Posted by D_Dog Saturday, Feb 09, 2008 1465 days ago

Did you leave the keychain/puck hanging from your ignition and still get a good satelitte signal? Did it improve when the puck was up on the dash?

 
 
Posted by AJ Tissier Saturday, Feb 09, 2008 1465 days ago

Does anyone have a clue as to how much battery life the keychain GPS gets? I would think that would be a very important part of any review of a gadget... just saying

 
 
Posted by dustinbeeler@yahoo.com Saturday, May 31, 2008 1352 days ago

the gps keychain thingy gets about 10 hours of life per charge, =)

 
 
Posted by Paul Bowles - technical Manager Freedom Input Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 1455 days ago

Glad you liked the GPS puck :) Only just seen this review so wanted to just answer a couple of the questions that have come up. Hope you guys a crackberry.com don't mind the long comment and I will try not to give to biased an answer :).

The GPS unit shown in the review is our original unit. As Kevin has said the new unit (pictured at the top of the page) is our new unit (the Keychain GPS 2000).

The Original Keychain GPS uses SiRF StarIII and the GPS 2000 uses MTK. In terms of performance the GPS 2000 has a slightly quicker coldstart time and in some cases can track low signal satellites better then the original. In practical terms if you put the two side by side they are going to give you the same co0ordinates and tracking accuracy.

The biggest difference is in the looks. The GPS 2000 is slightly smaller and has separate LEDS which can make it easier to see what it is doing (especially for people that are colour blind or partially sighted).

In my personal opinion I think the GPS 2000 looks a lot "sexier" (the LEDs are hidden until you turn it on and then they shine through the case and show the appropriate symbols which I think is very cool).

Lights off:
http://freedominput.com/site/images/stories/gps200/black%20sample%20%28a...

Lights on:
http://freedominput.com/site/images/stories/gps200/black%20sample%20%28a...

With regards to the questions:

Using the GPS unit with handsfree kit:
Depending on the devices (handfree kit and GPS unit) and the phone it can be possible to use both at the same time. In theory the majority of phones currently on the market can only have 1 active bluetooth connection at a time so you can not use a GPS unit and handsfree kit.

In practice you will find that some combinations of phones/handsfree kits/GPS units will allow both devices to connect at the same time. It's a bit hit and miss though and there is no way to know if a particular combination will work or not.

With regards to the battery life:
Both units have an operating time of 9-10 hours which is extended much longer when on standby.

Using from the keychain:
99% of the time yes you can just use it from the keychain and it will work perfectly. If you are in a very (very, very) low GPS signal area you may have to start the GPs unit up outside the car for the coldstart (first 30seconds-1minute) while it gets the initial satellite lock then once it has a lock you can use it in the car.

The reason for this is that all GPS units require a reasonable signal strength to complete the coldstart process (during which time it downloads data from the GPS satellites on what satellites are in view and their locations). Once it has done this our GPS units can then use the weakest of GPS signals to get your location.

I have used mine from the ignition of my car load of times (and from the bottom of a backpack while on a bike or walking). One customer actually dropped his under his seat in the car and it still tracked him for his whole trip :)

 
 
Posted by laserlike Tuesday, Feb 26, 2008 1448 days ago

This unit works well in just about all conditions and will connect with Google Maps even in your pocket. Though it has has trouble in the past connecting with Blackberry Maps, its ability to pinpoint your location on the move coupled with the powerful search engine with Google Maps makes it a must have. Using the unit will gain you the ability to further pinpoint your position, not precise but alot better than without, while giving you a strong ability to use it on the go.

I have a 8300 Curve and bought it because I didnt want to pay for the 8310 costs of having turn by turn. Ive had mine for the past month or so and really find it useful. I stay in Atlanta so being as close as possible is a must and this GPS, is nothin but that. 5 stars across the board.

 
 
Posted by Georgia-Law.com Wednesday, Jul 02, 2008 1321 days ago

Excellent option for the BlackBerry 8320. Size, connection and price are great. Highly recommended!

 
 
Posted by brian solliday Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 1299 days ago

thanks for the review it was great and it sold me on this product one question can i set it up so my family or friends can go to a website and see where i am at. no my wife does not have me on a short leash i am a cop and it would give my family peace of mind i think.

 
 
Posted by bnasso Saturday, Aug 16, 2008 1275 days ago

It would give any enemies an easy target.

I don't think I'd broadcast my exact position, especially if I were a cop.

 
 
Posted by Recent Owner Monday, Nov 24, 2008 1176 days ago

I have recently purchased the Freedom Keychain GPS 2000 within the last month. I am extremely happy with it. I use it with google maps and it works great. It pin points the position more accurately than with out. The unit I received is slightly different than the one picture. The on /off switch is on the side, and the charger port is on same side. As for the LED lights, they are small and I don't notice them being to bright,even at night. I believe the makers have listened to other owners and have made improvements. I would recommend this product to anyone that is looking for this type of product.
Overall it is small, easy to use, connects to a variety of mapping programs and for a fair price. The only downfall I see is that I wasn't able to operate a Bluetooth headset and Freedom Keychain at the same time. I can live with that.

 
 
Posted by hangmanjo Sunday, Nov 30, 2008 1170 days ago

Can I get my exact or almost exact latitude and longitude with the freedom keychain? Sorry if that's a stupid question but I'm new at this.

 
 
Posted by don4est Sunday, Jan 04, 2009 1134 days ago

I'm just reading the comments and questions, and being new at all this, I'm wondering if there are fees at all with this. Is it a free service once you hook up with the key chain?

 
 
Posted by N Texas Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 1065 days ago

Does this mean if you misplace your keys you can get on a computer and locate them now?

 
 
Posted by oldbaldguy Monday, Apr 27, 2009 1022 days ago

Maybe....
IF your keys are within 10 meters of your phone - AND the GPS puck is "On" - AND you are tracking "real-time" through a service such as GPSed, then MAYBE you could get a fix within 3 meters (best GPS) and see the location on a computer - better to keep them in your pocket..... (:-)

 
 
Posted by chopchip79 Friday, Apr 10, 2009 1039 days ago

do you have to pay for internet service or gps service on your phone or does this do it all for you?

 
 
Posted by oldbaldguy Monday, Apr 27, 2009 1022 days ago

Standard data rates apply for downloading the data to display on the screen. So the answer is yes to internet service.

 
 
Posted by sweetharte82 Tuesday, Sep 01, 2009 894 days ago

so does it offer turn by turn out loud? or does it just sync with the browser? i want the turn by turn so i dont have to keep looking at my phone. otherwise ill just get a regular talking gps. i would get the verizon navigator but its to expensive monthly.

 
 
Posted by leftie12 Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 711 days ago

I believe that the cop could sign up for Google Latitude and invite friends to see where he is. This should solve the problem of people that he doesn't want to see where he is seeing where he is.

 
 
Posted by leftie12 Wednesday, Mar 03, 2010 711 days ago

There would be no reason why you couldn't use a wired headset while using the GPS unit would there?

Is there any more discussion about using this with certain software? I would be curious as to how people get along with various apps. I have a BB 8330m.

Thanks!